If you don’t agree with the progressive Left, then you don’t deserve an education or a career in social work. A Christian man in his second year of studies for a degree in social work at Sheffield University in England was dismissed from the program because he quoted a Bible verse against homosex and same-sex marriage on Facebook.
Oh, the tolerance of the Left. If you don’t agree with our moral point of view, we’ll exclude you. Such hypocrites.
Just keep repeating what you’ve been told: “Homosexuality and same-sex marriage won’t affect you.”
This isn’t the first time something like this has happened. See here and here.
April 14, 2016 at 7:43 pm
Any Christian trying to denigrate humanity with words from the Bible or any Holy Book deserves to be booted you of Public Institutions as intolerant hate speech.
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April 14, 2016 at 9:10 pm
What about those who denigrate humanity without using the words from holy books? Hypocritical.
Besides, justify your language. Don’t talk about people “denigrating” others merely for disagreeing with their behavior. You disagree with those who disagree, so does that mean you are denigrating humanity as well? Such a use of words makes them meaningless, or turns you into a hypocrite.
I love how you speak of intolerance while you advocate intolerance.. Again…hypocritical.
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April 15, 2016 at 6:51 am
Jason:
Nobody should have to tolerate intolerance based on discrimination and not everybody in humanity are humane. I don’t denigrate humanity but the prejudices that some humans display toward others.
I am not gay and their lifestyle is not mine but I would never discriminate against them based on their differences. I respect gay people and defend their right to be who they are born to be.
I have more despise for religious believers’ public denunciation by the religious community, (though not all believers embrace that petty attitude), that comes packaged with a fair deal of hateful hostility who claim they are following god’s commands by hurting LGBT and killing them, in word or in deed.
You don’t suppose that Jesus really meant to say that the second commandment, like the first commandment, is to “……love your neighbor, except the gay neighbor, as you love yourself…..” do you? Do you really believe that Jesus excluded gay people from the term “your neighbor”? All the religious community has to do is separate love from sex and see the humanity. Did you ever hear of Agape Sex? Unlikely perhaps yet the Old Testament talks a lot about the Shrine Sex of prostitutes and Priest pimps
But Jesus did say that “Not all men can accept this statement, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are gays who were born that way from their mother’s womb; and there are gays who were made gay by men; and there are also gays who made themselves gay-like for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to accept this, let him accept it.”
That is as much as Jesus ever said about the LGBT as far as I can tell, and Jesus is the one I follow not Moses not the Pharisees and not any other self righteous claiming to be representative for God or a Prophet, a Priest, Minister or layman of the same ilk.
Who are those not allowed inside the Holy City? “Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.” And please don’t put on the religious goody two shoes act to be nice but eventually begins to lecture others about their “sinful” and immoral lifestyle and becomes a pest. It is not immoral to be gay any more than it is to practice the gay lifestyle because gays are as capable of loving same sex persons as you are for loving opposite sex persons…..because love and sex have little in common, a lot by association maybe, but little in common. Although in religious circles as everybody knows sex before religious marriage is called lust and fornication but after marriage following church guidelines, the same sexual activity is called love instead of lust and fornication because the church condones one and condemns the other.
Bastardizing the children outside of church sanctioned marriage; if you want a definition of immorality, THAT IS IT!
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April 15, 2016 at 7:06 am
Jason:
Nobody should have to tolerate intolerance based on discrimination and not everybody in humanity are humane. I don’t denigrate humanity but the prejudices that some humans display toward others.
I am not gay and their lifestyle is not mine but I would never discriminate against them based on their differences. I respect gay people and defend their right to be who they are born to be. I do business with gay people not because they are gay but because they are human. I even eat with the religious, not because they are religious but because they are human.
I have more despise for public denunciation by the religious community, (though not all believers embrace that petty attitude), that comes packaged with a fair deal of hateful hostility who claim they are following god’s commands by hurting LGBT and killing them, in word and in deed.
You don’t suppose that Jesus really meant that the second commandment, like the first commandment, is to “……love your neighbor, except the gay neighbor, as you love yourself…..” do you? Do you really believe that Jesus excluded gay people from the term “your neighbor”? All the religious community has to do is separate love from sex and see the humanity. Did you ever hear of Agape Sex? An unlikely event perhaps yet the Old Testament talks a lot about the Shrine Sex of prostitutes and Priest pimps
But Jesus did say that “Not all men can accept this statement, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are gays who were born that way from their mother’s womb; and there are gays who were made gay by men; and there are also gays who made themselves gay-like for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to accept this, let him accept it.”
That is as much as Jesus ever said about the LGBT as far as I can tell, and Jesus is the one I follow not Moses, not the Pharisees and not any other self righteous claiming to be a representative for God, a Prophet, a Priest, Minister Bishop or layman of the same ilk.
