What makes humans valuable? There are only two options: something inherent within the nature of humans themselves (intrinsic) or something acquired by humans (extrinsic). Things that are valuable in and of themselves for the sake of themselves have intrinsic value (love, friendship, health, happiness, virtue, etc.). Things that are valued for their function – what they do for us or how they allow us to obtain an intrinsic good (money) – have extrinsic value.
When it comes to bioethics, the great divide is between those who think human value is extrinsic (and many would add, subjective) and those who think human value is intrinsic and objective. Put another way, bioethicists are divided between the liberals who think human value is based on doing (extrinsic value) and conservatives who think human value is based on being (intrinsic value). Whereas liberals only value the functional expression of certain human capacities, conservatives value the being who possesses those innate capacities whether they are being expressed or not.
To Each His Own Burden
Liberal bioethicists who value the expression of certain human capacities need to explain why anyone else should agree with them that value resides in the functional expression of certain capacities rather than the possession of the capacities themselves. They also need to explain why the particular functions they identify as value-laden should be thought to have actual value. Why not some other set of functions? Indeed, why value any human functions at all?
Likewise, conservative bioethicists who value humans qua humans with their innate capacities need to explain what it is that makes humans actually valuable. On this point, conservative bioethicists are divided. Some argue that the existence of God is necessary to ground objective and intrinsic human value, while others think such a notion can be defended independent of the God question. Those who argue that the existence of God is not necessary to ground human exceptionalism typically argue for the objective, intrinsic moral value of human beings based on our exceptional abilities and moral capacities. While our amazing abilities and superior capacities certainly provide us with good reason to think we are special in the animal kingdom and should be treated differently from other animals, this does nothing to establish that our value is intrinsic and objective.
Even liberal bioethicists generally agree that humans are unique and special – and that we should be treated as such – but on their account human value is subjective and extrinsic. It is extrinsic because value resides in particular functions humans exhibit, not in the human person himself (or our natural capacity to express those functions). And it is subjective because it is humans who choose to value functions X, Y, and Z. In and of themselves, X, Y, and Z are just as valueless as A, B, and C, but because we find utilitarian value in X, Y, and Z, we invest them with value. If humans did not assign value to those functions, then they would lack value.
Conservative bioethicists who argue for human exceptionalism without reference to God, then, need to explain why our innate possession of various capacities such as moral agency, creativity, and rationality are morally and objectively valuable, such that anyone who has or exercises those capacities is valuable. What is the objective basis for making those the things that are objectively valuable? Where did they get your value-defining capacities list from, and why should anyone else adopt it as opposed to some other list or even no list at all?
It seems to me that if value is objective (real), then it must have a source that transcends human opinion. If X, Y, and Z are valuable only because we think they are, then their value is entirely subjective. To make sense of objective, intrinsic human value one must appeal to a source transcendent to human beings, from which humans derive their value. What is that source if not God?
While I think all conservatives and even liberal bioethicists can agree that we can apprehend the moral worth of human beings independent of belief in God (a deliverance of epistemology), the existence of God is necessary to make sense of objective human value (a deliverance of ontology). Apart from the existence of a God that made us in His image, there is no way to elevate human value beyond the instrumental and subjective. There can be no objective, intrinsic value apart from a transcendent Valuer who is intrinsically valuable, and from whom we derive value. If there is no transcendent Valuer of human beings such that they have value in virtue of the kind of beings they are, then there is no reason to value humans qua humans and there is no reason to value our capacity for X, Y, and Z rather than valuing the mere expression of X, Y, and Z. While one does not need to embrace theism to recognize human value, one does need to embrace theism to explain that which he recognizes.
July 16, 2012 at 11:35 am
Another moral argument, wow. Because only Christians know how to be good, and Atheists teach their kids to hate, and beat up little Christian kids, lmao. Groundless. Well worded, but no worthy point, IMO.
I’m one who believes in both. I believe we intrinsically know some moral values, and extrinsically learn values as well. Know matter whether God exists or not, it all comes down to the teaching. While some values, I believe, are instilled from birth, other values are learned along the way. Without the proper teaching, not all values will be learned. If it was all about God, we would all be born with this innate knowledge of right and wrong about everything, and we are not. We have to learn this as we grow. Whether we use the Bible, or a simple philosphy of right and wrong, it all comes down to the proper upbringing.
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July 16, 2012 at 11:40 am
Jason, this is not a moral argument. It’s an argument about the worth of human beings, and how to ground that ontologically.
Jason
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July 16, 2012 at 11:41 am
By the way, can I see your list of value defining capacities? Basically you are saying, I have a book and you don’t. Is there a list of values anywhere in the Bible? Has anyone ever put together this objective list of moral defining capacities? Why should I use that list and not some other list? Like say a list of values from the Quran, or a new age ethics book? What makes your morrally superior? Other than the faith approach, ‘I believe it came from God’, what makes your list superior?
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July 16, 2012 at 11:52 am
You are missing the point entirely. I don’t believe that our value is defined by our capacities. Capacities in themselves are value-less. While we can invest capacities with instrumental value based on their utility, the utility of our capacities is not enough to ground real human value–value that is intrinsic and objective.
