Here’s my brief report on Tuesday’s election. I am limiting my comments to morals legislation.
Eight states had ballot initiatives pertaining to same-sex marriage: Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia and Wisconsin. All but Arizona approved them (making it the first time the people have ever voted the idea down). Each measure was a little different. Colorado, Idaho, South Dakota, Virginia, Wisconsin, and Arizona’s proposals outlawed domestic partnerships and same-sex marriage. South Carolina and Tennessee only outlawed same-sex marriage.
South Dakota had a ballot initiative that would have prohibited abortion except for in cases to preserve the mother’s life. It failed 56/44.
California and Oregon had initiatives that would require parental notification for an abortion. Both failed.
Missouri had an initiative that would legalize cloning for destructive embryonic research. It passed 51/49.
Our worldview prevailed on the same-sex union issue, but lost on the abortion issue and on the cloning issue (we lost on the cloning issue, not because people support cloning, but because the proponents of the bill deceptively passed it off as a cloning ban just like they did in CA). A couple of those losses could have been prevented, however. Take South Dakota’s abortion ban. Polls showed that approximately the same percentage of people who said no to the measure would have voted yes if an exception was made for cases of rape and incest. Or take Arizona’s same-sex marriage ban. Had the proposal been limited to banning same-sex marriage—and not included all forms of unions such as civil unions and domestic partnerships—it probably would have passed.
What should this tell us? For one, it should tell us that sometimes the best approach to getting legislation passed is the incremental approach. Poll after poll shows that more people oppose just same-sex marriage than do those who oppose same-sex marriage and civil unions/domestic partnerships. Poll after poll shows that more people oppose abortions except in cases of rape and incest than those who oppose abortion even in cases of rape and incest. While we may be persuaded that abortion in cases of rape and incest is just as evil as all other elective abortions, and while we may be persuaded that there is little difference between recognizing same-sex civil unions and recognizing same-sex marriage, it’s best to get a bill passed that prohibits some evil than it is to propose a bill prohibiting all evil and have it fail. In the former case no babies are saved, while in the latter case many will be.
This was the approach to slavery as well. In Englad, William Wilberforce fought for years, chipping away at the practice of slavery bit by bit until finally the whole edifice came down. While in several states the all-or-nothing approached worked, in Arizona and South Dakota it did not. Those states would have done well to tackle the issue slowly if polls showed people would not accept it in whole, than to shove a bite down the voters throat that was too much for them to chew at once.
For further reading on the wisdom of the incremental approach to morals legislation see http://prolifetraining.com/pro-life_blog/ and http://prolifetraining.com/pro-life_blog/
November 10, 2006 at 5:44 pm
You used the word “evil.” Are you saying that two people of the same sex who love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives in a monogomous relationship are evil?
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November 10, 2006 at 10:28 pm
If “evil” is too strong of a word for you, I am fine with substituting it with “immoral.”
And this label is an evaluation of their behavior, not of their character. I know several homosexuals, and most of them are really nice people. It’s similar to drunkards. The problem is not the character of the person. Many drunks are great people. The problem is with their behavior.
Yes, I do believe sexual acts between people of the same sex is immoral. The fact that they love one another and are committed to one another is irrelevant to the moral question.
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November 11, 2006 at 2:07 pm
I’m not going to respond to the comments posted about homosexuality. I just wanted to respond generally to the title of this post. More specifically, I want to comment on the elections and their outcome as it pertains to the Church. (I capitalize “Church” to emphasize that I’m referring to the body of Believers as a whole, and not just IPC, though IPC is most definitely included.)
I strongly believe that the reason the Democrats have taken over Congress, as well as the reason that the abortion-related measures on the ballots resulted in pro-choice victories, is due to the apathy of the Church.
Too many Christians fail to vote– the root problem being that too many Christians fail to recognize that they have a duty to vote, not just a civil duty, but a Christian duty.
Of the five students that attended my Collegiate Class Bible Study on Wednesday night, ZERO had voted! What would legislation look like today if all Christians voted?
The Church has a responsibility to impact our world. I’m not a fanatic, saying we need to protest at military funerals(I’m against all hate-based propoganda), or that we need to protest at all. I’m just asserting that we need to be aware of the legislation on our ballots, as well as the people running for Congress, etc., and we need to take the time to vote.
One young person at my church said he hadn’t even registered to vote because he doesn’t want jury duty. Can we be more shallow minded? People died so that we would have the right to vote. The laws that are passed will affect millions of people. There’s no point in being a Christian and living a holy life, if we have zero impact on the world around us.
Too many Christians feel that if we live by our list of “do nots,” then we can just sit around with our morality and wait for the rapture. Such mentality goes against the teachings of Christ to go into all the world, to be a light, and to be Christ’s ambassadors in this world.
I know I’m most likely preaching to the choir here, because anyone who reads this post is most likely interested in the moral degradation of American society and jurisprudence enough to vote. I just wanted to point out that the reason there is an inconsistency between the polls and the legislative outcomes, is because Christians think voting is unimportant, despite the fact that they are sickened by the ever-thinning moral fabric of our society. If Christians don’t vote, then they can’t complain!
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November 11, 2006 at 2:12 pm
Wow, who is that woman that responded? She must be the most intelligent woman on the earth!
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November 13, 2006 at 5:49 pm
Seni,
I am in total agreement with what you said (although I’m not sure I understand the military funeral remark). If even 1/2 the Christians who didn’t vote in this election had voted, I think the outcome would have been quite different for a number of these ballot initiatives. As I’ve said before and I’ll say 1000 times again, in this nation the government is not THEM, it’s US. We are the government, and yet we abdicate our responsibility (and privilege) to do our part in deciding the future course of our nation.
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November 14, 2006 at 11:40 am
There’s a radical religious group that is protesting at funerals of fallen American soldiers, with big signs that say “God Hates America” and similar rhetoric. They believe God hates America because we support homosexuality. They also believe it’s too late for Americans to repent. Their entire message is nothing but hate and condemnation.
There’s a counter group called the Freedom Riders who show up at military funerals to protect the families from these protests. They’re a bunch of bikers that come one their bikes. They form a barricade around the funeral site with huge American flags, blocking the protesters’ view of the family and vice versa.
In fact, we were the grateful beneficiaries of the Freedom Riders just recently. Andy’s cousin’s husband was killed in Iraq: Salem Bachar. He was 23 and just married to Andy’s cousin. We had the service up at the large chapel on Rose Hills. When we came out to walk to the graveside, there was this HUGE line of big biker dudes carrying HUGE American flags. They stood there reverently, some with tears in their eyes. The funeral procession walked behind the hearst to the graveside. So we literally walked along between the protective barriers formed by these large American flags. It was an amazing sight. I don’t know if protesters even tried to show up. We were deeply moved that strangers were there to support our family.
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November 16, 2006 at 12:37 am
That’s so sad that people would do that. But hooray for the Freedom Riders!
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