Many scientifically-minded atheists claim that science can explain or has explained everything that God was once invoked to explain, and thus there is no more room for belief in God. But when theists point to gaps in scientific knowledge and argue that God best explains that gap, atheists accuse us of committing a God-of-the-gaps fallacy. If the discovery of natural processes to explain some phenomena counts as evidence against God, how can it also be that the lack of a naturalistic explanation cannot count as evidence for God’s existence when God is the best explanation for the phenomena?[1] Heads I win, tails you lose.
Obviously the lack of a naturalistic explanation for some phenomenon in and of itself is not evidence for theism, but it does show that (1) science has not explained everything that needs to be explained or that the God hypothesis has been invoked to explain, and (2) it shows that there is still explanatory power in theism.
Just because we have come to learn that God is not necessary to explain some of needs to be explained does not mean that God is not needed to explain anything. If we had 10 things that need to be explained, and God had been invoked to explain all 10, but we have since discovered that God is not needed to explain seven of those 10 items, it does not follow that God is (probably) not needed to explain the remaining three. It may just be the case that God is only needed to explain the remaining three items, and it’s because God is the explanation for those three items that they defy naturalistic explanation. The atheist is exercising faith when he says that science will discover the naturalistic processes responsible for the remaining three items just as it had for the other seven. They may or may not. But to assume that they will despite having no evidence for this belief is blind faith. The basis for our judgments is evidence that exists today, not evidence that is hoped to exist in the future. If the current evidence shows that the God hypothesis is superior to the naturalistic hypothesis, then we are beholden to follow the evidence and admit that it at least shows it is possible that God exists, even while recognizing that our conclusions could change if the evidence changes.
For some phenomena, we don’t have to wait for the possibility of more evidence in the future because the nature of the phenomena is such that a naturalistic explanation is impossible in principle. For example, naturalistic processes cannot possibly explain consciousness, morality, or the origin of physical reality:
- Consciousness – Self-awareness is not a physical property, and thus cannot originate from anything physical.
- Morality – “Good” and “evil” are not physical properties. There are not evil elements or good molecules. Good and evil are immaterial properties, and thus cannot originate from anything physical.
- Physical reality – Physical reality had a beginning. Since something cannot come from nothing, physical reality had to be caused to come into existence. Whatever that cause was, it cannot be a physical or natural entity because it’s logically impossible for physical stuff to exist prior to the existence of physical stuff. That would require that physical reality exist before it exists, which is a logical absurdity. The cause must be immaterial in nature, and thus there cannot be a naturalistic explanation for the origin of physical reality.
The atheist’s way of reasoning also fails because it presumes that the evidence for God’s existence is limited to explaining natural phenomenon. God is invoked to explain much more than natural phenomenon, and thus even if science had explained all natural phenomenon in terms of natural processes, it still wouldn’t follow that science had explained God away. God would still be needed to explain other elements of the human experience.
No matter how you slice it, the advancement in scientific knowledge has not removed the need for God’s existence, nor undermined the basis for belief in God’s existence. If anything, advancements in scientific knowledge have given us more and better reasons to believe in God. Justifying that claim will have to be reserved for another day.
See also:
There is no scientific evidence for God?
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[1]One does not commit a God-of-the-gaps fallacy merely by positing God as an explanation, but by positing God as an explanation simply to fill a gap in our knowledge. We don’t know how to explain X, therefore we say God did X. In this case we are positing the existence of God to cover for our ignorance. When God is posited as the best explanation for what we know, however, that is a valid way of reasoning. Theists argue that what we know about the effect is best explained by a divine being rather than naturalistic processes. God is posited to explain what we know, not what we don’t.
May 5, 2016 at 12:44 pm
THE problem I see with Theism is not the “God of the gaps” fallacy. The problem is that theists cannot explain God outside the realm of the supernatural. If theists could only read and understand the God that Jesus described they should clearly see two Gods that are completely different; that is, : (1) the paranormal God the Ancients invoked using magic to demonstrate the entity and the entity invoked by modern day theists are one and the same God; but, neither God is correct or consistent with the God that Jesus described throughout the Gospels which is (2) the living God, the Father
living within man himself.
The God of the Living, not the God of the Dead which simply means the God of Life. The God of Life has nothing the do with, the God of the Inanimate, the Universe or the Physical Laws, call that essence God if you want, but those are all part of the inanimate entity by its own name, as named and catalogued as referenced: the Cosmos, the Stars, the Planets, Gravity, Electro Magnetism but distinct absolutely from the God of Jesus. The God Jesus described is the God of the Living because that God, referred to over and over again, is the Father living within you, within your humanity. Theists are still mixed up in their understanding of God because they mix and lump all observable matter into their concept of the same God as the Ancients but God does not live in dead men’s bones anymore than s/he lives in stones or lava flow and therefore is impotent to man’s understanding that described the real God of Jesus as the Living God, God living within you. Of course not everyone demonstrates the God living within but that’s where you have to start if you start anywhere to seek to find, ask to have answer, knock for the Key of Knowledge and the door open to you.
This concept of man’s misinterpretation of their God and the Jesus God is amply relayed in the following:
..there was once a time when all human beings were gods, but they so abused their divinity (by sin, darkness, whatever metaphor you choose) that Brahma, the chief god, decided to take it away from them and hide it where it could never be found.
Where to hide their divinity was the question. So Brahma called a council of the gods to help him decide. “Let’s bury it deep in the earth,” said the gods. But Brahma answered, “No, that will not do because humans will dig into the earth and find it.” Then the gods said, “Let’s sink it in the deepest ocean.” But Brahma said, “No, not there, for they will learn to dive into the ocean and will find it.” Then the gods said, “Let’s take it to the top of the highest mountain and hide it there.” But once again Brahma replied, “No, that will not do either, because they will eventually climb every mountain and once again take up their divinity.” Then the gods gave up and said, “We do not know where to hide it, because it seems that there is no place on earth or in the sea that human beings will not eventually reach.”
Brahma thought for a long time and then said, “Here is what we will do. We will hide their divinity deep in the center of their own being, for humans will never think to look for it there.”
All the gods agreed that this was the perfect hiding place, and the deed was done. And since that time humans have been going up and down the earth, digging, diving, climbing, and exploring–searching for something already within themselves: Lk 17:20, 21
They cannot find it because Theists are still looking for God in rocks and in pizzas and in the clouds, in all the wrong places still and for which Jesus condemned the Clerics FOR NOT TELLING THE PEOPLE because it is not that hard to understand but THEY would not accept the Living God concept so they killed the son for trying to awaken the world to the reality they hid and continued to hide, refusing to go there and worse, not allowing those who would enter to go. Their deceit have kept Theists in the dark about the God of Jesus for centuries ever since stone age chiseling.
Woe unto you, Lawyers, Experts of the Law, Religious Scholars! for ye have hidden the KEY OF KNOWLEDGE: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in, ye hindered. Lk 19:52
How can this understanding illude so many sane and decent people? God living within a man’s human: The Propositional Axiom: A self-evident and necessary truth, or a proposition whose truth is so evident at first sight that no reasoning or demonstration can make it plainer.
