I recently heard a preacher repeat the oft-cited aphorism, “A man who has an argument is always at the mercy of a man who has an experience.” This is quite true as an anthropological observation, but I don’t think this is necessarily a good thing.
The aphorism was quoted by the preacher in the context of those who doubt the reality of Spirit baptism and glossalalia. I am inclined to agree with him in one very real and practical sense. No matter what argument someone might present to me against glossalalia, the fact of the matter is that I have experienced it for myself and, thus, I know it is real. But the blade can cut both ways. What about the Mormon who claims to have received a “burning in his bosom” confirming the truth of the Book of Mormon? Should the Mormon trust his experience over sound reason to the contrary? I imagine the preacher would say that in this case, reason should trump experience. But why should the aphorism apply to us, and not to the Mormon? To the Mormon, his experience was equally as real as our own. If we can reject arguments that contradict our experience, why can’t the Mormon?
Or consider Copernicus and Galileo. They claimed that the Earth was not stationary, but was moving around the sun (the sun wasn’t moving around the Earth). If we look to our experience as the lone arbiter of truth, we must reject this hypothesis because in our experience, the Earth is stationary and the sun revolves around it. But in fact, based on astronomical data/arguments, we know Galileo was right and our experience is misleading! If the man with an argument is at the mercy of the man with an experience, however, we should reject heliocentrism. And yet nobody in his right mind would do so. The evidence is so compelling for heliocentrism that we believe it despite our experience to the contrary. So why would anyone in his right mind think a man with an argument should be at the mercy of a man with an experience?
My point is not to say all experiences are equally valid, or that all claims to an experience are even veridical. My point is that experience alone should not be viewed as a trump card against any and all arguments to the contrary.[1] After all, it could be that we did not experience what we thought we did (it’s amazing what people will “experience” when they are expected to experience it), or that we misinterpreted the experience we had.
While the aphorism that a man who has an argument is always at the mercy of a man who has an experience may aptly describe how people often approach matters of truth (experience takes precedence over reason), it should not be understood as prescriptive; i.e. it should not be understood to mean that we should prefer experience over reason when it comes to assessing what is true. While it may be a valid observation about human psychology in general, it is not an epistemological dictum. We should always consider both reason and experience when assessing matters of truth.
[1]I should note that in saying this, I am not claiming the preacher in question would disagree. He may very well agree with this point. In his message, however, he only cited the aphorism to show that experience should trump arguments, at least on the issue of Spirit-infilling and glossalalia.
March 20, 2010 at 11:37 am
Well said, Jason!
Let me know when you jump on the Twitter or FB band wagon to promote this site. I’d be happy to follow.
Blessings,
James
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March 21, 2010 at 6:56 am
Jason,
This reminds me of an old show, I think on Oprah, about silicon implants. The host had the CEO on the show, who remained remarkably calm. He talked about how there were countless studies showing that the devices were safe, and that while some people with them got sick, they didn’t get sick at a rate worse than those without them. One woman in the audience was outraged and said, “You didn’t perform the study on me! Study me!”
The trial lawyers lined their pockets based on phantom causation, and they were pulled off the market for some time. Now they’re back, proven safe.
Also reminded of Ronald Reagan’s joke about ivory tower types trying to prove whether something that happens in fact can happen in theory.
The problem is largely limited to religion. It’s one thing to see God come down in person. It’s another thing to feel a rush at a rock concert or in a religious meeting and to call that evidence when we know that all sorts of people have those experiences.
Arthur
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March 24, 2010 at 9:22 pm
This is one reason I like Dr. Craig’s web site title, “Reasonable Faith”. It kind of says it all. Experience is great. Experience backed by Scripture is better. Indeed, it’s the only way faith or experience can survive the attacks of the enemy and life in general.
The fact is that time and argument has talked many out of their experience. But if your faith and experience are grounded in Scripture through a “reasonable” interpretation of Scripture, your “reasonable faith” is much more likely to stand.
The trick if you will, is to keep your metaphorical nose in the Word.
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January 5, 2011 at 5:38 am
I agree w/DW. And to oversimplify… I’d contend that both men are at the mercy of truth, logic, and scripture.
Jason, great blog btw!
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September 23, 2012 at 2:23 am
When I hear that phrase I reply “Unless you are at a magic show.”
A magician makes an argument “I can do ____, and this is how I will do it…” The audience has an experience. And in no way at all does the experience represent what is really taking place. The magician is the one making the argument, and intentionally deceives. He is essentially making two arguments – one outloud, and one that is hidden. The true argument is hidden to all those who experience the other. I’m not explaining myself well, but I think you get it.
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September 24, 2012 at 10:42 am
Darren,
Yes, I think I get your point. There are times that our experience can deceive of us the truth, and thus we need more than experience.
Jason
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May 5, 2013 at 5:00 am
I would say that our experience must agree with the truth of scripture. In the example of glossalalia, using it as a comparison to a mormon experience, is hardly an apples for apples comparison. Glossalalia is perceivable by others and is solidly supported by scripture. A mormon burning in the chest, well, I admittedly don’t know what that is. Thanks for making me look up aphorism. I just read Darren Warlows comment, sorry for some redundancy. Blessings!
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January 24, 2018 at 12:58 pm
do you know the origin of the quote? Who can we thank or not thank for its existence?
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May 25, 2019 at 9:01 pm
Leonard Ravenhill “A man with an experience of God is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.”
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July 8, 2019 at 8:50 am
Just “stumbled” upon this article doing a google search on this particular quote. This was very insightful and provided a different perspective that I would not have considered otherwise. Thank you!!
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August 25, 2020 at 11:28 am
I believe you looked at this aphorism in reverse, a common mistake. The saying is tied to immutable truth. i.e. a person having an experience verses an argument that is based on theory or partial, the experience wins because there is no proof to deny the experience. It stands because it is immutable until that person has another experience to refute or alter the perspective of the first. No argument has can do that in itself without the recipient having a coinciding experience. Than the cycle starts all over again.
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August 31, 2020 at 12:20 pm
It all depends on what one means by the aphorism. Given the way you are defining it, obviously one’s experience is immutable. What isn’t immutable is their interpretation of their experience. For example, many people have reported seeing dead loved ones after they have died. I don’t doubt that their experience is veridical, but I do doubt the interpretation of that experience that says they saw the actual person. And I could give an argument as to why their interpretation is mistaken. If that argument is successful, then they should give up their interpretation of their experience.
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