Could Jesus have rolled away the stone that covered his tomb? The entrance of a Jewish tomb was quite small, so the stone needed to cover the opening would only be 4-6’ in diameter, and approximately 1’ thick. How much would such a stone weigh? Depending on the type of stone used, it could weigh between 1-2 tons (2000-4000 pounds).[1] This is quite heavy, but two men could move it into place (Mt 27:60; Jn 19:38-42). The more difficult task was removing the stone.
Generally speaking, the rolling stone was set inside a groove in front of the entrance, and secured from falling over by a stone wall that stood in front of tomb opening (the rolling stone was sandwiched between the tomb entrance and stone wall as the pictures below illustrate). Often, the groove was not level, but slightly sloped. To close the tomb, the stone would be rolled down the groove at a decline and come to rest in front of the entrance. To open the tomb, the stone would have to be rolled up the groove at an incline.
Given the structure of such tombs, it would not have been possible for Jesus to simply push the stone over from the inside of the tomb. He would have to roll the 2000+ pound stone back up the groove without having anything to grip. Such a feat would not be possible for one healthy man, yet alone a man who had just been beaten to a bloody pulp by the Romans.
[1]It has been difficult finding sources which indicate the average weight of rolling stones. I have seen figures ranging from 1/3 ton to two tons. The most detailed information I found was as follows: “Archeological records list rolling stone size as radius 0.7-0.8 m and width 0.3-0.4 m. That produces a volume of about 0.5 cubic meters (pi*r^2 *w). Workable stone such as granite weighs about 2500 kg (5500 lbs) per cubic meter, giving a weight of at least 2750 lbs.” See http://eutychusnerd.blogspot.com/2009/04/rolling-stone.html.
April 18, 2011 at 5:35 pm
No one ever said that Jesus rolled the stone away! In fact, it appears that He arose before the stone was rolled away in His glorified body. The stone was rolled away by
angels for the women and the dsicples to see!
So…..define the strength of two angels
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April 19, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Charles,
Perhaps I should have set up the post a bit bitter. The post is a response to an alternative explanation to the resurrection, offered by skeptics, which claims Jesus did not die on the cross, and was revived while in the tomb, rolled away the stone, and then presented Himself to His disciples as the risen Christ. My point is that it would not have been possible for Jesus to roll the stone away Himself.
Jason
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April 13, 2012 at 1:04 pm
I dont even think Jesus really existed, much less rolled anything
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April 13, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Sean, why would you think such a thing as that? You won’t find a reputable historian who will agree with you. Even an atheist like Bart Ehrman who thinks Christianity is bunk agrees that Jesus existed (he was so amazed at people who hold your position that he recently wrote a book on the topic showing the evidence for Jesus’ existence). And why does he do so? Because he is a historian, and the evidence is overwhelming. Any reason we might have to doubt that Jesus existed is 100-fold more for most other ancient figures. There is virtually no doubt that Jesus existed. One may question if Jesus made the claims that His disciples recorded in the Gospels, or question whether He did the things we read about, but to question His existence is utter nonsense.
Jason
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April 16, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Very helpful in preparing Sunday school lesson. Thanks.
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October 4, 2012 at 6:17 am
And helpful for my preaching next Sunday! Thanks.
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November 2, 2012 at 10:02 am
Personally I have no problem accepting that Jesus was a real living person; however, Even if Jesus is a storybook character, that doesn’t mean he’s not a good character, doesn’t mean he hasn’t got wisdom to impart. Didn’t He say the Kingdom of Heaven is within? Luke 17; 21, I think it was. And what a useful piece of information that is when you think about it. Jesus started a change in the way people treated others with respect to the Law of Humanity; namely compassion, forgiveness and turn the other cheek. This revolution replaced the Mosaic Law of Revenge and while scripture says that Jesus did not change the Law, he DID change the law as it was practiced; he did not change the Law as it was SUPPOSED to be practiced but was not, Jesus talked about the Law being a love of one’s neighbor as thyself thereby changing the Law as it was meant to be practiced from the point of view of Love not Revenge. Unfortunately the Justice System in the free world today still operates on the penalty/punishment aspect and sinners are convicted to carry the albatross of a “record” for the rest of their lives.
I also believe Jesus survived the crucifixion and escaped to heal and live through a secreted tunnel; after all, Joseph of Arimathea one of the richest men in town along with Nicodemus were Pharisees and Members of the Sanhedrin, ruler of the Jews. Joseph hewed the tomb for 2 years before the crucifixion, asked for and received the body of Jesus from Pontius Pilate for burial (one has to have some brass and influence for that) and both Joseph and Nicodemus anointed the body of Jesus with 75 pounds of expensive myrrh and aloes for burial. The tomb was designed to fill in the escape tunnel at the same time that the stone rolled away, seemingly unaided by natural forces, but it was as part of the engineering feat of which I myself can easily design a replica today.
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November 4, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Leonardo,
I think your understanding of the Mosaic law is skewed. Only one kind of law called for punishment (rather than revenge), and that was the civic law – which all societies have and need. You may not like some of the punishments, but they were not for revenge. And you are missing the grace and compassion of the law as well. The laws were meant to protect people from injustice and poverty and starvation. Israel had a welfare system (tithes for the poor, corners of crops to be left for poor, indentured servanthood, release of debts every 7/50 years), and God commanded that the foreigners be treated with compassion.
As for Jesus, if he was just a fictional character, you are right to say that he could still inspire people to good. But I doubt that many people would be inspired to do the things they have done in His name if they thought he was just a fictional character. There’s a lot of fantastic fictional characters, and yet I don’t know of anybody who changes their life because of them.
If you think Jesus is opposed to punishment, you and I are reading two different Bibles. Jesus talked about hell more than any other person in the Bible, and He is the one who will return to the Earth to destroy sinners in what can only be described as the greatest bloodbath the world will ever see. Sure, Jesus preached love and forgiveness, but that was not at the expense of justice. And the love and forgiveness He spoke of was regarding personal ethics, not how a government should operate. Indeed, in Gen 6 and Rom 13 we read that the purpose of the government is to reward the righteous and punish the wicked. No one ever thought this was inconsistent with Jesus’ teachings because Jesus was speaking about personal ethics, not political ethics.
You think Jesus survived the crucifixion? When the death of Jesus at the hands of the Romans is considered one of the best-attested historical facts of ancient history, you better have some good evidence for this wild assertion. And given the methods of Roman crucifixion, survival would require a divine miracle! So what’s your evidence? You offer nothing but a conspiracy theory. That’s not evidence. It’s fanciful speculation parading as something to be taken seriously.
Where did you get the idea that Joseph had hewn his tomb just two years prior to the crucifixion? Sources please.
And if Jesus did survive, how do you get the idea that He continued on with His ministry? It’s kind of hard to for the early church to preach a resurrected and ascended Jesus if Jesus was still walking around on Earth. Again, sources please.
