Russia is experiencing a population problem. Putin has hired Boyz II Men ahead of Valentine’s Day to get the Russians in the mood for baby-making! As Daniel Halper at The Weekly Standard quipped, he should have hired a pro-life organization instead. In Russia, for every 10 babies born 13 more are aborted. That is a staggeringly high abortion rate (for comparison, in the U.S. “only” 2.5 babies are aborted for every 10 babies born). More babies are killed than born!
Russia will never fix its population problem until it fixes its culture of death that devalues unborn human life.
February 8, 2013 at 12:32 pm
Religion is responsible for all abortions worldwide and until religion gets out of peoples bedrooms and stops trying to control humanity’s sexuality the culture of death will persist. Contraception is more preferable over abortion.
I think abortion is wrong too but that doesn’t automatically transfer to non control of sexual desire. Sexual desire is uncontrollable, you may as well try to control the tides in the ocean. and everything on earth from mosquitoes, mice and men to animals, birds and bees. Not to mention bacteria, viruses and other pathogens. Just to give you an example, Lennox Lewis didn’t control his sexual desires when he and Violt did what comes naturally and she became pregnant.
I wouldn’t knock either Lennox or Violet Chang for for acting on the nature of their design although some prudish religious types would because they weren’t “married”. I do congratulate both him and Violet though for not not having an abortion beause they were not married. So his first son, Landon was born in 2004; they married in May 2005 and their second child was born in July 2006. Some people would call that a sin but I most certainly would not.
The main point I want to make is that every couple are subject to their natural design and there’s nothing wrong with that in my eyes from where I sit. So when the pregnancy happens and the abortion comes out of that, the blame is misplaced if one says it is the uncontrolled natural design; the blame is on the ones who decide after the pregnancy happens, mostly the woman but some men are also responsible for demanding it. So we congratualte Lennox and Violet; we don’t congratulate sexual desire.
In both cases sexual desire is natural and that’s the standard of of activity we are forced to obey just like every living creature on the planet; that’s the common denominator. It’s what peole do after the event happens that is really the problem. If Lennox and Violet would have had an abortion we couldn’t blame sexual desire then, anymore than we can congratulate sexual desire for letting the life happen. That’s the nature because life forces, life is from sexual desire, death is from abortion
I would argue that marriage is not natural; it is a law of man but I would also argue that love between partners who consummate that love is the real marriage that comes from within the scope of the design of nature like sexual desire. If that bond breaks and sexual desire seeks other outlets of expression, I don’t call that cheating either. Not every marriage is made in heaven. Those that are will remain; those that are not, will not. Even man’s law and the church’s attempt at discouraging contraceptives and yelling abstinence can’t control natural design anymore than they can put humpty dumpty back together again.
I am a prophet from the 80’s and the 90’s,
I see the trend of future come.
I see the dreams and visions for a bright tomorrow,
Hope will nurture up a rising son.
Turn the womb into a tomb
And say that choice is game,
To the unborn child you deny,
Even feels the pain,
But I can tell you this for sure,
It’s you and I before,
We were born. We were born,
You and yours justify,
What suits your fancy stock,
But who cares for the little ones,
The ones who cannot talk?
Some of us redeemed, remember,
Not so long ago,
We were born. We were born.
Although the world is full of chaos and confusion,
The joy of living hard to find,
Change is slowly taking over for the better,
Peace and life and all good things survive.
And our goal is worthy
Even from the start,
‘Cause we have out children,
To carry on the march,
Those of us preserving life,
Are thankful for the fact,
We were born. We were born.
So let the youth rise up and help their little brothers,
And sisters sleeping in their room,
Environment means clean and safety on the outside,
There should be no less in Mother’s womb.
We were born. We were born. Yes, You were born.
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February 8, 2013 at 11:53 pm
Leo, your comments and assertions are severely misplaced. Just a couple as examples:
“Religion is responsible for all abortions worldwide…”
Nonsense. China and Russia, which are both mostly, if not completely secular nations, lead the world in abortions. Especially China, were abortions and infanticide is due to cultural son preference and the one child only policy, has nothing at all to do with religion. And apart from that, since most religions, especially Christianity, are pro-life, even anti-abortion, if anything, such influence should be lowering the numbers of abortions in the world, but it’s not. So lay the blame somewhere else.
“Sexual desire is uncontrollable…”
While the desire within may be difficult or even impossible for some to control, acting upon it is completely within the control of all people everywhere. Even a so-called addict can keep themselves from impregnating-level intercourse, even while pursuing other forms of sexual activity. So the fact that people are acting on their desire for sex is a choice not governed by nature.
“Even man’s law and the church’s attempt at discouraging contraceptives…”
Only the Catholic church makes any real effort at dissuading members from using contraceptives. But guess what, of the all the religionists in the world, including non-Christians, most have no official policy on the matter.
Hinduism, of which there is at least close to a billion adherents in the world, have no policy. Muslims have no edict or degree within the Koran banning contraceptives. That’s another billion or so religionists.