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May 5, 2016 at 12:47 pm
The essence of character, the compulsion of conscience, the guide of brain power memory along with the ability of reason, logic and discretion form a commonality among men, the wisest being able to understand the concept of “God” WITHIN, wherein resides the personal God, the “Father”.
This Knowledge-based concept of the god-head within, is the entity Jesus referred to as the “Father’s Kingdom”, and of which he said: nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”
Jesus was NOT part of the belief-based system of supernaturalism, that takes the internal essence “within” and projects it to supernatural external Gods, all of which are merely caricature substitutes of the belief, creatures designed to replace the knowledge-based (God) within. Caricature avatars created by wannabee clergy messengers through magic and deceit form the foundation for the world’s biggest mental illness.
Hinduism is mono-theistic, in that the millions of gods and goddesses are perceived as being avatars of the one supreme God Brahman.
This is similar to the Trinity doctrine Christians believe, only more diverse.
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May 5, 2016 at 1:06 pm
As expected, Spirit Moronticus has started up again….
Naz
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May 5, 2016 at 2:30 pm
As expected you continue to take cues from your mentor Donald Trump using school yard name calling ad hominems instead of debating the issues which lack of skills thereof demonstrate you have already lost the debate as LAD and Scalia already peg-holed you with sufficient authority.
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May 5, 2016 at 3:15 pm
There is no debate, you are wrong.
Naz
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May 5, 2016 at 4:41 pm
Consider, if 10 atheists, all noted scientists, took a spaceship to a far away planet and upon landing they found an abandoned city, complete with transportation systems, factories, businesses, etc., but absolutely no life of any kind, not even bacteria. Only robots that moved around and kept the city maintained, even repairing things that decayed, even building more factories and robots.
What would all 10 of those scientists say? Would any of them say all this sprang up from a “primordial soup?” No, they would all say that intelligent life once occupied this planet and that intelligent life built the city and robots.
Yet, we all witness something far more amazing on this world. Life, with blood systems, immune systems, reproduction, digestion, etc., etc., is far, far more complex than a city full of robots.
It can be categorically stated: Evolution as an explanation for life is utter nonsense. That so many very bright people believe otherwise only shows they are suffering spiritual blindness that blinds them to what is absolutely obvious.
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May 5, 2016 at 5:05 pm
How many times have we had this conversation? Must be 2-3 times a year, at least. Yes, we all should follow the evidence where it leads. Fortunately for humanity there are plenty of atheistic, as well as theistic, scientists who do not let the calls for the acceptance of the God hypothesis to cloud their scientific judgment. My existence on this planet is somewhere between two third and three quarters over. I will likely go to my grave not knowing how life originated on Earth, if Stephen Hawkins’s model for the Big Bang is accurate, the details of how the human brain functions, etc, etc, etc. Just because I’ll die before such questions are answered doesn’t mean I’m going to take the easy way out and attribute it all to God in order to reach some sort of intellectual closure. “God did it” has been and always will be a scientific intellectual dead end. A good scientist knows that. It is unfortunate that a large number of non-scientists who do not.
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May 5, 2016 at 5:08 pm
Jason said,
“If anything, advancements in scientific knowledge have given us more and better reasons to believe in God”
Very few times have truer words been spoken.
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May 5, 2016 at 6:52 pm
If anything Randy your “If” proposition is as useless an argument as your robot city by Gods you created in your own image.
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May 5, 2016 at 7:00 pm
If an alien spaceship sent a team to investigate the earth because they heard that there is a race of people who by their behavior represent the God who made them, what would they find? God is a liar, a stealer, a hater, a murderer willing to exert the most barbaric acts upon his fellow man that even his own kind is revulsed by. It would be then, that they may claim they were most certainly an evolution in progress but still in the embryonic stage of fetal still struggling from the cocoon.
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May 6, 2016 at 6:42 am
Randy, post #6, well said. I agree wholeheartedly. It is obvious.
Naz
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May 6, 2016 at 7:11 am
There is no need to jettison God in favor of science. There is lots of room for God because God is not only interested in science ….He’s interested in people, namely us, all of us, even Leo…. 🙂 God has put physical processes in motion and the universe takes care of itself without God having to necessarily intervene moment by moment to keep it going.
Just because God created the universe, it doesn’t mean we cannot engage in scientific research to acquire knowledge of that creation. Science was never intended to usurp, replace or be God to us. Science helps us to understand the created universe and how it works. The problem comes when we try to use science to explain origins and events that were not observed, then we run into problems and all sorts of theories that cannot be proved.
I’m all for new discoveries and scientific research that can lead to cures for disease and so on, there is nothing wrong with that. Our nature as human beings is to seek knowledge and understanding which we should do with respects to the created universe and with respects to God Himself. God and science are not opposing forces, it only appears that way because of the prevailing post-modern way of thinking today.
Science is not the enemy of God, never has been. Man creates these ideas in his own attempt to find truth apart from the Creator. The result is a god created by Man in the image of science.
The definition of science is :
“the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.”
Claiming that science no room for God is like saying your car has no room for you.
Naz
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May 6, 2016 at 2:03 pm
“………..The problem comes when we try to use science(Mythology, Gods, Miracles of magic, Psychic prophets, Religion) to explain origins and events (like Genesis, ADAM AND Eve, Trees with forbidden Truth, talking Snakes) that were not observed,(but imagined) then we run into problems and all sorts of (Creationist) theories that cannot be proved (can only be imagined)………….
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May 11, 2016 at 8:36 pm
“No matter how you slice it, the advancement in scientific knowledge has not removed the need for God’s existence, nor undermined the basis for belief in God’s existence. If anything, advancements in scientific knowledge have given us more and better reasons to believe in God.” – Theosophical Ruminator
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May 11, 2016 at 10:50 pm
Frank:
You can rationalize anything to suit your mindset. So you saying science has given you more reason to believe God is pathetic reaching.
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May 12, 2016 at 1:07 am
SpiGat,
Keep your words in your mouth. I say the facts speak for themselves.
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May 12, 2016 at 10:16 am
Frank:
You need to be challenged at every turn about your belief choking comments.
You mean pseudo facts because all you have in any regard to your facts is called “BELIEF” or non-knowledge for clarity if you can’t accept what belief actually means and that is a fact you can count on an elementary child of science to demonstrate.
Catelli Spigatti
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July 7, 2016 at 7:22 am
Dr. Hugh Ross is Founder and President of Reasons to Believe, in Pasadena, California. His Ph.D. from the University of Toronto is in Astronomy. He was the youngest person ever to serve as director of observations for Vancouver’s Royal Astronomical Society. With the help of a National Research Council (NRC) of Canada fellowship, he completed his undergraduate degree in physics and graduate degrees in astronomy. In his post-doctoral work at Caltech, he researched quasi-stellar objects, or “quasars,” some of the most distant and ancient objects in the universe.