Jason
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November 5, 2012 at 11:52 am
Jesus did not continue on with his ministry; after the crucifixion he left the area for good, to lands we can only imagine, most likely France but when he left, he left with an entourage and the cloud of dust from the wheels and hooves rose up to take him “out of his sight”, another miracle misconception about then miracle of ascension, suspending the Laws of Physics.
The Ten Commandments became religious decrees which were capital punishment offenses, the first four purely religious as the Blasphemy Laws of Muslims still have a ludicrous hold on the people. However the Ten Commandments is a misnomer because they should more rightly be called the Ten Observations.
If you cannot see that the Mosaic Law of eye for and eye and tooth for a tooth was a Law of Revenge, well….
If you think that my escape theory is fanciful speculation, what in the world do you think the belief in the resurrection is? The difference is that my theory borders Common Sense, the other borders insanity as nobody is raised from the dead, Nada, Non, not even one.
What “best attested historical facts” besides the bible are you talking about?
Jesus will never return to the earth to kill sinners; there is no Second Coming and if you think there is you missed the whole point of Jesus message about the coming of the Son of Man in his day just as the Pharisees missed Jesus point when he told them that “before Abraham was, I am” referring not to himself personally, but to himself as a microcosm of the whole human race of the Sons of Man, of people who pick up the torch for freedom as a champion the downtrodden, as a “Messiah”, in every generation. Jesus said: “Abraham—your ‘father’—with jubilant faith looked down the corridors of history and saw my day coming. He saw it and cheered.” Likewise did Jesus refer to the coming of the Son of Man, “For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.” Jesus was no more talking about himself, personally, than Abraham was talking about Himself, personally.
The Tomb? Matt 27: in the garden a new sepulchre, wherein was never man yet laid. 59 And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, 60 And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.
Now I remember reading about the time it took Joseph to have hewn the tomb but if two years seems short or long how long do you think it would take?
Jesus said the Kingdom is within you. Who resides in the kingdom? The Father. Now if the Kingdom of heaven is within you, and the Father lives there, where do you think the Kingdom of Hell is? Same place. They are concepts not places one goes to.
However I thank you for sharing your perspective. You perspective is one that has endured down through the ages since before the days of Jesus.
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.
23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.
24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
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November 7, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Everyone writing on this board is an atheist. Everyone can name a God in which they do not believe; say, Zeus for example. Let them advance the case that the one in which they do believe is the superior one. Now consider this. How long has the human species been around on earth? Some say 500,000 years, some say three quarters of a million years, regardless of those time frames let’s go with the smallest; 75,000 years which is when humans came out of Africa and how long has the God thing been here? Perhaps 4 or 5 thousand years? so it seems then that for 70,000 years heaven was sitting back just watching this pitiful, miserable, illiterate, starving, species of the human race,
to say nothing of the wars they’ll fight with each other, to say nothing of the cruelty they will inflict as well as the ones they will suffer for just existing. Despite thousand of generations of misery, heaven finally decides it’s time for an intervention. And the best way to do it would be in the most primitive part of the Middle East, not in China where people could read and looked through telescopes. In the most primitive Middle East, basically by offering human sacrifice to him.
Religion is a doctrine of a God with absolute certainty that cannot be believed by anyone who has studied anything scientific, anything historical, anything archaeological, anything palealogical, anything biological; it can only be believed by someone who wants to be a plaything and a slave to a pitiless, totalitarian power. How glad we should be that the evidence for this ghastly entity is NIL. C Hitchens
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November 7, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Leonardo, I need more time to respond to your last two comments, but I just couldn’t resist responding to your nonsensical comment that everyone is an atheist because they reject some purported god or another. That is such an abuse of language. An atheist is not one who does not believe in a specific deity, but one who does not believe in any deity. Saying that Christians are atheists because they reject the existence of all other God is like saying I am not moarried because there are 3.5 billion women other than my wife that I am not married to. There’s a big difference between not being married to everyone, and not being married at all. Someone who believes in the existence of an infinite, monotheistic God can hardly be called an atheist. So hang your ridiculous slogan out to dry.
Jason
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November 7, 2012 at 4:45 pm
The truth is that every human born, is born an atheist; then, along comes religion shattering the quietly evolving rational brain formulating, to work within the parameters of the Laws of Nature.
Religion introduces the ludicrous notion of the supernatural with wild imaginative stories that the Laws of Physics are suspended called miracles, the purpose of which the clergy use to structure their financial security and fortify a power base in the reptilian human brain as Messengers of the Gods. And I might hasten to add that thousands of gods have been created since the year dot. The one true god has never existed and never will exist.
If it wasn’t for nonsense, the religious would have no sense at all.
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November 8, 2012 at 12:16 pm
If you’re a Christian. You’re born already in debt, to Jesus, and it’s a debt that you can only repay, in full, by dying. Whew, that’s some deal you got yourself there.
That’s like asking you to pay off a mortgage on a house that you already own. Especially as there’s no hard, historical evidence that the Jesus of the gospels even existed. I mean, what records we do have, were written by people who were born long, after he died; so, they were just really passing on what they heard and of course the same is true of the gospels themselves.
Curious isn’t it that nobody who was actually writing anything down at the time appears to have known anything at all about Jesus, despite the fantastic miracles he was performing, the multitudes he was preaching to, and of course his momentous and spectacular public demise. And don’t forget this is a guy whose birth was marked by a celestial event, who was born by a miracle, to a virgin, in the year 6 BC.
Two miracles for the price of one, talk about hit the ground running and then it was one miracle after another, fed the multitudes, healed the sick, walked on water, raised the dead, He was nailed to a plank and He came back to life again. How can nobody have heard of him? He should have been the talk of the desert. He should have been as famous as Elvis.
And yet, all we’ve got is hearsay: second and third hand accounts which have been doctored and edited and translated, through, ahead, backwards so many times that the truth no longer bears any resemblance to itself if it ever did. So, I don’t know who you think you’re praying to but it doesn’t seem to have done you much good does it? Maybe you should try praying to Elvis for awhile, see how that works out. I mean at least we know that Elvis actually existed.
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November 19, 2012 at 5:11 pm
Leonardo,
So Jesus probably went to France. Source?
Everything you have offered makes for good storytelling. The question is a matter of evidence. You can tell any story you wish when you are dealing with fiction, but the moment you enter the realm of history you need to be able to substantiate your reconstruction of the past. All you’re offering are stories, and thus I have reason to interpret them as anything other than the fiction that they are.
The resurrection hypothesis is not speculation. It may be false, but it’s not speculation. The difference is that we have historical records documenting that this was the earliest explanation for the empty tomb and post-mortem appearances. You’ve got nothing but your imagination. And we can test the resurrection hypothesis, and I think it does better than any other explanation at explaining the historical facts.
You asked, “What “best attested historical facts” besides the bible are you talking about?” The Bible is not a fact, the facts are contained in the Bible. And the facts that I am referring to is the death of Jesus, His burial in the tomb of Joseph, the discovery of the empty tomb, and his post-mortem appearances. Scholars of all stripes, whether they are believers or not, agree that these are bedrock historical facts. All that remains to be determined is how to explain them.
