It has become quite common for people to assert that we cannot know anything about God, or that anything we ascribe to Him is neither true nor false, but simply meaningless. God is said to be ineffable. This assertion is often offered in the context of evangelism. In our attempt to persuade someone to become a Christian, we make certain truth-claims about God, and are met by the “God is ineffable” response, effectively shutting down the conversation. What can you say to such a person? I would suggest you ask a simple question: why? Why should we think God is ineffable? Typically, the reasons proffered will include “Because God is wholly other,” “Because God transcends language,” or “Because God surpasses human categories of thought.”
Do you notice something amiss about these responses?: They all ascribe certain characteristics to God’s nature, and these characteristics are thought to be true descriptions of God. In essence they are saying it is true that God is wholly other, and transcends human language and categories of thought, and this is why nothing can be true of God. Or similarly, they know God is wholly other, and transcends human language and categories of thought, and this is why nothing can be known of God.
This is self-refuting. They are claiming to know certain truths about God, that make it impossible to know truths about God. The advocate of an ineffable deity is left in the strange situation where he is unable to provide any reason for thinking God to be ineffable, without having to claim to know something true about Him. If the “ineffabalist” cannot provide a reason for thinking God to be ineffable without giving us true knowledge about Him, there is no reason to think God is ineffable.
August 6, 2008 at 9:00 pm
I don't believe you can know that God is or isn't ineffable because I don't believe you can know anything about God. What's ineffable mean anyways? That's just like theologians to use words that people don't understand to qualify what God is like. What I mean is that if there is a being like God he/she must be way out there and beyond us. How much can you know about a being like that? You know?
…just kidding. ;>
Chad
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August 7, 2008 at 11:08 am
You had me worried for a second!
Jason
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August 8, 2008 at 9:06 am
‘Infinite intelligibility – such is God.’ – St. Gregory Nazianzen
The incomprehensible is the opposite of the unintelligible. The deeper we enter into the infinite, the better we understand that we can never hold it in our hands. “Whatever is understood by science is limited by the understanding of the knower.” – Augustine
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August 8, 2008 at 9:52 am
Fr. Robert,
I’m scratching my head. I’m not sure what your point is. Is it that God is not fully comprehensible? If so, I would completely agree. But there is a difference between not being able to comprehend God, and not being able to know anything true about Him, no matter how limited that knowledge may be.
Jason
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August 12, 2008 at 8:27 pm
I was, of course, completely joking. It was a feeble attempt at reductio ad absurdum, that is, answering the fool according to his folly. To say that one can know nothing about God is self-refuting for that is to make at least one truth claim about God. Indeed that is a very bold and audacious claim for that puts the claimant above all the rest of us to say that no one else can know anything about God–and they know it!
Chad
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January 19, 2010 at 4:06 pm
[…] perspective is fundamentally flawed. Not only is it self-refuting and contradictory, to say no human concept of God can be true of God (since the concept of ineffability is a human […]
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September 23, 2016 at 1:19 pm
To say that understanding God is beyond our capacity is not “self-refuting.” There are many things that are beyond our capacity to understand, for example, ancient writings of which there are too few examples for us to decipher. It would not be “self-refuting” to say that we lack the capacity to understand the few symbols that are extant. That is just stating a fact. Perhaps God exists at a level of complexity and sublimity that we are incapable of wrapping our heads around. That might be one reason that he is incomprehensible to us.
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September 23, 2016 at 1:52 pm
Before all the gods were lumped into One True God none of the gods were comprehended because all gods are figments of caricature concept imagination. I would never understand you god unless you defined her
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April 6, 2017 at 7:12 pm
Hello!
I’m not a believer of the God described in the Bible, especially in the first four of the Ten Commandments. It’s possible that there’s a driving force that causes biological phenomena but it may not even have self-awareness and would not be worthy of the title, God.
I find it strange that people who believe in God resort to calling Him ineffable and then enter into discussion with people who do not believe. Below is a definition of ineffable –
in·ef·fa·ble
/inˈefəb(ə)l/
adjective
1.
too great or extreme to be expressed or described in words:
“the ineffable natural beauty of the Everglades”
synonyms:
indescribable, inexpressible, beyond words, beyond description, begging description, … more
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Peace to all,
Dinos
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April 27, 2021 at 10:29 am
You completely overlooked the distinction between language object and metalanguage, in your case the language object is the language speaking about God, and the metalanguage is the language speaking about the language speaking about God. Following your fallacious reasoning, no grammar texts would possibly exist, since they presuppose the rules they explain.
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