Thinking to Believe

January 12, 2017

10 Responses to “Danzil Monk on the Kim Burrell controversy”

1. stanrock Says:

   
   January 13, 2017 at 9:27 am

   If people would pay to groan at ludicrous things, I would sell tickets to that article.

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2. LeoTheGreater Says:

   
   January 13, 2017 at 10:37 am

   T.R.

   Now while most Christians only refer to homosexual men they never touch on the homosexual women. I can only guess why. Maybe you can explain it.

   You said: “Check out my friend Danzil Monk’s post regarding the Kim Burrell controversy.”

   I suppose if you are personal friends and if you were to meet each other at some point in time, you’d probably shake hands; you may even embrace one another; he is presumably a male and you might even say he was your “boy” friend. In latin you might even refer to him by the genus homo, in which case he would be your homo-friend. While there is nothing intrinsically wrong with having or being a homo-friend, I am sure neither of you would prefer to use the terms, homo-friend or boy-friend when talking about each other. And the reason why is because others might infer that you were gay by association of those terms.

   Despite there being no bedroom intimacy implied you would stay away from describing one another using those choice words. And just to take it a step further and you were paying a visit and; say, playing a video game or searching biblical scriptures on your boy friend’s computer that happened to be in his or in your bedroom and a call came in on your cell phone to enquire your whereabouts you would, presumably, not say: “I am with my boyfriend Dan, in his bedroom, we’re playing games and checking out Bible verses for my new hit Theosophical sensation “Out of Context” series.

   Relationships and interactions between men and men and women and women happens all the time and there’s no problem with that; fathers and son, uncles and nephews—–EXCEPT —-when you introduce that little, 3 letter, naughty word, “s-e-x” into the picture.

   Dan Monk’s letter is typical of Christians everywhere when it comes to “sin”. I have said many times, it is true, and I am unanimous in this: sin is in the eye of the beholder, like beauty and art, like ugly and sin. Why is that? Well because the Ancestors were obsessed with sex then, and Christians, Judaists and Muslims and nearly all religious votarists are obsessed with sex today.

   And of course the Ancient Ancestors did not want to come across as self righteous prudes so they created a bunch of caricature concepts called the “Gods” so they could use “God” as a Scapegoat-in-Chief for anything and everything they wanted to say, do and control others by, backed up by their invented Supporter who is after all, the end-all and be-all for everything they ever did, said, thought, or were. And that tradition has carried forth to this present day as Dan Monk clearly points out.

   And of course, the bible and other so called Holy Books being attributed to the Authorship of the Scapegoat Gods were penned by the men upon whom Messianic Virtues were bestowed by their Omnipotent Caricature. Eventually the Myth Gods were whittled down to One God, after centuries of upholding righteousness through Venerable Oracles, it fell to the Prophets to pass on their God Given wisdom to the masses and today the Oracles of old have been replaced the priests, preachers and popes of new, through whom quoted ancient reverent texts by the authors of the righteousness as perceived through their righteous eyes are regurgitated with the blessings that they presume to come from their own creations; but alas, like glass figurines they shatter into pieces when they fall on the ground of reason.

   Religion is more than just a belief, religion wants to impose a universal morality which is why it has always attracted the kind of person who thinks other people’s private lives are their business. And giving respect to this mentality is exactly what’s got us into the mess that we’re in.

   They vow celibacy and would force the world to practice their suffering with them. A gaggle of prudes trying to control everything; they dictate from the pulpit, operating in the recesses of darkness without the light of understanding. And so the leaning on the Holy Books to further dogmatic agendas that has not worked for ten thousand centuries are still well maintained yet the votary is loathe to give up their impotent doctrines handed down by impotent caricature concepts, created by impotent ancients but who still believe they are doing a wonderful service expressing their righteous indignation at lifestyles the books of Ancients say are an abomination.