I don’t know how long it took Joseph to have his tomb hewn. It could have been two years. But those two years could have been in AD 20-21. Why think it was after he met Jesus, or two years right before Jesus’ crucifixion?
You made many comments that do not have anything to do with the empty tomb or resurrection. I don’t have time to explore 1000 rabbit trails, so I’ve limited my comments to the relevant statements.
Jason
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November 19, 2012 at 5:12 pm
Leonardo,
No, not everyone is born an atheist. An atheist is someone who believes the proposition “God exists” is false. Babies can have no opinion about the truth or falsity of that proposition, and thus cannot be either theists or atheists. I’ll be posting on this topic shortly, actually, so you can read my full treatment at that time.
Now you doubt that Jesus existed? I’m not surprised. For someone who doesn’t even think we need historical sources for our historical reconstructions, it’s not surprising that you devalue the historical sources we have. There is more reason to believe that Jesus lived than for most ancient figures. See http://www.onenesspentecostal.com/jesusexisted.htm for starters.
Who was writing during Jesus’ day? Can you point me to a history that was produced in the 30s or 40s? The works of literature we have from the 1st century are sparse. And even if there was someone who was writing at that time, why think that they would be concerned about Jesus? If I’m writing about Roman history, why include a peasant miracle worker from Galilee? He has no place in my composition. And you act as if they had news sources in that day like we do today. Sure, if Jesus lived in modern times, and 2000 years from now nobody could find any reports about him from CNN, NBC, CBS, etc., that would be strange. But such was not the case 2000 years ago. One of the problems with you skeptics is that you are always trying to impose modern standards/expectations on the ancient world.
Jason
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November 19, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Jason:
I accept that Jesus was a living person. To me Jesus is a hero; a hero with an uncommon amount of common sense; not a god, not a son of god labels that Jesus was tagged with, tags he did not create, did not endorse and did not accept.
Now every human being IS born an atheist because you have the definition of an atheist backwards; a ploy that Christians conveniently offer that tries to define atheism as a belief system, like religion and use this gimmick to claim atheism is itself a belief system, when it is in fact not belief; it is “NON BELIEF.
The definition of an atheist is someone who does not believe in the existence of a god and all human beings are born without a belief in a god; it is religion and misguided clergy/Messenger wannabees who introduce the concept of god, a belief system hoax.
Christians claim that atheism is a “belief” that god does not exist but that is totally wrong. Atheism is not a belief system but a “non belief” system. Sorry but every human being is born without a belief in god, religion comes along and brainwashes society to BELIEVE in a figment of ancient mindset imagination. Religion takes the fertile mind of a child and indoctrinates it with ludicrous ideas about the supernatural, claiming that something that does not exist and never can exist, actually exists. Humans must come into a belief system by denying every sensible reason the human brain has evolved to accept because belief in the supernatural is totally unnatural and alien to the human experience. No human being is ever born with the idea that god does not exist; this is a total fallacy; how could they unless they were first provoked to imagine that the god myth did exist?
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December 14, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Leonardo,
I didn’t say atheism is a belief system. I said atheism is not the absence of belief, but the belief/affirmation that the proposition “God exists” is false. That’s very different from saying it’s a belief system, and very different from saying atheism is just the absence of belief in God. Stones lack a belief in God, but clearly they are not atheists. The only things capable of being an atheist are those things that are capable of denying that the proposition “God exists” is true. Since neither rocks nor newborns are capable of such an affirmation, neither are atheists.
Jason
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December 15, 2012 at 9:38 am
Jason: you don’t have to say that atheism is a belief system when you imply that it is a belief system. Regardless of the semantics and spin on words you use, atheism is simply not a belief in your proposition because the proposition is the reason atheism exists at all. That is why babies are born atheists, without a belief in a supernatural god; that belief system, is what religion indoctrinates children with and child abuse in modern society stills allows this abuse; the good news (gospel) is, that it is faltering and will continue to falter until its demise, albeit slowly, as a big ship turning around in the ocean from centuries of misguided deceitfulness by the church through its clergy, for financial security. Jesus did not accept the supernatural gods of men and in his 8 fold indictment of the clergy, it is clear that he hated religious circles that promote hoaxes, myths and miracles. Again I must say that atheism is not a belief that the proposition “God exists” is false anymore than it is a belief in the proposition that “Leprechauns exist” is false or the “Tooth Fairy” is false or “Santa Claus” is false. The conclusion can only be initiated by the premise; if the premise if false, we do not contend that we belief the premise is false; we contend that we do not believe in the conclusion. Because religion is such a failed science based on a failed belief system, as it was in the days of Zeus, the days of countless mythologies, the days of the Egyptian gods whose excavations reveal the material pots and pans for the next world are still sitting by the mummified corpses(but they believed) at every level, religionists want to drag atheists into the cauldron of belief because they don’t ant to have the bum rap alone. The fact is that atheism does not believe in a supernatural god; but, the reality is that without the religious zealots insistence of supernaturalism and other falsehoods(upon which all religion is based) there would be no need to be define atheism anymore than it would be to define the phrase: “I don’t believe it”. Not a belief but a rational, logical, reasonable, intelligent discernment that the laws of physics are not suspended to accommodate religious insanity.
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March 19, 2013 at 9:15 am
Well Leonardo, I guess my whole existence is a lie then. I have seen specters at the time of my grandfather’s death. I was blown out of the path of an oncoming car and I saw the angel doing it. I have been prompted so many times about what was about to happen in my life I can’t count them anymore. I have been able to see the wrong people do in visions. My whole life and those around me have no choice but to believe. While I can’t tell you factually 100% of the Bible is true, I can tell you that through my life experiences I can verify about 30%. That being said, I can readily accept the other 70% as true because of the parts I can prove. I have wept for humanity so many times now because God has put me in a unique place where I know the Bible is His word. The concepts taught in the Bible are the absolute best way to live. But, we chose to not believe. So many times I have contemplated these three words; “What is truth?” For years, everyone believed the world was flat. The truth was the world was round. The truth is still the truth no matter what we people believe. I can’t tell you why God has replaced most of my faith with proof that it’s all the real. I only know that’s what God has done to me. While I am going to post this, you are probably going to respond with more of your version of the truth. While you may want to believe you are spouting the truth, I will ask you; “What is truth?” I am real sorry that it’s not your version. If your version were correct, I could do a few things I don’t do because I know “What is truth?” People may follow someone they like or think is a good leader. This happens all of the time throughout the ages. I don’t know anyone that would gladly lay down their life for someone they like or thought was a good leader. No, the fact that the Apostles all willingly laid down their life except John tells me there was something more there than good leader or being well liked with Jesus. You can respond if you like, but I am not going to respond back. I know from experience where this all goes. It turns into a squabble and then gets heated. I’ve said what I had to say. If you don’t believe me that I have seen these things in my life, I’m sorry for you. I can live with it though. My whole life is being around people that think I’m lying about everything. Most people end up dealing with me when they say to me; “I believe that you believe it’s true! But, just because you think it’s true doesn’t automatically make is true.” I’ve seen and been told things spiritually. These things I have seen and been told come from somewhere. I believe it is the Holy Spirit showing me these things. But, to many I am slightly crazy or lying. Again, I ask you “What is truth”. Good luck to you after your heart beats for the last time.
