Philosophers Philippa Foot and Judith Jarvis Thomson devised a moral thought experiment called the Trolley Problem. It goes like this (in the words of Steven Pinker):
On your morning walk, you see a trolley car hurling down the track, the conductor slumped over the controls. In the path of the trolley are five men working on the track, oblivious to the danger. You are standing at a fork in the track and can pull a lever that will divert the trolley onto a spur, saving the five men. Unfortunately, the trolley would then run over a single worker who is laboring on the spur. Is it permissible to throw the switch, killing one man to save five?
Most people say yes. But consider a slightly different scenario:
You are on a bridge overlooking the tracks and have spotted the runaway trolley bearing down on the five workers. Now the only way to stop the trolley is to throw a heavy object in its path. And the only heavy object within reach is a fat man standing next to you—the same man who was laboring on the spur in the previous scenario. Should you throw the man off the bridge?
Most people say no. The question is why. In both scenarios (1) one person must die to save the five, (2) the fat man is the person who must die if the five are to be saved, and (3) your action is required to save the five. So why is it ok to flip the lever but not toss the fat man? Is it due to the relationship of physical proximity to humanization? That is to say, the closer we are physically to someone, the more we regard their person (similar to the way seeing someone die personalizes the concept of death, much different than mere knowledge that people die). Are we repulsed by the idea of tossing the fat man because his increased physical proximity (actually having to touch the man that is about to die because of our direct action) increases our perception of him as a valuable human being (whereas seeing him from afar and touching a lever does not), raising the emotional stakes too high for us to act as we know we should? If so, then the difference in response is merely emotional, not moral. If you think there is a moral difference between the two, however, what is the moral principle involved?
Now consider another, similar scenario:
On your morning walk you see a trolley car hurling down the track, the conductor slumped over the controls. In the path of the trolley is Osama bin Laden and Mother Theresa. You are standing at a fork in the track and can pull a lever that will divert the trolley onto a spur, saving them both. But doing so would cause the train to run over five murderers. Should one throw the switch (killing the five murderers, and sparing Mother Theresa and bin Laden), or should they do nothing (letting the train kill bin Laden and Mother Theresa?
This one is more complex. Unlike the first and second scenarios, here we have a choice between a group of evil people, and a group consisting of both good and evil people. On the one hand, sparing the most people would require that an innocent person be killed, and evil people live. But we would also kill an extremely evil person in the process. On the other hand, acting to spare one innocent person results not only in the death of five evil people, but also the continued life of a person whose evils add up to more than all the evils of the five murderers combined.
This scenario forces us to think about whether it is permissible to hurt the innocent to punish the evil, and whether the cumulative evil of lesser evil people adds up to more evil than a singular, extremely evil man. What do you think? What would you do?
February 15, 2008 at 9:10 am
Eze 21:3 And say to the land of Israel, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I am against thee, and will draw forth my sword out of his sheath, and will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked.
Eze 21:4 Seeing then that I will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked, therefore shall my sword go forth out of his sheath against all flesh from the south to the north:
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I do not have the answers to the murkiness of the questions. But it would be interesting to ask the questions to other cultures to see how they respond to the GRAYNESS of the moral dilemmas.
For examples, most of us would spare Mother Teresa. Would Alqueada supporters spare Osama Bid Laden if he was on the same track as Geroge W. Bush.
Muslims have a different view of life than us westerners do. And I do not accuse them of not holding life sacred. I believe they just hold death/Eternal Rewards higher than the sacredness of present life.
cjcook
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February 15, 2008 at 11:20 am
I emailed these questions to a friend of mine. Here is what she said:
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Umm… I pass no such trolleys hurling down the track with slumped over conductors along my morning walk. Perhaps on my evening walk, but definitely not on my morning walks. That not withstanding, I think that the way in which these “deep philosophical” questions are posed are rather unrealistic and therefore do not warrant a realistic response. It is highly unlikely that the scenarios outlined will ever manifest within the lifetime of an individual, therefore, asking what one would do if faced with that situation does not produce an answer that actually reflects that person’s moral and ethical philosophies. If the point of this exercise is to try to determine a person’s moral agenda outside of their own emotions, than presenting a scenario specifically designed to appeal to a person’s emotions in spite of the moral implications involved is illogical and self-defeating. They should know better. They can ask the same question in a much more productive manner to provoke a response that is much more realistic and true to one’s own moral agenda.
