People act as if there is no connection between sex and babies, such that when they get pregnant they have the right to abort their baby because they didn’t want a baby. Amy Hall observed that this is like thinking there is no connection between food and calories. The fact of the matter is that if you eat too much, you’ll get fat. That’s the natural consequence of eating too much. You can’t choose to eat without also consenting to the calories. Likewise, each time we engage in sex, we consent to the possibility of creating a child because that is what the act is designed to do.
March 30, 2022
Sex creates babies
Posted by Theosophical Ruminator under Abortion, Apologetics, Bioethics[7] Comments
Thinking to Believe 
March 30, 2022 at 1:04 pm
putting aside the morality of pre marital sex —– there are very effective methods of birth control that prevent sperm meeting egg. so the real question is why arent people using these methods ? they arent complicated to use and it’s not a matter of ignorance these days so a logical conclusion is they dont see abortion as a big deal due to pro-choice propaganda.
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April 22, 2022 at 1:25 pm
“so the real question is why arent people using these methods ? they arent complicated to use and it’s not a matter of ignorance these days so a logical conclusion is they dont see abortion as a big deal due to pro-choice propaganda.”
On the contrary, in most places in the US the reason so many people don’t use contraception is largely because of Christian pressure not to teach sex education in schools. The most religious regions suffer elevated levels of teen pregnancy simply because kids are taught abstinence only instead of including proper birth control. This is also why religious communities have higher abortion rates. Secular communities have lower teen pregnancy and lower abortion rates, because informed kids make more informed decisions.
https://datadrivenviewpoints.com/2013/06/18/teen-pregnancy-and-the-bible-belt/
Furthermore, having the right to an abortion doesn’t make abortions more attractive. Nobody WANTS women to have abortions, but most want them to have the right to have one if they so choose. I worked briefly at a Planned Parenthood, and they were extremely proactive about birth control. Abortion was the method of last resort. Yet so many Christians demonize PP over abortions, ignoring the important work they do to provide women (and men) with birth control education and options, as well as other women’s health issues.
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April 22, 2022 at 1:37 pm
“Amy Hall observed that this is like thinking there is no connection between food and calories. The fact of the matter is that if you eat too much, you’ll get fat.”
Except that nobody uses religious dogma to force people to remain overweight. If a person wants to lose weight, that’s their choice, when and how they want.
It appears that most religious people don’t really think a fertilized egg is a baby. When asked a hypothetical scenario meant to test that claim, that reality becomes clear:
You are in a burning fertility clinic and only have time to save either an infant in a crib or a vat of 1,000 fertilized eggs, but not both. Which do you save?
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April 27, 2022 at 8:16 am
lol ….. the evidence shows young people understand where babies come from even if Christians are pressuring schools to not teach sex education. but im 62 and we were taught sex education in health class in the early teen yrs. it’s Christians — it’s nwo cre cre like you that have removed the sacred from the sexual act. the vast majority of Christians i know have no problem with teaching age appropriate children human reproduction they just dont want the down side ignored.
a big part of the problem is girls want to get pregnant today — the stigma of being an unwed mother “bastard child” has been replaced with praise.
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April 27, 2022 at 8:18 am
should be …….. “it’s NOT Christians”
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April 27, 2022 at 7:37 pm
Derekmathias,
Opposition to abortion is not based on religious presuppositions. That’s why atheists can be (and are) pro-life as well.
And you are missing the point about the food comparison. The point is that actions have known consequences. If you choose to do A, and you know that A leads to B, then you are tacitly consenting to B.
As for your hypothetical scenario, at best it would show that pro-life people are inconsistent. But even that’s not the case. If the scenario was save your own child or save your neighbor’s five children, pro-life people would choose their own child. The reason has to do with emotional attachment, not because they don’t think their neighbor’s kids are valuable human beings.
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April 29, 2022 at 11:45 am
derekmathias ……….. loves to make up silly 1 sided scenarios. you are correctly comparing apples to apples — as all 6 (your 1+ neighbors 5) are children.
the “vat of 1,000 fertilized eggs” are not even the same comparison as a fertilized egg in a womb.
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