He is author or co-author of numerous books including, Fingerprint of God: Recent Scientific Discoveries Reveal the Unmistakable Identity of the Creator, Beyond the Cosmos: The Extra-Dimensionality of God: What Recent Discoveries in Astronomy and Physics Reveal about the Nature of God, The Creator and the Cosmos: How the Latest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God, Navigating Genesis: A Scientist’s Journey through Genesis 1-11, Why the Universe Is the Way It Is, and A Matter of Days: Resolving a Creation Controversy
And the evidence continues to mount. Since Dr. Ross made this presentation in 2004 in which he states there are 65 fine-tuned characteristics for life in the universe according to the latest article on the matter at reasons.org website there are 93.
http://www.reasons.org/articles/fine-tuning-for-life-in-the-universe
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July 7, 2016 at 3:23 pm
Dr Ross has a wonderful resume from Academia; unfortunately it does nothing top connect the God Dots. Good try though.
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July 9, 2016 at 12:14 pm
Prospero:
Our revels now are ended. These our actors,
As I foretold you, were all spirits, and
Are melted into air, into thin air:
And like the baseless fabric of this vision,
The cloud-capp’d tow’rs, the gorgeous palaces,
The solemn temples, the great globe itself,
Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve,
And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff
As dreams are made on; and our little life
Is rounded with a sleep.
The Tempest Act 4, scene 1, 148–158 – William Shakespeare
“At this moment it seems as though science will never be able to raise the curtain on the mystery of creation. For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”
― Robert Jastrow
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July 9, 2016 at 12:17 pm
As for panspermia, perhaps its origin stems from here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Without_Bones
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July 9, 2016 at 1:27 pm
On Science & Science-Fiction:
http://scottnicolay.com/stories-from-the-borderland-6-men-without-bones-by-gerald-kersh/
https://lexal.net/scifi/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/kersh/kersh1.html
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July 10, 2016 at 6:14 am
Chemistry of an unusual sort; one involving worldviews:
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July 12, 2016 at 6:37 pm
Man, who is born of woman, is short-lived and full of turmoil. Like a flower he comes forth and withers. He also flees like a shadow and does not remain. You also open Your eyes on him and bring him into judgment with Yourself. (Job 14:1-3)
About John Baumgardner: http://globalflood.org/biography.html
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July 12, 2016 at 6:43 pm
Science meets History:
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July 12, 2016 at 6:50 pm
Man, who is born of woman, is short-lived and full of turmoil. Like a flower he comes forth and withers. He also flees like a shadow and does not remain. You also open Your eyes on him and bring him into judgment with Yourself. (Job 14:1-3)
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July 12, 2016 at 6:51 pm
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July 12, 2016 at 6:53 pm
About John Baumgardner: http://globalflood.org/biography.html
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July 12, 2016 at 7:04 pm
Evidence of a “Genesis Flood” only suggests one thing:…evidence of a Flood. Methinks floods have been occurring for a long time on this planet. Any place where rain falls is vulnerable. This not an OMG moment.
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July 12, 2016 at 7:10 pm
Frank:
You might want to hang your hat on this:
Stories of a great ancient flood pervade the mythology of hundreds of cultures. Westerners might be most familiar with the story of Noah told in the Old Testament book of Genesis, but a great flood is reported in folklore from cultures around the world, from the Middle East to the Americas, India, China and Southern Asia to name just a few.
An ancient Babylonian flood myth, the Epic of Gilgamesh, tells us a story analogous to that of Noah and his ark. In it, a man named Utnapishtim builds a ship to save his family and animals from floods brought on his city by a wrathful god. After seven days, Utnapishtim and his family come to rest safely on a mountaintop.
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July 12, 2016 at 8:05 pm
As it’s written: Genesis 7:17-24.
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July 13, 2016 at 8:26 am
Geology meets History:
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July 13, 2016 at 8:32 am
Dr. Mortenson’s talk is titled: Millions of Years: the Idea’s Origin and Impact on the Church. Where did the Church’s belief in millions of years come from? This historical survey will explain how the idea of millions of years became dominant in geology and the resulting catastrophic damage to the Church and to the proclamation of the gospel. It is a sad state of affairs that most Christian churches today accept millions of years that is taught by man and refuse to believe in the thousands of years as taught by Scripture.
This video has 3 parts:
Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT0ZzW…
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eP_oG…
Part 3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKKJZ4…
Dr. Terry Mortenson from Answers in Genesis ( http://www.AnswersInGenesis.org ), Like most people, grew up in an education system that taught evolution as fact. During his first year in university and shortly after becoming a Christian, he began to see the fallacy of the idea of billions of years of evolution.
With a Ph.D. in the history of geology from the University of Coventry in England, Dr Mortenson has been studying and speaking on the creation-evolution controversy throughout North America and Europe since the late 1970s. He also holds a Masters of Divinity degree from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Chicago, Illinois. Dr. Mortenson is now a full time speaker and research scientist for AIG.
Much of his M.Div. studies focused on various (Biblical, historical and philosophical) aspects of this subject. His Ph.D. thesis analyzed the origins of old-earth geology in the early 19th century and particularly the writings of the ‘scriptural geologists’, a group of scientists and non-scientists who wrote Biblical, geological and philosophical arguments against these budding old-earth theories. Through study and personal interaction he has been exposed to the many different Christian and non-Christian responses to this controversy. All of this study and teaching has deepened his conviction of the literal truth and foundational importance of Genesis 1–11.
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July 13, 2016 at 8:37 am
Can you believe in millions of years and a Noachian flood or are they mutually exclusive? Are there modern day examples of layered canyons being formed in a matter of hours? Dr. Terry Mortenson answers these questions and many more in this illustrated lecture. You will see solid scientific evidence for a global catastrophic flood and discover the erroneous teachings of some 19th century historians.
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July 13, 2016 at 8:59 am
Dr. Mortenson’s talk is titled: Millions of Years: the Idea’s Origin and Impact on the Church. Where did the Church’s belief in millions of years come from? This historical survey will explain how the idea of millions of years became dominant in geology and the resulting catastrophic damage to the Church and to the proclamation of the gospel. It is a sad state of affairs that most Christian churches today accept millions of years that is taught by man and refuse to believe in the thousands of years as taught by Scripture.
Dr. Terry Mortenson from Answers in Genesis ( http://www.AnswersInGenesis.org ), Like most people, grew up in an education system that taught evolution as fact. During his first year in university and shortly after becoming a Christian, he began to see the fallacy of the idea of billions of years of evolution.
With a Ph.D. in the history of geology from the University of Coventry in England, Dr Mortenson has been studying and speaking on the creation-evolution controversy throughout North America and Europe since the late 1970s. He also holds a Masters of Divinity degree from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Chicago, Illinois. Dr. Mortenson is now a full time speaker and research scientist for AIG.
Much of his M.Div. studies focused on various (Biblical, historical and philosophical) aspects of this subject. His Ph.D. thesis analyzed the origins of old-earth geology in the early 19th century and particularly the writings of the ‘scriptural geologists’, a group of scientists and non-scientists who wrote Biblical, geological and philosophical arguments against these budding old-earth theories. Through study and personal interaction he has been exposed to the many different Christian and non-Christian responses to this controversy. All of this study and teaching has deepened his conviction of the literal truth and foundational importance of Genesis 1–11.
