Most skeptics and all atheists think of religion as a human invention because (1) religions differ greatly from one another, and (2) religious views are often culture-specific. Let me address each in turn.
Religions differ from one another
It is reasoned that if God exists and is knowable by man, everyone should be in basic agreement about who he/she/it/they is/are. Instead, religious views are often very different: God is one, God is many; God is personal, God is impersonal; Jesus is God incarnate, Jesus is a heretic; the world exists, the world is an illusion. Skeptics conclude that either God is unknowable by man (in which case the whole question of religious truth is irrelevant), or more likely, God does not exist to begin with. Religion is just a human invention, and the variegated expressions of religion reflect the variegated creativity of man.
Both conclusions are flawed in that they confuse epistemology with ontology. Just because people have different answers to the same question (epistemology) does not mean there is no correct answer (ontology), or that no one knows the correct answer. If ten math students give ten different answers to the same math problem, it does not mean there is no correct answer, or that none of the students possess the correct answer. Difficulty in knowing a thing does not translate into an inability to know that thing, or the lack of a thing to be known in the first place. At best, the existence of a multiplicity of religious beliefs only highlights a possible epistemological problem associated with knowing God. It is not a good argument against the existence of God/gods (an ontological issue).
If the Bible is to be believed, the problem is not so much with epistemology as it is corrupted volition. Deep down men know the one true God, but in rebellion they will to suppress that knowledge, making up religions that are more palatable to their tastes. Think Romans 1-3.
Religious views are culture-specific
This is the more important of the two reasons. When you look at religion on a global level it becomes readily apparent that religious perspectives are often specific to a particular culture or geographical locale. It is claimed that the most reasonable explanation for this phenomenon is that religions are mere cultural inventions passed on from generation to generation. They don’t spread beyond the culture because—as an invention—they are not the sort of things that are accessible to, and discoverable by men outside the community in which they arose.
The observation that religions tend to be isolated to a particular culture and geography is true. The question is why that’s so. Is it because they are human inventions, or is there some other reason? I think the atheist is largely correct when he concludes from the multiplicity of geographical and culture-specific religions that religion is a human invention. Indeed, because they are markedly different from one another, they can’t all be right about God. At best, only one of them can be right, relegating the rest to human imagination. Where the skeptic errs is in his conclusion that all religions must be mere human inventions. Indeed, one religion could be the correct one.
But how could it be that only one culture has the truth about God, and none of the others (this isn’t to say there is no truth to be found in false religions, but only that on the macro-level, one religion is true and the rest are false)? It could be that God only chose to reveal Himself to one people, or it could be that all but one people remained faithful to the truths God revealed to them about Himself. It could be any number of other reasons as well. The point is that we need not conclude all religions are mere human inventions because they tend to be cultural and/or geographical-specific. That conclusion does not follow from the premises.
My next post will address a similar argument against religion.
May 6, 2007 at 5:49 am
Although you’re correct that all religions could be false, except for one that’s true, it’s very unlikely. It would be strange indeed if the true religion merely appeared to be a false religion, sharing all of the characteristics of false religions.
I’d compare it to the racist urban legend of the black woman who named her child after a medical term that sounds vaguely African-American, like Noxzema or Chlamydia.
http://www.snopes.com/racial/language/names.asp
Although the existence of these countless false stories doesn’t make it impossible for it to happen in real life, it would be unreasonable for a listener to assume that THIS friend actually DOES have an uncle who’s a doctor with a patient who named her kid Latrine. A reasonable person would notice the same basic storyline, structure, and intent, and reject the legend for what it is.
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May 8, 2007 at 11:03 pm
I’m not sure I follow you. Why would it be unlikely that only one religion is true in the meta-sense? Since they all conflict, either only one is right, none are right, or each has certain elements of truth sprinkled in with a lot of false ideas.
I’m not sure what you mean when you say, “It would be strange indeed if the true religion merely appeared to be a false religion, sharing all of the characteristics of false religions.” I’m not arguing that the true religion would appear to be a false religion.
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May 22, 2007 at 11:59 am
You failed to mention the origins of religion. Anthropological studies have shown that earliest man, (who had already conquered hunting, tool-making, rudimentary language skills, and had just learned to cultivate the land), formed communities and started worshipping the sun and or/moon for better harvests etc. THIS was the beginning of “religion”. And a singular “god” was thousands of years away.
So not only did man invent religion, but man did indeed invent god!
Your outright lie that (I assume christianity) is the one true religion and that all others are false would be laughable if it weren’t so horribly and historically inaccurate!!!
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May 28, 2007 at 4:52 pm
Valerie,
So much could be said in regards to your blithe assertions, but I will not take the time to respond until I know that you are not a drive-by poster. If you respond with another comment, we will talk.
Jason
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August 30, 2008 at 1:10 am
“[It] does not mean there is no correct answer (ontology), or that no one knows the correct answer.”
Well of course there is a correct answer. The following three options cover the possibilities:
1) There is/was one God.
2) There are/were more than one God/god
3) There are/never have been any god/God.
There are plenty or religions to choose from for option 1 (e.g., Judaism, Islam), and option 2 (e.g., Christianity, Hinduism). The next question is which of the three options best fits the data.