Who are those not allowed inside the Holy City? “Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.” It is not immoral to be gay any more than it is to practice the gay lifestyle because gays are as capable of loving men or women as the religious are for loving men or women….because love and sex have very little in common, a lot by association maybe, but little in common. Although in religious circles as everybody knows sex before religious marriage is called lust and fornication but after marriage following church sanction, the same sexual activity is called love instead of lust and fornication because it is the church dogma of control that condones one and condemns the other, not men and women who love each other.
Bastardizing the children outside of church sanctioned marriage; if you want a definition of immorality, THAT IS IT!
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April 17, 2016 at 10:23 pm
Inquisitor,
Once again you display the fact that you can’t actually respond without a red herring. Once again you just blithely assume that one can’t love someone else unless they agree with them. And then you pen this nonsense about being born gay. I would love to see the empirical evidence you have for that claim since scientists have been desperately seeking for some biological element to homosexuality and have not found it (and identical twin studies make it clear that biological determinism is an impossible cause). Of course, talking about evidence isn’t your forte. Spouting off rants is more in line with your style.
The fact of the matter is that Christians are not denigrating anyone’s person by disagreeing with their moral choices. But what I do see are people like you denigrating Christians for supposedly denigrating others, and then trying to justify your hypocrisy by saying we shouldn’t tolerate intolerance.
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April 18, 2016 at 7:48 am
Jason:
It’s so lolable that a Christian demands Empirical evidence acquired by observation or experimentation, the scientific method, when you operate on a belief based system in everything you “believe”.
You have never offered any empirical evidence for the paranormal in ten thousand centuries yet everything you believe about God, miracles and the supernatural is rhetorical satisfying enough for your believe.
No we do not have the empirical evidence for the gay gene or related anomalies as yet but after all we have not had the key to the human genome sequencing as per the HEADLINER: October 20, 2004: Finished Human Genome Sequence
The International Human Genome Sequencing Consortium, led in the United States by the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI) and the Department of Energy (DOE), today published its scientific description of the finished human genome sequence!
What is the latest headline from the International Supernatural Belief System(the IS/BS) on the progress of the Paranormal Geiger Counter that provides empirical evidence that the supernatural exists or even, ever existed?
You see, you demand evidence for everything Science puts forward and even demand evidence when we postulate the existence of the gay gene but we will not go for thousands of years without searching and researching until we find it is or is not there, but religion doesn’t need to follow any of the guidelines you set for us in science does it. You just blithely offer your belief system without empirical evidence but with a lot of nonsensical mythical fantasies.
Did you ever notice Jason,that today Christians and most religious people don’t go to the church for a seance or exorcism when they get sick; they go to the doctor or to the emergency for scientific medical treatment not prayer entreaties to a make believe supernatural entity, Hollywood is the only group that does that nowadays. On the other hand after the hospital treats and returns believers to relatively healthy life again, many credit the process to what? if you guessed, prayers and the supernatural God but not the actual medical science, you’d be right..
You can’t have it both ways.
Even Jesus described most gays: “For there are eunuchs (gays) who were born that way from their mother’s womb…….” but you do not even accept Jesus’ word on the birthright, without empirical evidence or do you now that I point it out? Because common sense is so lacking in belief systems, the true horror of religion allows perfectly decent and sane people to believe by the billions what only lunatics could believe on their own.
Please tell me on what grounds you refute the words of Jesus? I am confident, you will find some way to refute Jesus but I ask nevertheless: What grounds do you refute Jesus? Any? How about Naz or Frank or any intellectual capable poster who also believes in the supernatural.
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April 18, 2016 at 11:59 am
Christians not only denigrate gays they judge them and penalize them in the here and now, so why don’t you answer the question I asked before; would it be acceptable to about a homosexual fetus before it was birthed?
Turn the other cheek, forgive trespasses, love your enemy, that’s a foreign language to you; no, you want punishment, don’t you? You want eternal torture, you want unimaginable suffering, for your own satisfaction.
So I think if Jesus came back and he saw what people like you had made of his teachings, he’d quickly realize that nobody had listened to a word he said, that he was wasting his breath and that he’d wasted his life.
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April 18, 2016 at 12:01 pm
Post 7 paragraph 1, line 3.
“about” read “abort”.
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April 18, 2016 at 12:16 pm
Frank:
Right now in the UK some Christian fanatics are attempting to take out a prosecution for blasphemy against the producers of a popular comic opera. Now, the very idea of blasphemy, the idea that blasphemy even exists, as a concept, says it all for me about religion because what this really means is that some human beings have taken it upon themselves to feel insulted on God’s behalf.
They don’t trust God to decide for himself whether to be insulted and deal with the matter in the appropriate way, on Judgment Day, No, no, they want to see punishment dished out right here on earth for there own satisfaction because it’s not really about God is it, it’s really about them and their personal mental illness. As it so often is when religion is exploited and misused by pig ignorant, narrow minded zealots. This is the same mentality …………………..