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July 13, 2016 at 11:09 am
Some people think that believing in the Bible is just blind faith. The truth is, however, that having faith in the things we read about in the Bible is logical reasoning with all kinds of evidence every where we look.
This video contains audio by David McClister and presentation slides that explain and show historical and archaeological evidence to support the people, places and things we read about in the Old Testament.
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July 13, 2016 at 11:12 am
We should always base our understanding about anything on the evidence at hand. This sermon provides us with evidence that solidifies our faith in the people, places and things we read about in the New Testament.
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July 13, 2016 at 11:29 am
The problem being Churchy is that it can never move on from its days of dogma; otherwise, it would be an admission that they were wrong all along.
So Dogma, by virtue of it never being wrong, can never progress. It is this same dogma that has twisted the life and times of Jesus to be shown as an imbed from the the ancient dogma of being Churchy.
The Pharisees infiltrated the new followings of Jesus, usurped the followings’ fervor for the life of Jesus into their own passionate dogma for blood sacrifice for remission of sin and by refocusing attention from the life of Jesus and all his messages for the good of humanity to the ancient customs, were successfully able to thwart and suppress the Life and Messages of Jesus and concentrate only on the death and blood for the remission of sin.
And every Christian I have heard on this board affirms that very twist of fate and think they are doing a wonderful service for themselves and others by quoting the preachers of Acts, most notably Paul the Pharisee. And if that was not the enough they take the Pauline Weave, run with it and quote every tradition and law and stupidity of stone chiseled dogma that serves only and always the same religious tradition that it always served and the blinders have put on your Jesus eyes and you preach the same nonsense of the Pharisees since Moses: literal truth, miracles, supernaturalism, charlatans and frauds the EXACT message of the Pharisees.
You see it wasn’t just the Life and Messages of Jesus that the Pharisees were worried about after killing the body; they had to undo all the harm caused by Jesus to their established religion, to themselves. It was no light matter when Jesus called them out for their dogmatic tradition and hypocrisy in falsely teaching as doctrine the precepts of men in his famous” ‘Woe to You’ Indictment” of the Church and its leaders in Matthew 23.
Remember the most obvious point here is that the prevailing Christian Religions of today are identical to the prevailing Pharisee Religion in Jesus’ day. When everybody goes rushing through their bookmarkers to make their points and counterpoints they believe they are calling out the Big Guns of Christianity armed to the teeth with copious droppings of scholarly interpretation but the more armed their Big Guns are they are merely mimicking old school religion as it was that Jesus railed against since he started his campaign and Jesus is still fighting against them and now with you Christians siding with the Pharisees of the Ancient Order, Jesus is fighting still and I am here on Jesus behalf to tell you to open your blind eyes, realize you have been bamboozled from the beginning, change your ways and get back to where you belong….WITH JESUS not with the killers of Jesus who then, after killing Jesus, claim that the blood of Jesus had to spilled to fulfill the law of the Ancients for the remission of sins. Don’t any of you see just how retarded and backward that is in a society today we call civilized?
Any?
When the old story of Genesis Flood tells you about the widespread corruption of the world in Noah’s Day that was the reason for the corruption how does that compare to today’s current barometer:
“The saga continues in Chicago as violence across the US ticks upward following the Dallas police attack.
Having 115 people shot last week is incredible in lieu of what we reported earlier this year when 120 people in Chicago were shot inside a 10 day span.
Does there need to be a Genesis Flood to cleanse America’s Inner Christian Streets?
FRANK: RUN FOR YOUR BIG GUNS:
You are preaching the same thing today and getting the same results from Noah’s Day, through Moses Day through Jesus Day to Today’s Day. Simply by adding the word “Jesus” before or after your message doesn’t make you a follower of Jesus anymore than the word sorry after a lifetime pursuing a false Jesus in the Image of the Pharisees, makes you worthy to enter into the true Kingdom.
Oh we’ve repented, we’re sorry for what we’ve done, anybody can be sorry for what you’ve done, especially if you’ve been found out. That isn’t repentance. Repentance recognizes that God so engineered me that apart from the presence of God, I am nothing, have nothing and can do nothing. Let this disposition be in you that was in Christ. He playing the role of man let the Father be everything; you playing the role of men let Christ be everything. As he derived everything he ever did, said or was from the Father in the son so now you derive everything you say and do and are from the son living in you. It’s called sanctification.
SANCTIFICATION.
Beautiful word. Sanctification. We get a bit frightened at the word sanctification because we’ve sort of given it a musty connotation, We made it sort of drip religion. There’s nothing pompous or pious about sanctification, beautiful word. It simply means set apart. That’s what a saint is: not a stain glass window, sort of, with a halo hanging around his neck; a saint, same root word is somebody set apart in sanctification, set apart for the intelligent purpose for which intelligently created, that’s sanctification. Anything can be sanctified. When I put my shoes on my feet and walk down the street with them on my feet, I sanctify them. I could of course put them on my head and go barefoot; you’d think I was a little unusual; you’d be right.
When you look at your watch, you sanctify it; you use it for the intelligent purpose for which it was intelligently created, to tell you how late it is. You’ll probably sanctify your watch several times before this night is out.
I could use my glasses to stir my coffee in an emergency but that wasn’t really in the mind of the person who made them; his idea was that I’d stick them on my nose so that I could see the better. Now I’m sanctifying them. These glasses are a little unusual because they have double vision lenses and I don’t need the top half when I’m reading so they’re only half sanctified when I wear them.
The word sanctification simply means that you recognize the intelligent purpose for which God made you and you understand the intelligent way in which he made you so you can implement that intelligent purpose and then you let him as God who created you for that intelligent purpose use you to that end; that’s sanctification. And it will involve your spirit, conjunction, and soul, conjunction, and body; live on earth the intelligent quality of life which is true fulfillment for which God made you as man so that all, in your presence, will become compellingly aware of what God is like.
Now you see, we’re without excuse because the Lord Jesus deliberately chose to sanctify himself, so that we in him would know the truth whereby we too may be sanctified. Sanctify them through thy word, thy word is truth; in other words, God’s word contains a principle; it’s a principle to live by. I don’t mean pretty little bible stories that you simply know, textually, so that you can tell the story of Daniel and the lion’s den; or, David and Goliath, all part of God’s inspired word but you see if you just memorize bible stories or for that matter memorize bible verses but you don’t understand the truth, the principle that God is communicating, then you might just as well recite three blind mice and this is the tragedy with countless evangelical, born again believers, they have a bible that they’ve come to know textually but they’ve never learned the truth!
And you Christians think you have the right message about Jesus?
NOT A CHANCE.
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July 13, 2016 at 3:03 pm
Frank:
What I learned about Dr Mortenson, Creationist.
Born & Grew up in a church going family………………………..1953
Entered University and became a born again Christian ……1972
through the witness of a staff member of Campus
Crusade for Christ. A few weeks later he encountered
two books by Henry Morris and Duane Gish exposing
the lie of evolution and millions of years and from then
on started reading everything he could on the subject.