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March 19, 2013 at 10:48 am
“What is Truth”?
Truth is the compelling acceptance of the brain based on Memory(the Spirit Guide) gleaning from a bundle of experiences of the 7 Senses, neurons firing in genetic controlled pathway sequences and sometimes genetically uncontrolled pathways and mutations, proteins and protein and vital vitamin deficiencies, drugs, over saturation and under nourished nutrients, religion, ritualism, reptile brain function, belief, emotion, hormones, wish, hope, desire, anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego; along with, joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith.
Placebo seems to work for some people and hypnosis on others.
The Bible is fairly accurate in its accounts of religious history, laws and the like but when it comes to Myths, Miracles, Magic one needs to take the bible in the context of supernaturalism, creative concepts and common sense. We know that the universal laws of physics are not suspended to accommodate clergy designed and word of mouth promoted miracles.
The Mind is a powerful force and auditory hallucinations for example are real voices that the brain hears but science has revealed that auditory hallucinations occur in people at the same time as imperceptible sound but electric vibrations are generated and recorded in the subject’s throat and of course we all know that hearing takes place in the brain and not in the ears of the mechanical process. Thus it is concluded that auditory perception sometimes comes directly from the person’s own throat activity(larynx-vocal chords) but no sounds are audible to anyone else.
There are also documentaries of people who actually perceive visual colors when they hear sounds; it was rather amusing to note that when one such person was introduced to another who also experienced visual colors when hearing sounds went to a music concert together; imagine watching a light show in your brain when listening to an opera or piano recital!
While there are anomalies in the human experience that only a few people hear, see, understand, we don’t attribute them necessarily to the supernatural. Whatever is true about our ethical and spiritual circumstance in ethical and spiritual terms is discoverable now. And can be articulated without offending all that we have come to understand about the nature of the universe. And certainly without making divisive claims about the unique sanctity of any book, or pegging these most beautiful features of our lives to rumors of ancient miracles.
It’s commonly imagined that atheists think there’s nothing beyond human life and human understanding. The truth is that atheists are free to admit that there’s much about the universe that we don’t understand. I mean it is obvious that we don’t understand the universe. But it is even more obvious that neither the bible nor the koran reflects our best understanding. There could be life on other planets, complex life, technically accomplished civilizations, I mean just imagine a civilization a million years old as opposed to just a few thousand, atheists are free to imagine this possibility.
They’re also free to admit that if such brilliant extraterrestrials exist, the bible and the koran are going to be even less impressive to them than they are to human atheists.
You see religion on a hundred fronts losing the argument with science. On the front of human health and disease; you know, it use to be that you could get a diagnosis of demonic possession, I mean that was a reasonable thing to believe you had if you were having seizures but now we have the science of neurology and we know about epilepsy so now when your kid has seizures, you know you don’t go to the church to get him diagnosed and treated by exorcism and so that’s a good thing.
I imagine that you have had your share of derision but I will not deride you because of your experiences; I think some people have special abilities and perceive events in ways most of us can not and some people have special gifts that we do not understand but I would never mock anyone for their true identities anymore than Jesus would have.
Jesus did however take issue with the clergy of his time who are hardly any different today from where I sit. Just read what Jesus rattled of about the Clergy in his 8 fold “Woe to you” Indictment of the Scribes & Pharisees whose very human experience was one of manufactured deceit and deception imparting nonsense to the masses under the guise of supernaturalism, exercising nonsense control, as still perpetuated today in religious circles.
One time in my university studies of clinical and social psychology we had practicums at the State Mental Hospital. While on a solo visit one day I ended the visit and pressed the button for the elevator down to ground level. To my shock and amazement I heard, as plainly as any male voice, “You can go no further”. In perplexed awe, I scanned the ceiling and around the walls looking for a speaker to explain the voice thinking that it was a tactic of the administration to deter patients from taking the elevator to ground level.
Before leaving the building I went to the washroom and was in the stall when the paranoia of the event threw me for a loop. I heard someone entering the washroom and going into the stall adjacent to mine; momentarily, the man asked “Do you have the time”; I think my reptile brain went into action. Not wanting to speak to this stranger for the fear I was having my reptile brain made an immediate excuse and I took out a pen and a piece of paper and wrote “Sorry but I am deaf” and passed it under the stall wall.
Later I told this story to some people but had not told them where this took place; when they asked me where it was and I replied the State Mental Asylum, they burst out as one howling in laughter for hours afterward and couldn’t stop laughing as the tears were rolling down their faces. How silly that was; an example of how my own experience caught me totally off guard and rendered me scratching my proverbial head as it were.
I was always curious about that, “You can go no further” voice until I read about the electrical impulses recorded in auditory subject’s throats when they were having auditory hallucinations and then accepted the fact that I was probably talking to my self without speaking but heard my own voice in my brain is a weird quirk of, I don’t know what.
Thank you for your comment. I appreciated it.
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March 19, 2013 at 4:01 pm
I said I wasn’t going to respond but real quick, I am not a fan of the religious. They really don’t get it. There is a creator and all He wants is a relationship with us. Religious people want to make it all about rules and customs. Jesus was right with the whole whoa unto you routine.
My mom has stories of me spouting off things I couldn’t know even when I was a very little kid of about three years old. Since then, there are hundreds of stories. I’ll share one example with you. I stopped traffic with my car about six years ago on a major highway. As I did it, the people in back of me were furious. I know I got the finger and one lady was really hot with me. I was in a full sized cargo van. So, I had a car big enough to stop traffic. As I did this, a car flew on to the highway from a ramp. With the traffic just stopped, the car cut in front of all of us and smashed into the medium. The driver’s side door popped open and the driver fell onto the highway all bloody. He looked at all of us and just said; “Where’s the broad?” The lady that was extremely agitated with me looked at me and said; “You knew to stop all of us. I want to know how you knew” I told her; “Lady, you don’t want to know”. The lady then told the whole crowd; “This man stopped us. If he hadn’t, some us would have been smashed by this drunk!” Leonardo, when I tell you there are enough stories in my life like this, I am not lying to you. I also can ask you how is this a hallucination?
When I mentioned the specter in my grandfather’s room, it was three hours before his massive heart attack. My grandfather was only 62 and we flew kites that day. It was not as if he were sick. The day he died was April 11, 1971. If you look it up, you will see that was Easter that year. What I also didn’t mention was the anniversary clock in his bedroom stop at his exact time of death. My grandfather died at the hospital and no one was in my grandparent’s house to stop the clock or any funny business.
