I have determined to start an official apologetics ministry. My first order of business was to create a name. I settled on “Thinking to Believe” (unless any of you can think of a better name), since this represents my conviction that thinking is vital to both the acquisition and growth of faith.
My second order of business was to work on a logo. I have come up with 20 different options. I covet your help in determining which one I will go with. I have numbered them 1-20. It would really be a help to me if you could tell me what you think are the top three, in order of your favorite, second favorite, and third favorite (just list the logo numbers).
Of course, if any of you are into design and want to take your own stab at it, that would be great as well. You can email me your work at jasondulle@yahoo.com. As you can see from the diversity present, I am open to different looks, but I prefer something that has an “intellectual aura” to it. I really like the medieval look (both letters and symbols/designs), so if you could come up with something along that line, that would be great. Thanks!
Option 1
Option 2
Option 3
Option 4
Option 5
Option 6
Option 7
Option 8
Option 9
Option 10
Option 11
Option 12
Option 13
Option 14
Option 15
Option 16
Option 17
Option 18
Option 19
Option 20
Option 21
Option 22
July 28, 2009 at 2:40 am
Hi,
1st = Option 4
2nd = Option 8 (although “something” missing I think (don’t ask me what though))
3rd = Option 7
I do like the + options, but just think its difficult to read the believe. Plus, you might get some conspiracy theories going round as it is an even armed cross (reading the Da Vinci Code at moment hence the realisation!) – Priory of the Sion and all that! 🙂
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July 28, 2009 at 6:00 am
I would immediately scrap options 13+, then nix everything with a drop-shadow. Next, scrap everything with the font, “Papyrus”, as it’s an overused stock Adobe font.

That narrows the playing field quite a bit.
I would then take the font from option 8, and keep the word, “Believe”, but change the font of, “Thinking to” to a clean, serif font like “Big Caslon” and right align them like this…
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July 28, 2009 at 6:05 am
Sorry, that was written a bit in haste. 🙂 I didn’t mean to come off sounding short! Good job taking a stab at the logo, Jason.
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July 28, 2009 at 6:35 am
I like #4, and it might be even better if you remove at least one of the crosses; maybe both, since the T’s already suggest that symbol. Frankly, I do not find any of the other options to be very appealing, but if I had to vote for two more, I would go with #9 and #1. As you can probably tell, I tend to prefer simplicity and clarity.
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July 28, 2009 at 8:18 am
Jay Jones – Wow! Like that quite a lot – could you put colour in it somewhere?? Such as believe in red?? Then it would win my vote! 🙂
Also agree with aletheist on removing the crosses – might look better.
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July 28, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Jason,
Very, very glad to hear this good news! Looking forward to what you’ve got coming.
As far as the logo goes, I really like Option 8, though I think it’d be cool to move the “to” to the top right above “believe” and make the “T” of “thinking” a large gothic/celtic cross or something like that. I’d try it myself but I don’t know what fonts you are using for Option 8…send me the file!
Later,
Chad
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July 28, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Jay, how in the world are you?! I haven’t heard from you since I was part of your forum years ago. The last I knew, the forum had closed. It looks like you are up and running again, but it is no longer a forum. Good for you. I hope you begin to visit me regularly from now on.
So far, 4 and 8 seem to be leading the pack.
My wife’s vote is for options 2 or 8. I’ve been leaning toward 2, 4, and 18 myself. I like 8. The only thing I have against it is that I know it is a “Western” font. When I see it, I think of cowboys and Indians. I like Jay’s reworking of it, but I would add back in the colored “to.” I also want to try the cross for the “T” in “Thinking.” Good suggestion Chad. I’ll send you the font so you can play around with it.
Keep ’em coming!
Jason
BTW, everyone does realize that the number of each logo is located above the logo, right? I wouldn’t want you to say “8” when you are really referring to “7.”