Graduated with a BA Math……………………………………………1975
During his summer assignment on Campus Crusade……….1979
staff he heard a lunch-time lecture on creation and
evolution by John Baumgardner.
Terry asked John if he could purchase a copy of ……………(1980–1989)
his 35mm slides and the manuscript of his lecture.
Armed with this resource, Terry started speaking
on the subject. During his nearly ten years of covert
missionary work in communist Czechoslovakia.
Entered Trinity Evangelical Divinity School
graduated with a M.Div. in systematic theology………………(1989-1992)
Study: PhD, History of geology, Coventry ……………………..(1992-1996)
University, Coventry, England. This to
support his Genesis Belief of a young age earth
During these years “Answers in Genesis” also
became aware of his research, which later
led to an invitation to join AiG staff as a speaker.
After receiving his PhD he moved his …………………………..1996
growing family to Hungary where he served
on a Campus Crusade team providing biblical
and theological education for Campus Crusade
staff all over Eastern Europe and the former
Soviet Union.
He left Campus Crusade to join AiG…………………………….2001
Professional Affiliation, Evangelical, ………………………(1996–present)
Theological Society.
There was a recent controversy at Furman ………………….2014
University, South Carolina. A small group of
Christians there arranged the meeting for
Dr. Terry Mortenson as an outreach to the
students on campus. His topic was “Origin
of Species: Was Darwin Right?”
The controversy arose bevause the University did not authorize it as a for-credit event and the christian group claimed bias against Christians. Brent Nelson, a political science professor who is chairman of the school’s Cultural Life Program Committee, which decides whether to grant credit for events, said it wasn’t because the topic was creationism that Mortenson’s talk never got traction as a for-credit event but because the speaker is academically unqualified to lecture on the origin of life.
This clearly shows a pattern of how a bible believer will follows academic course to refute the evidence the course suggests and thereby spend a wasteless life in so doing.
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July 14, 2016 at 12:25 pm
Nicodemus even said, “Rabbi, we (1st century Jewish authority [Sanhedrin]) know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs (attesting miracles) that You do unless God is with him.” (John 3:2)
Virtue of attesting signs, the Greater Exodus & the prophetic restoration of Israel:
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July 14, 2016 at 1:46 pm
ltg,
One thing you didn’t learn is how to spell the name of Professor Nelsen correctly. His name is Brent Franklin Nelsen, not “Nelson”. So, a college professor of political science calls the determination as to who’s “academically unqualified to lecture on the origin of life”. A professor whose “teaching and scholarship focus on Europe and the European Union” no less. This is what’s directing the youth of South Carolina in the pursuit of scientific inquiry on origins; not geologists, geophysicists, biochemists, astronomers, geneticists, marine biologists, botanists, oceanographers, paleontologists, anthropologists, and astrophysicists. How does “political science” or social science qualify as earth science or life science? You might as well have selected a sociologist. No offense, but I think Prof. Nelsen is out of his zone of competence to put it mildly. Sorry, but I don’t consider teaming up with the Prime Minister of Finland to write a book about The European Union: Readings on the Theory and Practice of European Integration (a most depressing subject these days) qualifies you even as a subject matter expert on either the origin of the species or the origin of the cosmos. Besides, I’m sure with all that’s going on in the crumbling EU these days his plate’s pretty full.
http://www.furman.edu/academics/politicalscience/meet-our-faculty/Pages/Brent-F-Nelsen.aspx
I think somebody’s low on oxygen.
– Frank
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July 14, 2016 at 8:10 pm
Add Nice, France to the calamity list:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/14/truck-crashes-bastille-day-crowd-nice-france/
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July 14, 2016 at 8:37 pm
Frank:
Thanks for noting the misspelling of Nelsen’s name.Who would habve thought, an “o” for and “e”; it should have been so obvious….oh well.
IN Academia, Faculty have extra curricular activities assigned or requested by them in the form of various committees that oversee those extra curricula activities. To take a position, even Chair a Committee is a figure head position and one may or may not have expertise in the extracurriculum but would like to participate in, say, theatrical productions as an extracurricular activity; participate in sports events as an extracurricular activity; Enviro Energy production, for instance perhaps Campus Policing and yes, even the extra curricula communications activity from outside guest speaker lectures.
These positions are ways to channel certain queries and activities; in other words a conduit to some committee or other that oversees various extra functions. That’s basic governance of the University Faculty; the Student Union organizes similar extracurricular committees associated with students; one of the committees oversees the Campus Media, such as the University Newspaper, Radio and Recreation. I had, by virtue of my employment between High School and University a special focus on audio/video broadcasting having worked with National Broadcast Companies for several years. When I returned to my studies I wanted to pursue the third aspect of Broadcasting: Newspaper Publishing as an extracurriculum. Not that I had expertise in that capacity but I wanted the hands on, grass roots experience from the bottom up and thereby learn the routine from the MastHead, to the story, advertising, typesetting, proofing, layout, production and distribution; and so I learned; next year I became the Editor.
The point is that as Editor I made decisions: on the number of pages, the stories, proofing the stories in addition to the grammar and spelling. I still was not an expert but I made the decisions to make the deadlines and that was part of the job description just as Mr Nelsen exercised his job but it had little to do with my chosen major, psychology.
The controller of student activities does not need to have expertise on the subject of the lecturer but it would be well within his purview to determine if the lecturer had an expertise in the subject of the Topic of the Lecture, “Origins of Life”.
Now what did Mr Mortenson have that qualified him to lecture on the Origins of Life?
1. Basic first degree M.Div. that any student of theology achieves from a divinity school in about three years………..Nothing on the origins of life there, lots of belief and creation ideas and speculation, Christian ethics and apologetics……….
2. BA with specialty in Math from an accredited University. No origins of life there. A three year course in Arts, four year in Science.
3. PhD. in the history of Geology: The history of geology is concerned with the development of the natural science of geology. Geology is the scientific study of the origin, history, and structure of the Earth. NOTE the “natural” science of geology not the “supernatural” science of geology.
Based on academia Mr Mortenson has no qualifications to speak on the Science of the Origin of Life other than being a Creationist with a strong belief system based on Creationism and the 6000 year young earth hypothesis? Who could learn anything about life and the origins of life at the University Education level from Mr Mortenson? NOBODY.
Your defense of Mortenson fails. He knows nothing more or less than you do about life, let alone the Origins of Life; just a bunch of beliefs from a bunch of the ancients who thought killing their children was an appeasement to the Gods, a worthy sacrifice for a bumper crop or proof of love to the God of choice, from a book of text, originally chiseled in stone, that you can’t understand or consider outside the framework of a supernatural, paranormal, entity residing in some weird dimension and which by your own admission, no man on earth is capable of understanding in the first place.
I mean what is Mortenson qualified to lecture on except religious insanity?
Which brings me back to the bible belt. Widely recognized of course as an area of outstanding natural stupidity, and with very good reason, especially when you consider the millions of dollars that have been spent in building creation museums. Just think of the psychotherapy that money could have paid for.
Creation museums are the latest symptom of the insanity to hit the United States and they are of course inspired 100 percent by scripture. At the moment they seem to be popping up like mushrooms in a spontaneous eruption of life ironically enough all over the land of the free.