“At best, existence of a multiplicity of religious beliefs only highlights a possible epistemological problem associated with knowing God”
This is not a satisfactory claim. Given the fundamental claims by different religions, this leads to contradictions. For example, a fundamental claim of Christianity is the divinity of Jesus. So are you really accepting that this could be a mistaken belief? Another problem is the how convinced religious people can be in their own religion and gods – and I mean CONVINCED. So you’re saying that a God would purposely mislead people? In fact the very features that are often assigned to a ‘God’ become incoherent under your claim (e.g., omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent). And people wilfully kill others for believing in slight variations in beliefs (just to use the shades of Christianity as an example). Again, is their God some type of malevolent masochist that relishes in seeing such atrocities? Sacred texts are seen as the ‘word of god’ but are found to be false. And of course the texts contradict each other.
These contradictions do not support the claim that God exists but is unknowable. They lead inexorably to the conclusion that it is all being made up. Furthermore, people are very much more likely to stay with the religion they are brought up in then move to another religion.
You actually use a religious text to support your position “Deep down men know the one true God, but in rebellion they will to suppress that knowledge”, yet you have acknowledged that the text is unreliable. We cannot trust such a text. You have, in fact, shown the folly of your own position.
“The point is that we need not conclude all religions are mere human inventions because they tend to be cultural and/or geographical-specific. That conclusion does not follow from the premises.”
No, it certainly is possible that one religion is correct. But, by your own admission/reasoning, there is no way of knowing. You accept that the multiplicity of contradictory religions reflects “an epistemological problem associated with knowing God.” If there is a ‘God’ he/she/it has certainly not come out and proved his/her/itself. And from my points above, the data do not support there being such a ‘God’.
By your own admission, as well as observing the data, there is in fact no good reason to believe that any one religion is correct. The evidence supports that all religions are man made, and hence that there is no God/Gods/god/gods. You even quote something from a religious text – which by your own admission is unreliable – to try to support your position. This is simply circular reasoning.
The evidence supports the position that the prior probability of a god existing is 0%. And your argument shows that it is impossible to increase the probability beyond this.
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September 4, 2008 at 12:15 pm
dbes02
Your comments are very long. I copied it into a Word doc and it was more than a page in length. Unfortunately, the length of your comments are not because you require a lot of space to explain some concept, but because you choose to bring up lots of little points. Each one of your points merits a two page response. I can’t do that. So my response will have to be both selective, and very brief, when your points are deserving of so much more.
You are not an epistemological relativist, which is good. I agree with you that there is an answer, and I think the three options you provided are good.
You need to go back and re-read my statement, “At best, the existence of a multiplicity of religious beliefs only highlights a possible epistemological problem associated with knowing God” in context. I was not making an argument for the existence of God, but pointing out that the multiplicity and contradictory views on God is not a good argument in favor of atheism. It simply does not follow that if different people believe different things about God, then He cannot exist. And yet, atheists are fond of making this kind of argument all the time.
Why think God is deceiving people who think He is something He is not? Maybe He is just not concerned to correct them. That would not be deception, but apathy. On the Christian tradition, it is not God who deceives others, but others deceive themselves. Read Romans 1.
Yes, some people kill others in the name of religion. So what? What follows from that? Does it follow that God approves? Does it follow that God does not exist? This is not an argument. It is just an anthropological observation.
Yes, most people do not convert to other religions. What follows from that? That no religion is true? You seem to specialize in making philosophically insignificant observations.
No, I have not said we cannot trust the text. I think we can. And no, I have not admitted that we cannot know which religion, if any, is correct. We can.
Your last paragraph is completely off-base. There is a lot of independent evidence for the existence of God (the beginning of the universe, the order of the universe, morality, etc.), making His existence quite probable.
Jason
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January 17, 2018 at 8:16 am
Most skeptics and all atheists think of religion as a human invention because (1) religions differ greatly from one another, and (2) religious views are often culture-specific.
Both reasons are invalid.
Just because they differ greatly and are culture specific it doesn’t mean they are ”invented” by people. I could send the same book all over the world and people would interpret it in the light of their own cultural bias.
Using the word religion without properly defining what you mean by it is called loaded language. People usually use loaded language to bypass critical thinking and make people agree with them using words that have multiple definitions and meanings.
It’s a mainstream thing now to talk shit about religion, but if you ask people what they mean by it, not one them can define the term. They will babble some nonsense about the word coming from the latin religare because that is what they have been told and will regurgitate nonsense, insults, logical fallacies, call you names for using critical thinking and for humiliating them with counter arguments they can’t refute.
When you say ”Religion is a human invention” what does that even mean? Which religion are you talking about? Can you define the term religion instead of using it as an equivocation?
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January 17, 2018 at 3:50 pm
Stéphane Blouin:
Using the word God without properly defining what you mean by it is called loaded language.
Religion is easy to define>
RELIGION – People believe in the paranormal supernatural, such people whose espouse to something that does not exist but accept it without knowledge are said to be religious;
The doctrinal rituals that develop in a society so indoctrinated by repetitive ritualism regardless of that society’s environment, is the definition of religion.
Some societies finger bead as a repetitive ritual, some people henpeck in front of a wall, some societies flagellate themselves, some societies nail themselves to a cross in an annual parade; others genuflect, gesture themselves with the sign of a cross; others wear headdresses, cover their women, frenzy themselves into self or drug induced trances.
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