Of the approximately two billion Christians in the world, more than a billion are non-Catholics with no official position, let alone a mechanism for enforcing a no contraceptives policy. Of the less than billion Catholics, while the Vatican has an official position, millions and millions of professing Catholics everywhere don’t care one bit about what the official position is.
This adds up to over 3 billions religious people in the world that could give a rip about contraceptive prohibition. Factor in all the non-religious people who also don’t care about not using them and you have an overwhelming majority of people in the world, at least half of the world’s population, if not more, that are more than willing, if they want, to use contraceptives, but don’t. They have no guilt complex about their use, and feel no pressure whatsoever to make use of them. Many just choose not to, even if it leads to the possibility of pregnancy and a choice to abort.
These are all established facts that contradict your statements. So, care to retract?
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February 9, 2013 at 5:40 pm
Votivesoul:
There are very few things in this world that have not been under the direct influence of religion and/or religious-like societies(North Korea and other countries who operate like and whose dictates are, too much like religion)
From my point of view, this world would be much more civilized if religion was not so influential in every aspect of other people’s private lives. With that in mind I will retract my statement that religion is responsible for all abortions worldwide with the caveat that religion is responsible for all deaths worldwide pre and post birth alike. Thanks.
When religious positions on abortion are discussed, we usually hear how abortion is condemned and regarded as murder. Religious traditions are more pluralistic and varied than that, however, and even within those religions most publicly opposed to abortion, we find that there are traditions which would permit abortion, even if only in limited circumstances. It’s important to understand these traditions because not every religion regards abortion as a simplistic, black & white decision.
Roman Catholicism & Abortion:
Roman Catholicism is popularly associated with a strict anti-abortion position, but this strictness only dates to Pope Pius XI’s 1930 encyclical Casti Connubii. Before this, there was more debate on abortion. The Bible doesn’t condemn abortion and Church tradition rarely addresses it. Early church theologians generally allow abortion in the first 3 months and prior to quickening, when the soul supposedly entered the fetus. For a long time, the Vatican refused to issue a binding position.
Protestant Christianity & Abortion:
Protestantism is perhaps one of the most diffuse and de-centralized religious traditions in the world. There is almost nothing that isn’t true of some denomination somewhere. Vocal, vociferous opposition to abortion is common in Protestant circles but support for abortion rights is also common — it’s just not as loud. There is no single Protesant position on abortion, but Protestants who oppose abortion sometimes portray themselves as the only true Christians.
Judaism & Abortion:
Ancient Judaism was naturally pro-natalist, but without a central authority dictating orthodox beliefs, there has been vigorous debate on abortion. The only scriptural mention of anything like an abortion does not treat it as murder. Jewish tradition allows for abortion for the sake of the mother because there is no soul in the first 40 days, and even in the latter stages of pregnancy, the fetus has a lower moral status than the mother. In some cases, it may even be a mitzvah, or sacred duty.
Islam & Abortion:
Many conservative Muslim theologians condemn abortion, but there is ample room in Islamic tradition for permitting it. Where Muslim teachings do allow for abortion, it is generally limited to the early stages of pregnancy and only on the condition that there are very good reasons for it — frivolous reasons are not allowed. Even later abortions may be permitted, but only if it can be described as the lesser evil — that is to say, if not having an abortion would lead to a worse situation.
Buddhism & Abortion:
Buddhist belief in reincarnation leads to belief that life begins at the moment of conception. This naturally inclines Buddhism against allowing abortion. Taking the life of any living thing is generally condemned in Buddhism, so of course killing a fetus would not meet with easy approval. There are, however, exceptions — there are different levels of life and not all life is equal. Abortion to save the life of the mother or if not done for selfish and hateful reasons is permissible.
Hinduism & Abortion:
Most Hindu texts that mention abortion condemn it in no uncertain terms. Because the fetus is endowed with divine spirit, abortion is treated as an especially heinous crime and sin. At the same time, though, there is strong evidence that abortion was widely practiced for centuries. This makes sense because if no one was doing it, why make a big deal out of condemning it? Today abortion is available pretty much on demand in India and there is little sense that it’s treated as shameful.
Sikhism & Abortion:
Sikhs believe that life begins and conception and that life is the creative work of God. Therefore, in principle at least, the Sikh religion takes a very strong position against abortion as a sin. Despite this, abortion is common in the Sikh community in India; in fact, there are concerns about too many female fetuses being aborted, leading to too many male Sikhs. Clearly the theoretical anti-abortion stance of Sikhism is balanced by more practicality in real life.
Taoism, Confucianism & Abortion:
There is evidence that the Chinese practiced abortion in ancient times and nothing in either Taoist or Confucian ethical codes explicitly forbids it. At the same time, though, it isn’t encouraged — it’s usually treated as a necessary evil, to be used as a last resort. Only rarely is it promoted, for example if the health of the mother requires it. Because it’s not forbidden by any authority, the decision about when it’s necessary is left entirely in the hands of the parents.
Abortion, Religion, and Religious Tradition:
Abortion is a serious ethical issue and it’s only natural that most major religions would have something to say on the issue, even if only indirectly. Opponents of abortion will be quick to point out those aspects of religious traditions which somehow condemn or prohibit abortion, but we must keep in mind the very obvious fact that abortion has been practiced in every society and for as far back as we have historical records. No matter how strong the condemnations of abortion have been, they haven’t stopped women from seeking them.