These are places of education where Christian children can go to learn the truth, that their parents are morons and quite possibly insane. They learn that Adam and Eve, not only existed, in all their Disney-like, fig-leaf, apple chomping way but they rode around the place on dinosaurs.
The dinosaurs of course died out eventually although one dinosaur is still with us unfortunately. And that is creationism’s very own, Ignoramus Rex. A small brain creature with a hard outer shell, impervious to reason, feeds exclusively on scripture and its copious droppings have not only been used to build these museums but can serve as a useful metaphor for everything in them.
If you’ve got a head full of scripture then what you’ve got is a head full of ideas that have stopped growing; that’ll be a head full of dead ideas then. And you have no right to have those ideas respected or taken seriously. You’re simply not entitled to it and you’ve certainly got no business using them to tell other people how they should live their lives because you don’t know anything.
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July 14, 2016 at 9:23 pm
ltg,
Thanks for proving my point. As you wrote, “Based on academia…”. You’ve also confirmed the location of the oxygen deficiency for me. Thanks for that too.
As to your view of the Bible, I’d place you and your sycophantic sidekick M. Perri right along side the likes of Westcott & Hort. Being a psych major you may not be familiar with them. Look them up. You’ll see it’s true. Birds of a feather really do flock together.
As always I’ll provide you with a worthwhile assist to get you started.:
http://www.graceway.com/articles/article_025.html
– Frank
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July 15, 2016 at 7:56 am
Frank:
Thanks for proving Jesus words of caution and proverbial message so true it is indeed as Jesus said in Matthew 7:6.
Do you do have an uncanny way of fulfilling the words of Jesus even as you use everybody else in the bible to prove otherwise.
I’ll be far more selective in divulging any personal information from henceforth to you.
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July 15, 2016 at 8:10 am
Practical advice:
“Listen to me, you who pursue righteousness, who seek the LORD: look to the rock from which you were hewn and to the quarry from which you were dug.” (Isaiah 51:1)
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July 15, 2016 at 2:37 pm
Following Jonathan Wells’s acclaimed book, Icons of Evolution, this video lecture/interview with Dr. Wells focuses on 6 of the 10 icons in the book. Wells shows how biology textbooks distort the scientific evidence to promote Darwinian evolution and the naturalistic philosophy that underlies it.
Darwin called his theory “descent with modification.” In the first half of his lecture Wells tackles “descent” by examining three textbook icons: Darwin’s Tree of Life, Homology in Vertebrate Limbs, and Haeckel’s Embryos. In the second half of his lecture Wells examines “modification” with a close look at three more icons: the Peppered Moths, Darwin’s Finches, and Four-Winged Fruit Flies.
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July 16, 2016 at 5:53 am
O My people! Their oppressors deal severely, and women rule over them. O My people! Those who guide you lead you astray and confuse the direction of your paths. (Isaiah 3:12)
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July 17, 2016 at 7:47 pm
As part of a series of James Gregory Public Lectures, the Rt Revd professor N. T. Wright delivered a lecture – ‘Can a Scientist Trust the New Testament?’ in the main Physics Theatre at the University of St Andrews, on the 17th February 2014. Tom Wright is one of today’s best known and respected New Testament scholars. Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdKLaI…
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July 17, 2016 at 7:50 pm
As part of a series of James Gregory Public Lectures, the Rt Revd professor N. T. Wright delivered a lecture – ‘Can a Scientist Trust the New Testament?’ in the main Physics Theatre at the University of St Andrews, on the 17th February 2014. Tom Wright is one of today’s best known and respected New Testament scholars. This is the QandA session following on from the lecture. Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PodVGM…
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July 23, 2016 at 8:26 am
Bob,
About that book on evolution:
In this exclusive interview, Dr. Charles Thaxton challenges the assumption that time, chance, and natural processes are sufficient to explain the origin of life. He responds to over 50 questions, including:
Why do you consider the origin of life to be a mystery?
What are the major problems with origin of life simulation experiments?
Are the initial conditions in the simulation experiment plausible?
Are DNA sequences analogous to a written language?
Could you summarize the reasons why you believe intelligence was involved in the origin of life?
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July 23, 2016 at 10:02 am
I would like to hear the answer or a reason why some species on planet earth are poisonous and others are not…..take reptiles for example, some species of fish, insects and the like are highly venomous while others not so endowed mimic their poisonous cousins so as to be protected from predators just by looking poisonous!
Neither evolutionists nor creationists are able to put forth a reasonable explanation;
Evolutionist say The simple answer is evolution; over millions of years, different snakes: muscular bodies for potential food, others modified their saliva into venom with varying toxicity. Second answer: chiefly because different species of snakes are adapted(by evolution) to different methods of hunting and different prey; snakes that take immobile or helpless prey such as eggs and nestlings don’t need and haven’t evolved venom.(OR could it be that snakes that could not rather than would not produce venom could only eat immobile prey like eggs and nestlings?)
This kind of answer sounds to me like there was a Snake Convention in the year 1 billion BCE or some time line like that and all the snakes wiggled their way around the conference table and took a vote: some voted on the Nuclear option, Venom( the war snakes) and some voted on less lethal, Non Nuclear option no venom( the peace snakes). There was a split and the two groups went off to conquer their world.
Now what would the Creationist say? Well first off, all snakes were condemned to crawl on their belly all the days of their life and so away they went to snake church and prayed to their snake god for tools of the trade to help them survive but the snake god refused to give out snake tools and told the snakes they would have to learn on their own and evolve the best way they could. Some snakes sought out poisonous prey and ate the children until they became what they ate and eventually developed the poisonous venom they accumulated in their system.
On the other hand perhaps quantum physics has a hitherto unknown hand for interacting with everything in the macro-world to determine outcomes considered spontaneous creation of miraculous evolution or otherwise appear to be an evolutionary marvel of miraculous creation. Maybe Evolution and Creation really are one and the same.
But as yet neither Creationists nor Evolutionists have answers because neither has knowledge….One has belief and the other has theory. But only knowledge can set one free from “belief and theory”, to “know” truth is a human quest well travelled and traveling still.
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July 23, 2016 at 10:07 am
FA:
On The Origin of Life:
Whether or not nature has evolved to make use of quantum phenomena to help organisms make fuel from light, tell north from south, or distinguish vanilla from clove, the strange properties of the atomic world can still tell us a lot about the finer workings of living cells
“There is a second way of seeing how quantum mechanics interacts with biology, and that is by sensing and probing,” Huelga says. “Quantum probes would be able to shed light on many interesting things in the dynamics of biological systems.”
And whether or not nature got there first, it’s no excuse for us not to mix biology with quantum phenomena to develop new technologies, she says. Making use of quantum effects in biologically inspired photovoltaic cells, for instance, could give solar panels a huge boost in efficiency. “At this very moment there is quite a lot of activity in organic photovoltaics, to see whether with natural or artificial structures one can have an enhanced efficiency that exploit quantum effects.”