Leonardo, if those two stories were my only claim on this issue, I could see your point and even agree with you. I was raised Catholic and I am still not a big fan of the Catholic Church. They have done a great job making non-believers out of a lot of people. But, for whatever reason, I have hundreds of stories like that including several trips to Heaven. Oh and guess what, those trips to Heaven match a lot of other people’s claims about what Heaven looks like.
I’m going to agree with you that our minds are a very power thing. There’s much more to our minds than we yet know. I’ve thought about that a lot. Dogs and cats have taught me a lot. First off, I love animals and I always have dogs and cats around. Second off, most dogs will look to you and will submit to you as their master. In return, you take care of them. I look at us having that relationship with God. Also, we are much smarter that a dog or a cat. Again, I think we are like that with God. Then I think there has to be a greater gap between God and us than with us and a dog or cat. So, while we think we are so smart and everything must follow the laws of nature, we still are learning more of the laws of nature. So, it is possible that the supernatural is really only a part of nature we have yet to understand. Also with a dog or cat compared to their wild cousins, wolves or cougars are very precise with their paw prints. Their back leg hits exactly where their front paw hits. Dogs and cats do not do that. I observed that this winter with my dog and some raccoon tracks in the snow. The raccoon tracks were precise. My dog’s prints were not. Why bring this up? This generation is so far removed from Biblical times and the prophets that we tend to think it is a bunch of ancient hogwash. We have become like modern day dogs and cats. We have become sloppy with the spiritual part of who we are and what we were meant to be.
Daniel taught the magi to look for an extremely subtle sign to look for Jesus. And, he got them to wait for 500 years. That isn’t going to happen today! With all of our city lights, we wouldn’t even catch the sign. Somehow, there is a group of us that have a frequency that tunes into God. I am finding more people like me and it is a relief that there is an explanation and these things do happen to other people.
We have all come to the same conclusion. It is God interacting with us. You brought up other planets. Do I think there are other civilizations out there? The odds of it not being true would be astronomical. Why couldn’t God come up with another group in His image and try again? Can’t we have multiple children? All God would have to do is keep them far enough apart in the universe. It’s big enough!
One last thing, you might think of me with a religious bend my whole life. That’s not true! I purposely stayed away from God and most of my family did too! My brother was an atheist and he pulled his kids from all organized religion. We were all kind of scared straight. Remember I am only telling you the tip of the iceberg. My atheist brother said it best. He said; “How many things like what we are witnessing can we witness before we break down and admit it God?”
God gave me a free pass to Heaven. It was a very great gift from a God that must love me very much. My brother is no longer an atheist and is very active in his church. For me, church activity is a highlight of my week. Yet, I know to keep a very close eye on church people. My parents are now starting to have the spiritual activity start with them. My father is starting to come around. Yes, we are very luck to witness this stuff first hand. It does truly make it easier to believe. But, I tell everyone God is real and Leonardo, He loves you very much. If you soften your heart to this fact just a pinch, God will get in there and I know someday you will believe too. But, only if you want! That’s God!
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March 19, 2013 at 5:04 pm
Joel:
There are people who are convinced they were abducted by aliens. I am not an atheist without religious background; I was a seeker all my life since I was 12 years old. But I never had a belief system even as a kid I always knew that Santa was an invention, the tooth fairy etc. As a kid I never got Christmas gifts because I knew Santa did not exist and the adults knew I knew so the Santa gifts went to my brothers; I didn’t mind, it just seemed normal. For some reason there was reason within.
Jesus is a hero to me and scriptures crop into my mind as appropriate lots of times, like when I argue with myself about whether or not to lock the house or the car when I go into a shop or mall until the scripture:”But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.”, comes to mind, So I lock the door. This I know pales in comparison with your own experiences.
As far as heaven goes, Jesus said “Unto what is the kingdom of God like? and whereunto shall I resemble it?” It is the growth of the spirit like the mustard seed, it is within you, it does not come with observation, flesh and blood can not enter the Kingdom and if anyone says lo here or lo there, do not follow them “Men cannot say, ‘Look, here it is’, or ‘there it is’, for the kingdom of God is inside you.”
Now if the Kingdom is inside you then where do you think you went to visit heaven?
Take care and know that God is the Caricature Concept of Good and therefore I say to you Good is inside of you and I like to quote the Cherokee Legend:
CHEROKEE LEGEND:
CHIEF: A fight is going on inside every other person between two wolves. One is evil; he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego. The other is good; he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith.
GRANDSON: Which wolf will win?
CHIEF: The one you feed.
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March 19, 2013 at 5:06 pm
A young lady came home from a date, rather sad. She told her mother,
“Jeff proposed to me an hour ago.”
“Then why are you so sad?” her mother asked.
“Because he told me he was an atheist. Mom, he doesn’t even
believe there’s a hell.”
Her mother replied, “Marry him anyway. Between the two of us,
we’ll show him how wrong he is.”
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March 19, 2013 at 5:09 pm
Transcript of a radio conversation between the British Believer and the Irish Atheist off the coast of Kerry, released by the Chief of Naval Operations 10-10-98.
ATHEIST: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.
BELIEVER: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision.
ATHEIST: Negative. You will have to divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.
BELIEVER: This is the Captain of a British navy ship. YOU will divert YOUR course.
ATHEIST: Negative. You will have to divert YOUR course.
BELIEVER: This is the aircraft carrier HMS Britannia! The second largest ship in the British atlantic fleet. We are accompanied by three destroyers, three cruisers and numerous support vessels. I demand that you change your course 15 degrees North or counter measures will be undertaken to ensure the safety of this ship.
ATHEIST:We are a lighthouse.Your call.
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March 31, 2013 at 8:23 pm
HMSS Titanic:
Captain: Non-sense this ship is unsinkable
Warning: Other ships have encountered icebergs
Captain: Full speed ahead
Message: Don’t ignore what other warn you of.
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April 1, 2013 at 7:46 am
Leonardo, don’t be surprised when (resurrected) Alexander the Great rules over you. Google ‘Word 4 Today’. There a resurrection video on there. Check it out.
You, too, Jason.
wayne.myers916@yahoo.com
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April 1, 2013 at 12:34 pm
Jay:
Here’s one for you about ships on the sea: A real transmission.
Transcript of a radio conversation between the British Believer and the Irish Atheist off the coast of Kerry, released by the Chief of Naval Operations 10-10-98.
ATHEIST: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.
BELIEVER: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision.
ATHEIST: Negative. You will have to divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.
BELIEVER: This is the Captain of a British navy ship. YOU will divert YOUR course.
ATHEIST: Negative. You will have to divert YOUR course.
BELIEVER: This is the aircraft carrier HMS Britannia! The second largest ship in the British atlantic fleet. We are accompanied by three destroyers, three cruisers and numerous support vessels. I demand that you change your course 15 degrees North or counter measures will be undertaken to ensure the safety of this ship.
ATHEIST: We are a lighthouse.Your call.
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April 1, 2013 at 1:29 pm
Wayne Myers: Thank you for your comment, I did look at your resurrection suggestion: “Fact or Fiction” but of course as all religious explanations of miraculous events it is based on false premises and therefore the conclusion must necessarily be false.