So asking me for a list of capacities ignores the point of my post. There is no list. What gives humans value is that we are made in the image of God, plain and simple (our capacities merely reflect that fact, they do not constitute our value). He is valued for His own sake, thus we are also valuable since we bear His image.
Jason
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July 16, 2012 at 12:13 pm
So we can only see our value in the fact that we come from God? Why would we lose value if God did not exist? Saying we are made in the image of God is assigning properties to God that we cannot do without assumption. I believe in God, but not that the Bible comes from God, so I cannot assume any properties of God. I do not believe we are necessarily made in the image of God, physically or otherwise. Does that make me valueless? I guess it is hard for me to understand given my precarious position as an inbetweener.
It would seem to me that more explanation would be needed other than just we were made in the image of God. How does that in itself give us value? How is that specifically needed to give us value? Our image comes from the image we give ourselves, and that still holds value. Can we not get value from ourselves, just from the fact that we exist? Can life itself not give us value? Do you have to get value from something outside of the universe?
It seems to me like you are saying that we have to have something to put value in, in order to get value out, and that has to be God. I don’t understand why it has to be God specifically, and not something else, or nothing else. Or am I still missing the point?
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July 16, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Jason, but that ontology is still simple subjectivism: that there might be a divine enforcer does not make His code objective unless He discerns moral values as we do. That is, the independence as Plato notes, is real as you so state, but not that ontology: we still have to refine values and morals as we subject ourselves to new situations or even comprehend old ones.
My subjective-objective-inter-subjective ethic requires that we do refine our ideas about morality. Humanity has done so since Biblical times, so that we discover those objective-subjective values. They are subjective in that each of us sees them in our own minds, but we discuss matters,so that we have an inter-subjective basis for morality. Our considered judgments have to override our mere tastes and whims.
Maybe, I have a taste for enslaving others, but my moral sense overrides that evil. That, I find is objective as public discernment.
Now, this wide-reflective subjectivism-my term- has two more objective aspects- universal, applying to all and the principles of equity and equality.
Now, I’ve just learned that relativism can mean shades of grey to which I say yes.
Mine is similar to Richard Carrier’s goal theory.
Oh, amoralists and nihilists don’t care about any of our ethics, so we all cannot reach them!
Quaker Pres. Pres. Richard Nixon just distored his religious ethic! Had he not done the wrong, he’d be amongst the top presidents with his OSHA, EDA, EPA and the voluntary army!
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July 16, 2012 at 5:24 pm
I’m staying out of the direct debate but there was something you said that made me that struck me as odd. You said “It seems to me that if value is objective (real), then it must have a source that transcends human opinion. If X, Y, and Z are valuable only because we think they are, then their value is entirely subjective.”
But there’s a problem here. I think you, along with William Lane Craig, confuse the meaning of objective with ultimate. There can be objective meaning or significance or truth or value just by people agreeing upon it. That’s actually how most cultural and social truths are. Money has value because we pretend it does. People have human rights because we pretend they do. So under that view, what you’re trying to say is that the value is not ultimately significant if God does not exist. This is true. No atheist can deny that. But what atheists often miss, as does the rest of the world, is that nothing needs to have ultimate significance. If atheism is true, nothing has ultimate significance. Does that mean we shouldn’t enjoy life or it is any less enjoyable? Not necessarily. We can still give things, processes, etc. relative significance or value or truth and still utilize them properly. The assumption of ultimate significance misses the point entirely. It’s an emotional response to atheistic objections.
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July 17, 2012 at 7:10 am
Tafakori, thanks.
Why, no ultimate significance exists with or without God!What value might not endure for long but for the while it truly counts. What the Founders did by establishing our Constitution transcends that day and has overwhelming value for us now and as long as this republic exists. In ten million years, who would even remember it and by then the who could be another species of humans.
This post has value now but next month, who will remember it?
Charles Hartshorne claims that even though we would never enjoy the future state, God would have our memories! Supercilious speciousness! God has no relationship whatsoever with the values we have and how long they last.
” Life is its own validation and reward and ultimate meaning to which neither God nor the future state can further validate.” Inquiring Lynn
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July 18, 2012 at 8:24 am
Tafacory, surely that term “objective” means that it either is or isn’t. Your argument that “ultimate” and “objective” are being mis-used is, imo, flawed, as ultimate would imply subjective in an ultimate judge (ie God) whereas objective would be truth.
In regards to your analogy of money, it has no objective value. It only has subjective value based on the society. In fact, value in anything is subjective in your concept of “people agreeing” since if they stopped agreeing, the value would disappear.
If God exists, then either value is subjective based on God’s ultimate decision, or it is objective by God’s inate character.
While I would not deny the joys to be had in life, atheists who claim objective value or objective morals are using the theists worldview rather than their own. If you were to be rue to your worldview, you would have to claim that everything is subjective.
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July 18, 2012 at 3:19 pm
Hardly, because it is inverse to what you state as when theists use reason and facts to determine what is good or bad for sentient beings, they are using humanism! They rise above the simple egregious ethic of the Tanakh and the Qur’an! Telepathic God revealed neither scripture, but instead misanthropes use their tastes and whims for most of the morals! Ponder my earlier posts on covenant morality for humanity [I don’t do homework!].
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