So even if alternative, as yet entirely unknown mechanisms emerge for these stubborn biological puzzles, biologists and quantum physicists certainly won’t have seen the last of each other. “This will definitely be a story with a happy end,” she says.
source:
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160715-organisms-might-be-quantum-machines
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July 23, 2016 at 1:06 pm
I would like to see scientists produce a cell membrane.
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July 23, 2016 at 2:11 pm
Here you go Frank: another tidbit for you to argue your heart out over.
A living, eating self replicating organism…SYNTHETIC LIFE
MAR 24, 2016 @ 02:00 P
After 20 Year Quest, Biologists Create Synthetic Bacteria With No Extra Genes
Matthew Herper , FORBES STAFF
I cover science and medicine, and believe this is biology’s century.
“The entire field of biology has been missing a third of what is essential for life in any given cell,”
A team lead by the biologist J. Craig Venter has created, in the laboratory, a species of bacteria with a genetic code smaller than any known to exist in nature–basically creating a new organism with a minimal code necessary for life.
“The goal of completely defining what it means to be considered alive has taken a giant step forward,” says Sir Richard Roberts, who won the 1993 Nobel Prize in biology and is now chief scientific officer of New England Biolabs.
The new microbe, dubbed JCVI-syn3.0 473 genes. Of these, 149 genes have completely unknown function. Those will become publicly available in a database, Genbank, when the research is published in Science today.
“The entire field of biology has been missing a third of what is essential for life in any given cell,” says Venter, who is chairman of the J. Craig Venter Institute. “As we move up the evolutionary tree we’re probably missing a whole lot more.”
JCVI-syn3.0 also represents a step forward for the field of synthetic biology, which aims to make living things as engineer-able and programmable as the machines of metal and silicon.
“It doesn’t do anything magical rather than live, eat, and self-replicate,” Venter says. But it is, he says, “the first designer organism in history.
source:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2016/03/24/bio-maverick-craig-venter-hacks-bacteria-to-have-tiniest-possible-genetic-code/#4c9b6d201e9b
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July 23, 2016 at 2:59 pm
ltg,
Allow me to clarify. I’m referring to abiogenic (not produced by the action of living organisms) replication of a cell membrane by scientists. Synthetic biology has made significant strides. If I understand correctly, now that Venter has published his results the peer review process will work its course. There’s been fascinating work going on in the area of synthetic human blood & skin for years:
http://www.jimmunol.org/content/129/2/678.short
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July 23, 2016 at 3:01 pm
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X1543917X
Let’s hope the promise reaches fulfillment.
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July 23, 2016 at 4:19 pm
I confused as to where this is going. It’s actually quite easy to make a cell membrane. They are essentially micelles, 3D aggregates of soap molecules, which form spontaneously in water. Expose a prebiotic atmosphere of CO2, ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, water and sulfur gases to UV irradiation (or underwater volcanic vents) and you get organic base molecules. In the presence of certain clays, the organic bases will condense into linear chains. Encase the linear base chains inside a micelle and you have the makings of a primitive virus. This is the basis of the “RNA world” hypothesis model for the origin of life. Granted, it is a long from a primitive virus to permeable cell membranes and the 23 chromosomes of human DNA. But just because the questions are hard doesn’t mean scientists should take the easy way out, give up and agree that only God could do it. As I have said before, on numerous occasions, the God hypothesis is an intellectual dead end to the growth of scientific knowledge.
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July 24, 2016 at 8:57 am
Bob,
First, let me make it clear, I am not a scientist. I recognize that when it comes to technical details in the specifics of any scientific area of specialization I am not in my zone of competence. But I do have a curious open mind and I am capable of analytical thinking.
In Dr. Thaxton’s interview he discusses some fundamental challenges to the concept of abiogenesis (the definition of a prebiotic atmosphere, application of UV radiation and information as language among others). Take the time to watch it if you haven’t done so already.
You’ve evidently come to the conclusion that acceptance of God automatically shuts down successful scientific inquiry. [“the God hypothesis is an intellectual dead end to the growth of scientific knowledge.”] From my observation and experience I don’t see that as the case (Dr. Thaxton himself being a reasonable example and my otolaryngologist another). Your view that because someone has trust in the Almighty this means they’ll just roll over and ascribe God as the solution to any and every question raised about the natural world therefore they’re incapable of conducting competent science reminds me of the view that some tried to associate with JFK when he ran for the Presidency. Oh, we can’t elect him because he’s a Catholic. If he becomes president then the Pope will be running Washington, D.C. As he demonstrated once elected this was a bogus assumption. Did it ever occur to you that trust in one’s Creator can have exactly the opposite effect causing a fervent desire to understand His works and pursue their relevance. Whether you yourself believe in the Creator or not isn’t the issue. The question is whether or not you think reasonable people are capable of objective inquiry. Or does trust in the Creator define someone as unreasonable? Would you exclude someone from jury service simply because they’re Christian or Jewish or Mazdayasna? Or does the fact that they hold to a Creator define them in your eyes as someone precluded from the possibility of genuinely participating in viable investigative activities? Is it impossible for police detectives to competently investigate criminal behavior because they’re Christian? And if so, then why.
Since you mention the “God hypothesis” take a look at the other side of the coin so to speak, “The Devil’s Delusion”.
David Berlinski is the author of a number of books, including the recent volumes One, Two, Three: Absolutely Elementary Mathematics and The Devil’s Delusion: Atheism and Its Scientific Pretensions.
Berlinski asserts that “a great many men and women have a dull, hurt, angry sense of being oppressed by the sciences. They are frustrated by endless scientific boasting. They suspect that … the scientific community holds them in contempt. They are right to feel this way.” With Darwin’s theory of evolution as a point of departure, he takes scientists to task for their anti-religious assumptions and explores the conflict between the scientific community and those with firmly held religious beliefs.
– Frank
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July 24, 2016 at 11:38 am
Continuing post # 59.:
Journalist and Researcher Richard Milton presents a case that what we have been taught about Darwin’s theory of evolution is totally wrong and that this most fundamental belief with respect to human origins should be completely re-evaluated by main stream scientific and academic institutions. Author of the book “Shattering The Myths of Darwinism,” Richard Milton does not represent the Creationist movement either. He simply states, that Darwin’s theory of evolution does not stand up to logical scientific scrutiny. Get the facts in this original uncut interview that was filmed for the production of the NBC Special Documentary “The Mysterious Origins of Man – Rewriting Human History,”
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July 25, 2016 at 5:52 am
Frank, I’m disappointed. Despite your claim to the contrary, Milton is indeed a young earth creationist. If you want to get my attention, you will need to reference information from actual scientists who have published their work in peer reviewed scientific journals.
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July 25, 2016 at 8:12 am
Bob,
You’re mistaken. I made no such claim regarding Richard Milton. From what I posted he identifies himself as a journalist and a researcher. And in case you missed it; he also specifically says in his interview that he is NOT a young earth creationist. If you have valid evidence to the contrary you should post it along with your remark so that it can be tested and verified as well. Otherwise, you’re simply proving Milton’s point that there are a significant number of so called “scientists” that attempt to denigrate the messenger rather than honestly refute the message.