The Resurrection myth is as ludicrous as a man walking on water while others sink around him; no miracle just common sense!
as ludicrous as snatching loaves and fishes out of thin air; no miracle, just common sense!
as hocus pocus as an angel of the Lord leading the Exodus by night with a pillar of light and by day with a pillar of cloud so they more than 600,000 thousand men not counting women and children under 20 yrs and a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle; and they travelled 24/7; no miracle just common sense!
The rolling away of the stone on its own is as easy to recreate as it was ingenious to design and pull off 2000 years ago and someday I shall reveal to the world exactly how that was accomplished. But indoctrinated believers in religious insanity find it difficult to accept truth as authority rather than authority as truth; they will refuse to accept logic and reason preferring instead the darkness of their own imagination from where myth, magic and miracles were birthed. No miracle just common sense!
Magic and trickery is still done today by people like David Copperfield and Criss Angel Mindfreak but today we know better than to accept the clever tricks as supernatural phenomena.
For those who have understanding no explanation is necessary; for those without understanding no explanation is possible.
People think my explanation of magic tricks is outrageous while their belief in the suspension of the Laws of Physics or a command to fetch urns of water that mysteriously turned into wine because the wedding party ran dry to accommodate religious insanity, is perfectly okay. Go figure…..
I don’t care how much the Stone weighed, I can move it as easily as if there was an invisible wagon train of horses pulling it away which of course would have scared the daylights out of the musclemen in the Roman guard. NO miracle just common sense!
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May 29, 2013 at 1:07 am
Hello all, in reference to a previous post about who Jesus Christ was, he said exactly who he was, which was the very reason he was put to death.
He said he was the Son of God, making himself equal to God the Father. He claimed “I am” and to the Samaritan said “I am he” (the messiah). He has authority to judge. He said you must be born again of water and the Spirit, and John the baptist testified it is Christ whom baptises with the Holy Spirit.
God sent his Son not to condemn but to save, but people loved darkness instead of the light, and they stand condemned since they rejected Gods only Son. But any who believe that he is who he is will live. I know its true because my very heart was changed when I cried out to God and believed in His Son and asked for forgiveness.
If someone says Jesus Christ is Only a teacher, then that person is saying (directly or indirectly) Jesus must either be a liar or crazy (liars and insane people are not good teachers). But He DID make those claims that He is, and He wants your heart, not meaningless motions. A lot of religious folk will be surprised on the day of judgment. With the amazing love and mercy and compassion and healing and forgiveness and discipline I have experienced from my Lord Jesus, also is the great wrath of the slain lamb that will befall everyone if they are not saved, because God does indeed hate sin, and we are all sinners. We have all done wrong, and if not we were born into it. There is no longer any excuse. But He loves us and patiently waits for any to come to Him. – a bad broken individual saved 3 years ago –
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May 29, 2013 at 10:27 pm
thomas you are exuding supernatural, religious talking points that mean nothing to anyone except believers. So what are you saying that has not been said over and over and over again for the last ten thousand centuries? The same rhetoric that was said of Zeus, of Odin. etc….you offer nothing to the debate.
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May 29, 2013 at 10:54 pm
Hello,
Someone said that Bible says Jesus Christ was only a good teacher. I left that post to inform him that statement is incorrect. The Bible is all about Jesus Christ and that he is the same as God, the full deity of God in body that took sin of the world.
You have heard it again now and if you reject him, you no longer have any excuse, for you have rejected the light that came into the world. But God is patient and waits for those he calls to him.
Even many who saw him do the things he did still rejected him. But it is what it is. Your days are running out, and you are guilty of wrongdoing just as I am.
I will not try to prove anything to you, your choice, and you will have to pay the cost of your actions if not found in Him. Christ will be the judge. He already has victory. The only thing left for the rest is the wages of their sin which is death, for God is good and his character is Holy, he will not tolerate evil. But not my place to condemn, so i dont, because Christ came to save.
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June 8, 2013 at 3:15 am
Major follows some sports, primarily during the playoffs.
Just last year Apple sold more than one hundred
million i – Phone and i – Pad apps. Making your
game play is the next phase you’ll be focusing on.
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July 25, 2013 at 11:10 am
Thomas:
If the wages of sin is death why do Christians claim Jesus was sinless and yet died?
I’ll tell you why. Because sin is what other people tell you, you are doing that they don’t like, that they disagree with or that they hate you because of the way you behave which they perceive to be sin according to the pseudo-righteousness they are indoctrinated with by the society into which they are born.
Without sin I am sinless, as soon as I am in contact with other people, especially the family, I am soon made aware of the sins it seems, I am suddenly full of.
That’s why Jesus was crucified, not for the sins by his commission necessarily but by the self righteousness of others claiming Jesus sinned against their perception of sin was/is. Their sin was having a myopic view of the world from a skewed religious/cultural predisposition of indoctrination. The world today is no different.
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July 25, 2013 at 11:15 am
Sylvester:
Is your sports/apple/game play speak, some form of code for Christians regarding the size of the Stone covering Jesus’ Tomb? Because I just can’t seem to decipher it; might it be that I am atheist and can’t understand your christianspeake?
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July 27, 2013 at 1:10 am
A cake shaped as a princess castle for the pretty little
girl turning six or a replica of Scooby Doo for the cute
little boy celebrating his third birthday or a sneaker-shaped cake for
the shoe-lover husband or delicious brownies shaped as stars for visiting relatives can be done with these specialty
cake pans. Second A good wedding cakes designer will ask for many details of your
big day as possible to him or her to help herself to have a
few ideas right. This way, a slice can be removed
from the freezer, defrosted, and eaten whenever the urge for birthday cake hits.
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July 27, 2013 at 1:27 am
Sin is transgression of the law. Christ covers ones sin, it is not by being perfect that one is saved, Christ did die, but he rose again; now in him those saved by him live. You and I are both guilty of wrongdoing. As Christ himself said no one takes his life, he has the right to lay down his life, and he has the right to take it back again. He was put on the cross because of what he claimed – which the religious folk of the day said was blasphemy, it was said “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”. Jesus Christ is God’s son, and that is why he can do that to save us, because he is sinless; and he covers what we deserve… if we believe he is who he is. If a person will not, then that person must cover the penalty themselves..
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July 27, 2013 at 7:06 am
What’s with the cake cake shaped as a princess castle, a replica of Scooby Doo….?
Is this some Christian Ceremonial Code?
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July 27, 2013 at 7:28 am
Thomas you think sin is the transgression of the Law but forget the fact that the Law being transgressed depends on who is offended enough by what you do to incur their idea of what your transgression is against their perception of the Law. Jesus was sinning because they, the Pharisees, claimed he committed blasphemy. The clergy of Jesus’ day is no different than the clergy today who claim 9/11 was caused by the sins of America, or the wrath of vengeance will come upon the LGBT Community for their sins etc and etc.