In other words… I aint answering the question. It’s stupid.
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February 15, 2008 at 11:26 am
Jason, fyi, I was going to leave out her last line about the question(s) being stupid, because I did not want you or anyone else to be offended or slighted, BUT I left it in because I wanted her full response and reaction to be noted.
I just wanted to share that brother.
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February 15, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Thanks for posting that Michael. I am not offended in the least.
Your friend wrote, “It is highly unlikely that the scenarios outlined will ever manifest within the lifetime of an individual, therefore, asking what one would do if faced with that situation does not produce an answer that actually reflects that person’s moral and ethical philosophies.”
Three things should be said. First, this shows how much the philosophy of pragmatism influences our culture. If it’s not practical, it’s not worth thinking about. I think that is a very shallow way of thinking (and not a very good philosophy at that).
Second, and more importantly, the purpose of these scenarios is not to prepare you for such a scenario! The purpose is to get one to think about moral principles–particularly their relationship to one another, and what to do when they conflict. The principles we discover/employ do have real-life applications. That is the real value of these moral thought experiments.
Thirdly, I can’t understand how your friend reasons from the fact that the scenarios are unrealistic, that the moral principles we use to solve this dilemma would not reflect the our moral philosophy. If we are not drawing on our moral philosophy to answer these scenarios, from whence are we drawing our moral principles? A magic 8-ball?
Jason
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February 17, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Michael,
I would question your friend’s “answer” to the question. Every indication is that she has something to hide and is unwilling to confront moral truths about herself.
Arthur
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February 17, 2008 at 8:34 pm
My answers:
(1) Throw the switch
(2) Don’t throw the fat man
(3) Don’t throw the switch, letting OBL and MT die.
I think the reason we would not throw the fat man in (2) is that we are directly and intentionally killing the fat man, whereas in (1) the death of the fat man is an indirect and unintended consequence.
I don’t think Mother Theresa was all she was cracked up to be. And OBL is dangerous, far more so than five murderers. So I didn’t think it was that difficult.
The easiest thing to do is not to pull any switches or throw any fat men, on the ground that any killing is wrong.
Another twist: what if nobody but you ever knew whether your pulled the switches or threw the fat man?
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February 19, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Arthur,
I agree with you regarding 1 and 2, but I’m not so certain what I would do about 3.
What is it about MT that you think justifies letting her die alongside of an evil man?
I don’t think others’ ignorance of your choices should affect your choice. It is either right or wrong, regardless of who knows about your actions.
Jason
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February 22, 2008 at 8:26 am
I don’t believe I would throw the switch in either case or the fat man onto the tracks. I believe my convictions would direct me to try my best to save all by warning those in the path, praying or some other intervention besides making the decisions presented. I realize that the results in this hypothetical would mean that those already in the path of the train would die. But I would have done all that I could do without choosing who would die, but see I believe that I would be limited to that option. Now if Bin Laden were on the track by himself and someone else were on the other I might direct the train to Bin Laden. Interestingly I am a professional firefighter I could be presented with a similar scenario and in a way have been. I.E. what if I respond to a burning building and see 5 people in one window and 1 in another window. Whom do I save, the 5 or the 1. The textbook answer would be the five, opting to minimize the lost of life or what if I am responding to someone having a heart attack and pass a house on fire with 5 people trapped. Do I stop or do I go to my first call. protocol calls for the latter but it would be a difficult decision. I probably would stop at the house and dispatch someone else to the heart attack, still here I would be choosing to try in some way to save all involved.
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February 22, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Anonymous,
The dilemmmas assumes you are too far removed from the people for them to hear your warning, or that there is not enough time for you to give the warning, them to mentally process your warning, and then act. So that is not an option.
If you fail to act when you had the abilitity to do so, and your actions could have saved lives, you are morally culpable for failing to act. It would be the same as in a situation in which you witness someone being beat to death and do nothing to try to stop it.