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April 28, 2016 at 1:30 pm
Leo, eunuchs are not gay ….what a moron you are ….
Naz
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April 29, 2016 at 8:45 am
See Naz; you don’t even know what a eunuch is so thank ypou for the opportunity to give you knowledge.
Of course it means gay, from the womb ( Being naturally impotent for procreative sex, innately gay men were referred to in the ancient world as “born eunuchs” or just “eunuchs.”) that’s why eunuchs were put in charge of the King’s wives and concubines, but their were also eunuchs made that way by men, castrated and there were other eunuchs who because of the Kingdom of heaven as Jesus states of the three kinds, vowed celibacy and became celibate eunuchs by choice.
Jesus speaking: “For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and
there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others–and
there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.
The one who can accept this should accept it.”
And here, you can have your phrase back where it belongs and more correctly placed:
“….what a moron you are ….”
Naz, you don’t have enough knowledge to debate the spirit. Sorry but you are just not yet ready to undertake serious enough, belief has you by the gonads and renders your impotent.
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April 29, 2016 at 8:52 am
Re-sending with edits:
See Naz; you don’t even know what a eunuch is so thank you for the opportunity to give you knowledge.
Of course it means gay, from the womb ( Being naturally impotent for procreative sex, innately gay men were referred to in the ancient world as “born eunuchs” or just “eunuchs.”) that’s why eunuchs were put in charge of the King’s wives and concubines, but there were also eunuchs made that way by men, castrated and there were other eunuchs who because of the Kingdom of heaven as Jesus states of the three types, vowed celibacy and became celibate eunuchs by choice.
Jesus speaking:
“For there are eunuchs which were so born from their mother’s womb:, and
there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others–and
there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.
The one who can accept this should accept it.”
And here, you can have your phrase back where it belongs and more correctly placed:
“….what a moron you are ….”
Naz, you don’t have enough knowledge to debate the spirit. Sorry but you are just not yet ready to undertake debate seriously enough; belief has caught you by the gonads and renders your mind impotent.
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April 29, 2016 at 8:56 am
Jason:
I hear you (Christians) all the time denigrating others and then justify your words with the catch-all phrase, hate the sin but love the sinner.
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April 29, 2016 at 9:15 am
Naz: GET IT!
Hosea 4 Hear the word of the Lord, ye children of Israel: for the Lord hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land.
God indicts the whole population:
No one is faithful. No one loves.
No one knows the first thing about God.
6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: they don’t know what’s right or true. Because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
Prov: 18:15–The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge, for the ears of the wise seek it out.
YET, Without knowledge there exists sheer anarchy, one murder after another!
And because of all this, the very land itself weeps and everything in it is grief-stricken—animals in the fields and birds on the wing, even the fish in the sea are listless, lifeless. Everything dying for lack of knowledge.
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May 3, 2016 at 6:23 am
rant rant rant rant rant rant …
Nobody is listening or cares …..
Naz
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May 3, 2016 at 12:37 pm
Naz:
You speak only for yourself as recent past commentaries clearly show; you do not speak for everybody; in fact, you speak for practically nobody on the Post you can’t even speak coherently for yourself as you fight and contend with everybody over silly doctrinal niggling points that mean nothing to anybody but yourself. You are a void but just don’t get it.
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May 3, 2016 at 12:53 pm
Leo, here is a riddle if you are smart enough to figure it out …..
There are sheep and there are goats.
But there are no geep and no shoats …..
Touche !
Naz
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May 3, 2016 at 5:15 pm
Naz:
You have to submit to the spirit; you have already admitted your goatship. Now like the evangelical Ted Cruz; Christianity has been thrown out of the door by secularist common sense. You have to accept that religion is on its way out of circulation as the inevitable consequence of civilizing. Face it. Your ancient doctrines are and just what they ought to be….ANCIENT ARCHIVES. Out of touch. Out of date; out of reality.
With the Ancient mentality, you can never enter the New Heaven and the New Earth; indeed, you can not only never accept it, you can never enter therein; it is therefore, beyond your capacity to go forward. I am sorry but as long as you still have life, there is a chance to change….Just come to me, listen to the spirit and you will be welcome.
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May 4, 2016 at 5:58 am
Leo, riddle #2, let’s see if you can understand this one….you obviously don’t know the meaning of the first one as you don’t have the Spirit and are reprobate.
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit.
A bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
Naz
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May 4, 2016 at 10:13 am
The Accuser of our brothers and sisters thrown out,
who accused them day and night
he’s had a great fall;
He’s wild and raging with anger;
he hasn’t much time and he knows it.
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May 4, 2016 at 10:34 am
Riddle #3,
Mat 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.
Naz
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