Even Jesus acknowledged that sins are what other people say you do that offends their sense of righteousness and their perception of “transgression of the Law in the following example:
“How can I account for this generation (of hierarchy and self righteous clergy)? They have been like spoiled children whining to their parents, ‘We wanted to skip rope, and you were always too tired; we wanted to talk, but you were always too busy.’ John came fasting and they called him crazy. I came feasting and they called me a lush, a friend of the riffraff. Opinion polls don’t count for much, do they? The proof of the pudding is in the eating.”
AND
But whereunto shall I liken this generation (of fraudulent religious scoundrels)? It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows, And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned unto you, and ye have not lamented. For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil. The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners.
Sin then, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder except in academia so beware of the trappings of literal translations in your quick quotes from the bible.
In many cases “You and I are both guilty of wrongdoing” because of the perception of others, without doing anything at all. “But wisdom is justified of her children.”
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July 27, 2013 at 9:46 am
Transgression of God’s law, not yours or mine. No matter how good you may try to be, you fall short. You are guilty, just as I am. Your time is running out, just as mine is. My hope is reassured. My hope is in the Christ and I will be raised up again and back to life for His glory, because the Christ was raised up and back to life; He defeated death. Jesus Christ, is the ONLY way, not religion. Where does your hope lie? Is your hope that God is dead? Since God the Father is alive, the day will come when everyone will be held responsible for the things they have done.
No one can make someone believe, but I do wish you the best in this world. Take care!
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July 27, 2013 at 10:45 am
Thomas, belief is not for me any more than it was for Jesus. The Father is alive in me and I am responsible everyday in everyway for what I do, not in the there and after, in the here and now.
Everything you speak is from religion and nothing you speak is from your self-understanding because you have been indoctrinated by thousands of years of supernatural myth, magic and miracles since the burning bush. You should read Proverbs on Understanding and Knowledge and Wisdom. Jesus believed none of the things you are regurgitating, none of it and that’s why religionists of his day hated him just as I can witness today when trying to talk sense and reason to those brainwashed by religious jargon.
It’s all well and good for you to say that it is not about religion but in fact everything you say is ALL ABOUT RELIGION. Everything you speak about is religion’s talking points and religion’s spin on the bible. It was religion that put the books of the bible together at the Nicene Council Convention in 325 CE and it was religion that chose which books went in and which books stayed out; for sure the books that stayed out did not support Church Dogma which was the sole criterion of the Council to accept or reject books and upon which decisions were entirely based.
The Pharisees were also condemning Jesus for transgression of God’s Law, not yours or mine too but they were wrong then and you are wrong now. All laws derive from a person with the exception of the Universal Laws of Physics, Laws of Nature, Laws of the Universe of which the clergy would have you “believe” that even those laws are suspended to accommodate their supernatural fabricated nonsense of miracles.
Jesus legacy to the world was through his life not through his death as the clergy would have you indoctrinated with.
Jesus was not raised back to life, Jesus was nourished back to health after the crucifixion ordeal and escaped from the tomb through a well planned and organized method.
Nobody has ever been raised from the dead after they were actually dead regardless of what the bible says because the bible is wrong about Lazarus, wrong about Jesus and wrong about the oft toted miracles.
You may be persuaded by magic, sleight of hand and ludicrous nonsense perpetuated by clergy but I am not and scare tactics and fear tactics are part of the fabricated nonsense too; that is the way religion thrives.
When Jesus appeared to the disciples was he in body form or in spirit form? Which do you believe he showed himself?
There are real answers in the bible but you have to search for them without the myth of supernaturalism hanging off your neck; otherwise, you will never find knowledge and only knowledge will set you free, belief never can, no matter how much or how many of you believe. The supernatural exists only in religion and Hollywood.
I have no reason to think that your intentions are anything less than honourable and I believe that you are a good person so my will, is that you will, study the words of Jesus thoroughly enough to understand who he was, what he said and did, and why he did not accept religion or the clergy and why the clergy hated him for rejecting their ways. You can start by reading the 7 fold indictment of religion and the clergy in Matthew 23.
Take care and best regards.
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July 27, 2013 at 3:49 pm
Because you do not believe, is why you are not saved, because you will not believe that Christ is who he is. He Himself said that if you do not, you will die in your sins. Christ himself made these claims about himself. So He is either telling the truth, a liar, or crazy. You need to pick one of them. Christ, God’s only Son, is the same as the God the Father. They are one.
Only in the Son are you free, and if found in Him you are free indeed, otherwise you are a slave to sin, as I once was. That does not mean I am self-righteous. None-the-less, when God pulled me to Him and I believed in Christ, my heart was healed, and I live to show the world love and tell of this. Tough? Yes. It is tough to love those who hate you.
It is very often people will call someone stupid and tell them they do not understand, but Jesus Christ himself made the claims, and he did the things he did. He was raised from the dead, because that was what His Father wanted.
Many “religious people” do not know Christ. This is a fact, I see it on a regular basis. Churches and denominations do not save, only through Christ can salvation be found, if one asks for forgiveness for the wrongs they have done. You might think I am crazy, but the whole Bible is about Jesus Christ, Lord of Lords and King of Kings. As Christ set out to love those whom are lost, I try my best to do as my Lord did. Take care!
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May 4, 2014 at 10:25 am
this was very helpful far a paper i am writing, thank you for posting it!
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May 4, 2014 at 10:33 am
jason, your amazing, i now just read your posts, they make complete sense! im going to have to read from all your posts now!
matt.
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February 4, 2015 at 6:22 am
No one ever claimed “Iam the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me” Jesus Christ is Lord and will surely return to execute final judgement.
Let those who have ears hear what the Spirit of The Lord says.
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April 4, 2015 at 8:35 am
“Given the structure of such tombs, it would not have been possible for Jesus to simply push the stone over from the inside of the tomb. He would have to roll the 2000+ pound stone back up the groove without having anything to grip. Such a feat would not be possible for one healthy man, yet alone a man who had just been beaten to a bloody pulp by the Romans.”
Excuse me?! Know this well the King of Glory was not the man that was placed in the tomb. He was the Resurrected Son of God Who if He needed to could have smashed the stone to powder. No bloody pulp here. The stone was rolled back by an angel because Jesus was already gone. If He could appear in the upper room with out opening the door, I would think the same happened here. Bloody pulp, I find this amusing.
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April 4, 2015 at 11:25 am
Brad:
You have an active imagination but it certainly leaves you open also to the criticism that it is not very active at all. Why?
Well, first of all, the stone was designed to roll back by itself without human or angelic hands in the mix but you need a more active imagination to wonder how that could be and since you have not that power, you are lacking. So Think again.
Appearing in the upper room: Do you know in whose upper room the appearance was made? How about one of the wealthiest men in town who not only had an upper room but the mansion also had been contructed with safe rooms, secret entrances and exits and since that person was Jesus best friend, Jesus knew all the secrets of that mansions including how to get in and out through the scret passageways.
See? Activiate your imagination therefore and get out of the supernatural nonsense of religious insanity.