I find it interesting that you would be moved to action if you could see to it that bin Laden was killed. That tells me you would act to bring about justice, but not act to save lives.
If we could tinker with the original story again, and make it your spouse on the track the train is heading toward, and five people on the track you could divert the train toward, would it be morally acceptable to divert the train away from your spouse to spare her, but kill the five men in the process? The same could be asked of the burning building scenario. If you can save your wife, or five other people, is it immoral to save your wife and let them perish? I would argue that it is not immoral to do so. What do you think? What does everyone else think?
Jason
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February 22, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Yes this would further complicate things. To aswer again the original, I would still think that I would not throw the switch in scenarios 1 and 3 because it would require me to make judgement without without any additional knowledge of those involved. In 3 I would not value Mother Teresa’s or any “saint’s” life above the others. However, if Bin Laden were alone, as you say, it would be acting to bring justice. I would rather leave that to those who are charged with it but in the scenario presented I would sacrifice him for the life of the others. In scenario 2 I could never throw the fat man in the way of the train but wished I were of the character to consider throwing myself down to save the others. Can’t say that I would (probably not). In the additional scenarios involving my wife and the burning building or tracks, I would most assuredly save my wife. I don’t know that I would consider any of the above decisions to be immoral except throwing the innocent bystander on the tracks, Even if one were to fail to divert the train to Bin Laden alone on the tracks I don’t think it could be considered immoral. I guess my view would be that one shouldn’t be or wouldn’t be held accountable to his actions in these scenarios the dilemma is such that one couldn’t think rationally and it the right thing to ambiguous know.
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February 22, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Anonymous and Mike in post 8 and 10 are the same. just to clear it up.
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February 22, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Mike,
Thanks for chiming in again, and identifying yourself!
So you think the (any) decision should be based on knowing the people involved, rather than a desire to preserve human life?
I would definitely work to preserve the life of someone I knew to be just (Mother Theresa), over the life/lives of those I did not now.
I agree with you that I would not throw the fat man, for the reasons Arthur mentioned.
I would also save my wife, and i don’t think it would be immoral (I think it would be immoral if I let her die because I have a moral duty to protect her as her husband). But that goes to show that the moral dilemma is not entirely decided by counting numbers. Other factors are involved such as our relationship with those who stand to be killed, and the character of those who may be killed.
Jason
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February 24, 2008 at 10:02 am
I should have said knowledge of circumstances or lack thereof would dictate my decision to act or not instead of knowing the people involved. I agree we are morally obliged to protect our wives. So let me pose one last question, would you throw the fat man on the tracks to save your wife?
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February 25, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Mike,
If it is your knowledge of the circumstances, rather than your knowledge of the people involved, then you could make a decision to pull the lever based solely on your immediate perception that your failure to do so will result in the loss of five lives rather than one.
No, I would not throw the fat man onto the track to save my wife. I think it is intrinsically wrong to do so, regardless of the intent or result. As Arthur wrote, throwing the fat man would be a direct and intentional killing of the fat man, rather than an indirect and unintended consequence as the pulling of the lever would be (in which the fat man is standing on the tracks).
Let me ask you what you think of this: what if it was not your wife, but your best friend on the track? Unlike your wife, you have no moral obligation to protect him. Would it be wrong, then, to pull the lever to spare his life, taking the lives of five others in the process? I tend to think it would be.
Jason
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February 25, 2008 at 5:25 pm
I think, as you do, it would be wrong to sacrifice the five to save my friend. I still would not change the circumstances to save 5 lives which would result in the death of one man who otherwise would have lived. If that is all I knew of the circumstances. I think I am not counting the number of lives that would be saved but am valuing each life independently. The one man’s life is as valuable as the five. Unless again something would drive me to take action, my wife being one of the five, Bin Laden being the one man alone etc. Enjoyed the discussion. thanks.
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February 26, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Jason and Arthur,
I am going to send the response to my friend…she what she says…I will be back with update…
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February 27, 2008 at 2:39 am
I would differ with you there. I think we have a moral duty to save as many lives as possible when it is within our ability to do so. The only exception is when it is the life of our spouse or kids, because we have a greater moral duty to protect them over others.
Jason
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