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July 28, 2009 at 5:16 pm
I just incorporated Jay and Chad’s feedback in regards to option 8, and added it as option 21. The “t” cross was the best example I have of a “t” that looks like a cross, but it does have a hook on the end. Do you think it looks good like that, or should I try to find a real cross?
Jason
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July 28, 2009 at 7:30 pm
I pick 2, then 12, then 4. I don’t like the ones with the words crossing, and “bi” and “tit” in orange.
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July 28, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Jason,
Great to chat once again. 🙂
Yes, I closed preachingpoints.com several years ago when my wife was ill and in the hospital… I just couldn’t keep up with it at the time. Last year I revived it as a preacher’s resource site, and am having a blast with it. I’ve been checking your blog out regularly, and have added your RSS feed to my Reader. Great stuff, man… I hope you keep it up!
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July 29, 2009 at 1:04 am
In option 21, try using the “T” from option 4. I don’t like the “T” in option 21. Also, any reason not to have the “Believe” in red??
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July 29, 2009 at 1:49 am
Scott,
I did use the “t” from option four: the lowercase “t” in the word “to.” It looks more like a cross than does the capital “T.”
As for making “believe” red, the color itself is not set in stone yet. I’ll play around with that once the design is set, but it’s unlikely to be red, as I am not a big fan of red.
Jason
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July 29, 2009 at 1:50 am
I found a true cross font that is decent, so I have swapped out the “t” in option 21 for a true cross in option 22. What are everyone’s thoughts on option 22?
Jason
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July 29, 2009 at 2:07 am
Is it possible to move it so the leg sits on same line as the h? and pull it across so the horiz. line goes over the h?? Just looks a little too far to left. Otherwise, better.
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July 29, 2009 at 8:41 am
Also, just a side issue, but it appears http://www.thinkingtobelieve.com is not taken 🙂
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July 29, 2009 at 12:51 pm
When you say “leg,” are you referring to the bottom of the cross?
Yes, I checked on the availability of that URL. I’m not sure if I’ll start a separate site for the ministry or not, but it would probably be a good idea to purchase it. I’m illiterate when it comes to these matters, so do you have any knowledge in regards to purchasing URLs?
Jason
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July 29, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Scott,
I adjusted the cross in option 22 so that it is closer to “hinking to”.
Jason
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July 29, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Jason,
A formal apologetics ministry is exactly what I have been anticipating hear you say (along with the release of an upcoming book release *ahem*).
1. Option 22
2. Option 21
3. Option 8
God Bless and good luck,
Dale
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July 30, 2009 at 1:02 am
I’m afraid I have no knowledge in these areas either! 😦
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July 30, 2009 at 2:05 am
22, 21, 2 in that order. Good luck on the new ministry!
Pentecostalblogger.com by Ryan
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July 30, 2009 at 2:18 am
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July 30, 2009 at 7:55 am
Jason,
Talked to my brother (computer geek) and he recommended this:
http://www.uk2.net/
And he organised our church’s website http://www.bidfordbaptistchurch.co.uk and he’s about to install “drupal” for it which is a CMS (Content Management System) which allows you to create a website with new content without ever coding html.
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July 30, 2009 at 7:57 am
1) option 12
2) option 10
3) option 8
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July 30, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Jason,
I like #4 & #12.
John
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July 30, 2009 at 10:39 pm
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July 31, 2009 at 1:07 am
I’d go with fireandsalt’s servers!
He knows more then me, plus, they’re probably based in th US!!
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July 31, 2009 at 6:38 pm
8
21
22
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August 31, 2009 at 9:01 am
I like evidential faith. lol Hmmmmmm…just saw this Jason. I like option 22. I would however change the color emphasis from “to” to either “thinking” or “believe”. As it sits the word “to” being shaded red emphasizes itself but “to” is probably not what you want emphasized here. Just my opinion. My wife does this fulltime at http://www.dylosh.com too if you want to check it out. I like 22 though out of the options listed.
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