An absolute condemnation of abortion is an abstraction that cannot survive in the real world where pregnancy, birth, and raising children are difficult and dangerous prospects for women. As long as women bear children, women will be in situations where they sincerely believe that ending their pregnancy is the best of all possible options. Religions have had to deal with this fact, and being unable to eliminate abortion entirely, they have had to make room for cases when abortion might be allowable.
Reviewing the diverse religious traditions above, we can find a great deal of agreement on when abortion might be permitted. Most religions agree that abortion is more permissible in the early stages of pregnancy than in the latter stages and that the economic and health interests of the mother generally outweigh whatever interests the fetus might have for being born.
Most religions don’t appear to regard abortion as murder because they don’t ascribe the exact same moral status to the fetus as they do to the mother — or even to a newborn infant. However much abortion might be treated as a sin and immoral, it still doesn’t generally rise the same level of immorality as killing person. This indicates that anti-choice activists today who argue so vociferously that abortion is murder and impermissible have adopted a position which is a historical and contrary to most religious traditions.
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February 9, 2013 at 10:06 pm
“…I will retract my statement that religion is responsible for all abortions worldwide with the caveat that religion is responsible for all deaths worldwide pre and post birth alike,,,”
I’m sorry, but are you really serious? You went from mere factual error and assumption (probably with a personal axe to grind) to, dare I say it, outright buffoonery. You’re blaming all deaths of the human race on religion. Get with it, man. I couldn’t even read the rest of your entry.
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February 10, 2013 at 12:41 pm
Aaron:
Buffoonery is synonymous with religion.
The bible is chock full of wars and death because of religion. The Record of Mankind is chock full of religious wars and death throughout its history. Ever hear about the Spanish Inquisition, Medieval Inquisition, Portugese Inquisition, the wider Christian Inquisition, Catholic Inquisition The Crusades? What have the deaths and bombs in Ireland been over? a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow? The history of Northern Ireland can be traced back to the 17th century between the Protestants and the Catholics. Why is the war in Afghanistan against the religious ideology of the Taliban, the Muslim Sunnis against the Muslim Shiite through the Middle East, Pakistan, the Hindus and the Sikhs in India, Look at Mali, Somalia, the Congo…..worldwide religion is the cause of all conflicts.
Islam still wants to destroy Israel; is Jerusalem sought after because of its mineral wealth or something? You know the answer. Religious Insanity! The Crusades were a series of religious expeditionary wars blessed by Pope Urban II and the Catholic Church, with the stated goal of restoring Christian access to the holy places in and near Jerusalem. Jerusalem was and is a sacred city and symbol of all three major Abrahamic faiths (Judaism, Christianity and Islam). The Crusades began after the Byzantine army in 1071 cut off Christian access to Jerusalem. The term “crusade” is also used to describe religiously motivated campaigns conducted between 1100 and 1600 in territories outside the Levant usually against pagans, heretics, and peoples under the ban of excommunication for a mixture of religious, economic, and political reasons. The bible’s Revelation claims that Armageddon will be a holy war. (war is anything BUT Holy!)
Japan’s Theocracy went to war believing the Shinto Gods would protect and render victory to the religious leaders of Japan. (As an unconditional surrender after WW II the Japanese Constitution was rewritten and article 20 prohibits religious influence in government and look at how Japan prospered after religion was taken out of government!
You want to dig up Charles Martel and ask him why he was fighting the Muslim Army at the Battle of Tours in 732? Want to ask the Venetian Fleet at the Battle of Lepanto why they were fighting a Muslim fleet in 1571? Want to ask the Germanic and Austrian Knights why they were fighting the Muslims at the Gates of Vienna in 1683? Do you want to ask people what happened in Constantinople and why today it is called Istanbul because they lost that fight in 1453?
Islam is not a religion, Islam is a theo political construct that has been doing wars since 622CE.
Since the 7th century, 1388 years!
You need to get into the Quran and understand their precepts, the Surah, the Hadith and then you can really understand this is not a perversion, Muslims are doing exactly what this Book says. (Col. West)
Buffoonery is too kind a word to describe the Religious Insanity this world has had to deal with and still in thrall with since before the wheel was invented!
You can love religion all you want but religion is the worse cancer ever invented and whose legacy is death on planet earth and those who love religion still behave like reptiles towards others; like crocodiles and alligators the religious think everything that moves on the earth is fair game and prey.
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February 11, 2013 at 2:44 pm
Forget your rhetoric and vitriol for a moment and reflect on what you said.
You said religion is responsible for all human deaths. All is 100%. You cannot make that assertion and be serious, i.e. you’re acting as a buffoon, or you are mentally ill and you don’t know what you’re saying.
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February 11, 2013 at 3:30 pm
You speak to me the same way that your ancestors spoke to Jesus: Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 8: 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
John 10: 19-20 Once again, the Jews were in two minds about him because of these words, many of them remarking, “The devil’s in him and he’s insane, crazy. Why do you listen to him?”
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