   (John 8:4,5) This similar case was presented in this way by sinners (the religious righteous), who denounced the sins of others and were adept at hiding their own shortcomings. The frightened crowd parted, making way for their church elders. Some fled out of fear, because the Lord had been speaking of life and happiness, whereas these loud-mouths were clamoring for death by stoning because of the impeachable sin of sex that was contrary to the Ancient Law of Moses.

   All of those present expected that one of two things would happen: either the Lord in His mercy, would release the sinful woman and thereby violate the law; of He would uphold the law, saying, “Do as it is written in the law,” and thereby break His own commandment of mercy and loving-kindness.

   But it was there, before the Temple of Solomon, where the tablets of the commandments had been kept in the Ark of the Covenant, before a great multitude of people, it was there that He, Christ, had to say something contrary to the law of Moses…..trying to wake up the minds of people sleepy by the impotent doctrinal nonsense of religion

   And why don’t you do likewise instead of always trying to disparage those whom the same God of evolution designed differently? It is the same God of Evolution that designed you that designed those you despise but the self righteous religious have behaved that way to the outsiders, the aliens, the infidels, the atheists.

   After all, if you were really enlightened by Jesus, you would know that all human design came from the God of Evolution as Jesus himself well knew.

   And just so you know, some of us follow Jesus. But the religious; well, all religions derive from a person, so who do you think you really follow? And that’s rather comforting for us outcasts too, when you think about it.

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3. LeoTheGreater Says:

   
   January 13, 2017 at 10:41 am

   Natural design of human sexuality: will be called cheating by prudes, adultery by religion, prostitution/sexual assault by law enforcement. No matter what sexual activity humans participate in, someone, somewhere, sometime, someday will call it evil, offensive, criminal, lawless, wrong, bad, atrocious, awful, dreadful, terrible, horrible, deplorable, horrid, lousy, rotten, naughty, negative, abominable, unchristian, unmuslim, uncatholic, unjewish, irreligious, inhumane, disgusting, predatory, inappropriate, molestation and OMG! A money making wage earner for accusers, police proselytes, jailers, pimps and Bar Society Defenders; accolades for “peace” officers doing their civic duty as policy pawns for the self righteous Corporate Collective and Legislators; and, media reporters looking to sell their wares froth with sex headlines, stories, embellishments and fabrications. No one is exempt from the long tentacle fingers of Bingo the Money God, the Dictator of all events on planet earth that will starve you if you do not obey, empower you if you do and use minions and proxies to destroy your power if and when you rise in the ranks of the rich:

   The grace and curse of 666;

   It is your friend; it is your foe.
   And unpredictable as people go.
   To Get Her, together, The Girl,
   IT IS YOU SEE, THE WAY OF THE WORLD.

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4. LeoTheGreater Says:

   
   January 13, 2017 at 11:10 am

   From day one on this planet all one can hear throughout their life is the “sin” of sexual activity.

   People are either too young, too old, too horny, too debauched, too homosexual, too gay, too tall, too short, too influential, too christian, too worldly. too unmarried, too married, too much the role model, too much in a position of power, too everything to everybody, everywhere on earth.

   If there is one thing that religionists should do, it seems to me, it’s to keep their noses out of other people’s bedrooms and bathrooms and more to the point, out of people’s sexuality. It’s none of your business. Stop sniffing crotches.

   Sex is the single most driving force on the planet for men and mosquitoes alike but the trouble with control freaks, they imagine if “it” isn’t under THEIR control, it must be, OUT OF CONTROL!

   Police are worse than merely useless with respect to this as they entrap people by every deceit possible trying to entice their fellows to “SIN” as it were: dressing their women like whores to lure the man, arrest the man and then have a great laugh about how many they caught during the entrapment, guffawing over: “and did you see the look on his face”. That’s more disgusting than anyone desiring to have sex by following their human design. Police Sex Squads are like Chicken Farmers, who make the rules: control the cock by acting like pricks.

   We complain about polygamy but how many men and women have been married more than once and have girlfriends and boyfriends on the side and police are no exceptions; so there’s nothing wrong with having several wives or husbands as long as you don’t have them all at the same time? Right?