Thank goodness for the birth of Jesus whose messages in life were and are the inspiration of many good men who follow the obvious reasonable goodness contained therein.
Happy Holidays.
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April 5, 2015 at 6:08 pm
Historian Josephus commenred on Jesus and John
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April 5, 2015 at 6:13 pm
David:
I’m not sure what your point is about: “Historian Josephus commenred on Jesus and John”
I and others have also commented on Jesus and John so what does it mean do you think?
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April 15, 2015 at 8:14 am
May God have mercy on all who are blind in their hearts to the true gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Just as Jesus prayed on the cross of Calvary “Father forgive them for they know not what they do”.
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April 15, 2015 at 11:12 am
patricia:
I wonder what you think the true gospel (message) of Jesus is?
And can you please define the God you implore to have “mercy on all”?
What would that mercy be like?
And what do you think will happen “to those who are blind in their heart” without the mercy you envision?
Just a note about Calvary FYI:
When the King James Version was written, the translators used an anglicised version — Calvary — of the Latin gloss from the Vulgate (Calvariæ), to refer to Golgotha in the Gospel of Luke, rather than translate it; subsequent uses of Calvary stem from this single translation decision. The location itself is mentioned in all four canonical Gospels:
Mark: And they brought him to the place called Gol’gotha (which means the place of a skull).
Matthew: And when they came to a place called Gol’gotha (which means the place of a skull).
Luke: And when they came to the place which is called The Skull, there they crucified him, and the criminals, one on the right and one on the left.
John: So they took Jesus, and he went out, bearing his own cross, to the place called the place of a skull, which is called in Hebrew Gol’gotha.
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April 15, 2015 at 1:28 pm
It is the rolling stone cover of Chris that made the pope retire predicting the costliest natural disaster ever in the history of mankind to world leaders from seven emails in seven languages before the Mesa Police arrested him and incarcerated him teen working days for his one word answer to the question, “are you the messiah?” ending a week before the same police department burning him at the stake hogtied nailed down to a stove with four hundred pounds of cop on the back of the spatula a week before the actual crucifixion on father’s day in sun city That was far less painful waterboarding techniques for a cup of piss thought worth millions in savings for the city of mesa and the destruction of evidence of the burn assault. I made the pope retire. Don’t doubt me. Go to Google and type MADE THE POPE RETIRE then press the button
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June 6, 2015 at 2:46 pm
Love the information
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March 24, 2016 at 2:29 am
[…] The Size of the Stone Covering Jesus’ Tomb […]
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October 2, 2016 at 9:20 am
Thank you very much for this information, i needed to write a report for my conformation class about angles and this is just what i needed. 😀
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October 2, 2016 at 9:21 am
(Strength of angles)
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December 24, 2016 at 6:44 pm
That was a very good explanation of what I was looking for. Thank you so very much for that knowledge. God is real n so is Christ. I believe!
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March 10, 2017 at 9:47 pm
The stone over Jesus’s tomb was not the normal size. The Bible says it wax a very large stone!
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April 16, 2017 at 4:04 am
[…] topic, I found out that the rock was very heavy. On Jason’s blog that I read in Theosophical, the rock weighed about 1 to 2 tons. Could a man do this by himself? Not by any standards of […]
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November 28, 2017 at 8:25 pm
@Leonardo the Atheist 👉 http://www.nationalreview.com/article/434153/shroud-turin-christs-blood-both-there-and-sudarium-oviedo
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June 24, 2019 at 12:10 pm
[…] And most challenging factor, they recognized on the way to the tomb, according to verse 3 that they still had to contend with the stone. https://theosophical.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/the-size-of-the-stone-covering-jesus%E2%80%99-tomb-2/ […]
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January 10, 2020 at 3:17 pm
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April 11, 2020 at 3:41 pm
Thank yo so much for this information it will be helpful in my Sunday school class, i bet the children will be awed by the weight of the stone
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June 6, 2020 at 9:43 pm
[…] In my original answer to my brother-in-law I said that the writer of the tract/article offers no evidence for his/her claim about the equivalence of petros and petra. I must retract that; he/she did mention that one evangelical Evangelical Protestant Greek scholar admitted the equivalence of petros and petras, and that was D. A. Carson in The Expositor’s Bible Commentary. Then the author states that Lithos (λίθος) would have been the proper term for Jesus to use if he intended to call Peter “small rock,” but in reality lithos is used in Greek for many purposes, including the size of stone that sealed Jesus’s tomb (Mark 15:46), which was pretty big. […]
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April 4, 2021 at 9:42 am
One thing for sure for unbelievers is: When you die and are laid inside that dark, wet and cold cemetery and you are inside your coffin with all your beautiful clothes for eternity, your biblical beliefs you had while alive won’t matter anymore. I pray you would have come to our Almighty creator in repentance for your soul.
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April 11, 2021 at 3:19 am
Very good historic information which is more informative
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August 13, 2021 at 11:26 am
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The Size of the Stone Covering Jesus’ Tomb | Theo-sophical Ruminations
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December 20, 2021 at 8:57 pm
We must remember that YESHUA was beaten and tortured unrecognizable as a man, the Roman soldiers were very good at what they did when when it came to torture or death, so to those that say He was not resurrected and just revived seems a bit uninformed at least. Myself, I stand by the resurrection, Glory to GOD
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April 11, 2022 at 6:59 am
Jesus didn’t need to remove it. He could merely walk through; as in the upper room, with door locked, yet He came end stood among them and said ” peace be with you “.
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May 8, 2022 at 10:03 am
Most of what Jesus did is supernatural. believe in the supernatural and had encounter with demons and I believe Lord Jesus himself. Why believe only in a good man when he is truly the Son of God He claimed to be, you are missing out big time, my friend
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May 8, 2022 at 10:08 am
I* believe in the supernatural and had supernatural encounter before. I also believe in science but God is greater than sciene or your brilliant mind. God created it all. I believe we all will come to the question why am I here. who made the earth habitable. is it coincidence or is there a creator. this simple question even a 6 year old child can think of. why think that people are born atheist when you cant represent everyone? i write simple english, im not brilliant as you. but my experience said bible is really good to be taken literally. even 70 percent literal should be good. Jesus is God came as a man and he fulfilled the old testament prophecies and continue to transform people’s lives because He is risen and now seated in Heaven. He will receive everyone because He died for everyone but on his ‘literal’ second coming he will come as a Judge.
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August 24, 2022 at 9:17 pm
Every one has there own opinions, but just make sure that you read the bible before you say things about it.
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September 29, 2022 at 9:40 am
For those who believe that Jesus somehow survived the crucifixion, watch this video on the swoon theory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HOF8hCgwLA
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October 3, 2022 at 12:43 pm
Thanks to my master.what will I say if he did not rise from the dead.praise God he is risen and lives forevermore in my life.and the promise of God the Holy spirit is fulfilled.he will abide with us for ever.luke put the ascessin of Jesus Christ very well amen
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January 23, 2023 at 5:51 am
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