   If people had a hand cut off for their sexual activity outside the confessional, we would be a “handless” society

   Thanks Dan Monk….but leave the homosexual alone; he is as trapped in his sexuality as you and everyone else on the planet are trapped in theirs.

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5. LeoTheGreater Says:

   
   January 13, 2017 at 12:13 pm

   Stan Rock:

   I am wordy but

   I like your sweet, succinct style.

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6. Frank Adamick Says:

   
   January 26, 2017 at 9:20 am

   Messiah Himself has said, 17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
   18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
   19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
   20 “For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:17-20)
   12 “In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.
   13 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
   14 For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it. (Matthew 7:12-14)

   Romans 7
   7:1 Or do you not know, brethren (for I am speaking to those who know the law), that the law has jurisdiction over a person as long as he lives?
   2 For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband.
   3 So then, if while her husband is living she is joined to another man, she shall be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress though she is joined to another man.
   4 Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God.
   5 For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the Law, were at work in the members of our body to bear fruit for death.
   6 But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.
   7 What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, “YOU SHALL NOT COVET.”
   8 But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead.
   9 I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died;
   10 and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me;
   11 for sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me.
   12 So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.
   13 Therefore did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful.
   14 For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin.
   15 For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate.
   16 But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good.
   17 So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.
   18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not.
   19 For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want.
   20 But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.
   21 I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good.
   22 For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man,
   23 but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members.
   24 Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death?
   25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin.

   http://nasb.literalword.com/?q=Romans+7

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7. Frank Adamick Says:

   
   January 26, 2017 at 9:43 am

   The Berean: Romans 7:4

   (4) Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God.

   http://www.theberean.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Home.showBerean/BereanID/67/bblver/NKJV/Romans-7-4.htm

   From the above article by Earl L. Henn (1934-1997):

   The apostle Peter admits that many of the things that his fellow apostle Paul wrote are hard to understand, and because of this, he warns, some people distort Paul’s writings to their own destruction (II Peter 3:15-16). This is still happening today. People—some sincerely and some not—are constantly twisting what Paul said in an attempt to show that the law of God is abolished.

   A favorite target of the “no-law” advocates is Romans 7:4. In this scripture, Paul writes that a Christian is “dead to the law” and is now “married to another.” From these statements, some conclude that God no longer requires a Christian to obey His laws. Unfortunately, those who force such an interpretation on this verse fail to understand the profound truths that the apostle is explaining….

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8. Preacherteacher Says:

   
   February 2, 2017 at 4:24 pm

   Leo, it is sad that you feel the need to post so many words and say so little by way of fact, truth or even logic. Your dedication to evolution makes it clear to me that you are not really interested in truth or being accurate in your observation. if you are not willing to have an intelligent dialogue, why would you flood this thread with your rants. I know the tactic but I thought you should explain. It would also show some level of sincerity if you would make brief statements rather than magazine articles. Again, that is if you are interested in an intelligent dialogue. I would like to know what you base your world view on? If it is evolution, are you willing to defend it?

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9. LeoTheGreater Says:

   
   February 3, 2017 at 12:32 pm

   Preacherteacher, All things are evolution based, even your gods evolved from the sun, the trees, the cow, to the moon and planets and today we live with the planets whose names remain long after the God Myths of old died.

   None of the Gods, to men of less intelligence than imagination of old, existed, any more in mythology than they exist to you today.

   Jesus called the evolutionary principles, Father? That ultimate authority governing all life forms by the Life Forces of the Cosmos in man we call the brain.

   Reality is defensible the supernatural fantasy creatures of the ancients from Zeus to the offshoot next generation God that three quarters of the world’s believe in, the one I call the One Lump God because all the myth gods of everything imaginable were Lumped together into One Lump by Abraham.

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10. Preacherteacher Says:

    
    August 12, 2022 at 7:34 am

    Leo, you are ranting again. Please define “evolution” as you are using it here. just making claims over and over is not intelligent dialogue. are you capable of having a dialogue? Or are you content to just flood threads with your accumulated sound bites and feel smart and informed?

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