I’d say Richard Milton is a published author:
http://www.richardmilton.net/
Do you dismiss Dr. Charles Thaxton and the co-authors of his book or David Berlinski for failing your litmus test as well? If so, state your reasons plainly and present verifiable substantiation for your claims. A simple bum’s rush doesn’t cut it.
I’d also think it respectful of you if you’d genuinely respond to the questions I asked you in post # 59. They’re not rhetorical questions.
– Frank
P.S. You’ve drawn my attention by your recent comments. Since you identify yourself as a “retired scientist”; do you have any professional publications of your own that have been peer reviewed and if so where can I locate them?
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July 25, 2016 at 9:40 am
A FEW observations I note about Milton:
The number of skeptics who reject an idea is completely irrelevant to the truth of the idea. Ideas such as alien abduction, homeopathy, psychokinesis, orgone energy, ESP, free energy, spontaneous human combustion, and the rejection of evolution–all favored by Milton–are not supported in the least by the fact that these ideas are trashed by thousands of skeptics.
Milton’s book The Facts of Life is “twaddle that betrays, on almost every page, complete and total pig-ignorance of the subject at hand.” –Richard Dawkins
Like many believers in the paranormal, Milton is quite impressed with the statistical data of people defending claims that they have scientific evidence for such things as telepathy or psychokinesis.
If a reasonable explanation of paranormal phenomena is ever made and compelling evidence is produced to support belief in ESP, etc., mainstream scientists will jump on the bandwagon as they have in the past
Milton’s attack on natural selection is an attack on a position quite distinct from the theory of natural selection. Milton attacks an idea few, if any, hold today. He attacks an ideology he characterizes as a godless philosophy of materialism, embracing the meaningless of life in a dog-eat-dog world of brute aggression. Natural selection implies nothing about the existence of God or a spiritual realm. It implies nothing about a Creator who does or does not meddle in evolution. It implies nothing about the kind of social world we have or should have. An evolutionary biologist is certainly free to believe that God designed evolution.
Milton seems to have a naive view of open-mindedness. He calls CSICOP the Paradigm Police and takes a dim view of anyone who criticizes, boycotts, protests, etc. the promotion of junk science. He seems to think that what is true in politics ought to be true in science. We should have laissez faire science and let the most popular view win out. Milton seems to think that we should determine scientific truth by public vote.
The Facts of Life: Shattering the Myths of Darwinism is a re-evaluation of the Darwinist evolutionary mechanism of the natural selection of genetic mutations. Milton has criticised neo-Darwinism. Milton also claimed in his book that the earth may be as young as 175,000 years old, based on the amount of helium in the atmosphere.
HOWEVER………Milton appeared on The Mysterious Origins of Man, a television special arguing that mankind has lived on the Earth for tens of millions of years, and that mainstream scientists have suppressed supporting evidence.
His books, especially those on scientific controversies, have been roundly rejected. To his critics Milton is a contrarian who engages in controversy for its own sake, while to his supporters he is a writer unafraid to tackle uncomfortable subjects and orthodoxies that have become dogmas. Milton is shunned in the field of evolution as he is a neo-Lamarckian who has supported the experiments of Paul Kammerer (Lamarckism (or Lamarckian inheritance) is the idea that an organism can pass on characteristics that it has acquired during its lifetime to its offspring (also known as heritability of acquired characteristics or soft inheritance).
I can’t find anybody saying anything without controversy about Richard Milton.
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July 25, 2016 at 8:25 pm
ltg,
Re: post # 63.
I found this in a cursory google search:
http://www.academia.edu/1597065/The_Facts_of_Life_Shattering_the_Myths_of_Darwinism
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July 25, 2016 at 11:13 pm
Philosopher and scientist David Berlinski (author of The Devil’s Delusion) on the shortcomings of evolution.
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July 26, 2016 at 10:54 am
A perspective on Darwinism from a legal scientist’s point of view:
Speaker: Phillip E. Johnson
A unified theory, says physicist Stephen Hawking, would be the ultimate triumph of human reason and would allow us to “know the mind of God.” Philip Johnson begins his talk by pointing out that such a theory would allow humans not to know the mind of God, but rather to be omniscient. Johnson proceeds to give his audience a guided tour of the history of Darwin’s ideas of evolution and their ramifications and implications in present day society. Ultimately, Johnson provides convincing arguments against the “scientific game” that assumes a materialistic reality in its pursuit of an explanation of the universe and exposes many of the problems of evolutionary theory.
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July 26, 2016 at 11:26 am
Continuing post # 66.:
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July 26, 2016 at 11:34 am
Frank:
The article you retrieved from your cursory search in google is a lot of “science” information to wade through and while I am not predisposed to “wade through”, I did come across a small article on Radiogenic Helium which seems to offer simple reasoning to explain the lack of Helium in our atmosphere which Milton believes that even the small amount of Helium based on his interpretation of Helium accumulation that has accumulated does not even support his idea that the earth is only 175, 000 years old……
“Where is the Earth’s Radiogenic Helium?
MELVIN A. COOK
Department of Metallurgy, University of Utah, Salt Lake City. Oct. 10.
AT the estimated 2 × 1020 gm. uranium and 5 × 1020 gm. thorium in the lithosphere, helium should be generated radiogenically at a rate of about 3 × 109 gm./year. Moreover, the (secondary) cosmic-ray source of helium has been estimated to be of comparable magnitude. Apparently nearly all the helium from sedimentary rocks and, according to Keevil1 and Hurley2, about 0.8 of the radiogenic helium from igneous rocks, have been released into the atmosphere during geological times (currently taken to be about 5 × 109 yr.). Hence more than 1020 gm. of helium should have passed into the atmosphere since the ‘beginning’. Because the atmosphere contains only 3.5 × 1015 gm. helium-4, the common assumption is therefore that about 1020 gm. of helium-4 must also have passed out through the exosphere, and that its present rate of loss through the exosphere balances the rate of exudation from the lithosphere.”
But I know now what the exosphere and the lithosphere are.
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July 26, 2016 at 12:24 pm
Frank:
Okay, I’ll concede, Milton doesn’t actually claim to be a YEC. All he will commit to is that the planet is older than man’s existence. I assume that is a bit of wry humor on his part. I would certainly hope that the Earth existed before man did.
However, in his Shattering the Myths of Darwinism:
Chapter 2 – first insinuation that the Earth is not as old as required for Darwinism to be true
Chapter 3 – first insinuation that radioisotope dating of earth strata is invalid
Chapter 4 – straw man criticism of carbon-14 dating, as C14 is not used to date rock strata
Chapter 5 – claims (falsely) that uranium-lead and potassium-argon dating are invalid, a necessary prerequisite if one is to subsequently claim the Earth is not as old as geologists say it is
Chapters 6 and 7 – dismissal of plate tectonics as an explanation of continental drift
Chapter 8 – agreement with, praise for and deference to the writings of Mormon apologist Melvin Cook (a firm believer in James Ussher’s 6000 year old Earth) concerning his assertion as to the rapid formation of coal and oil deposits.
You are free to believe any and all of Milton’s eclectic mix of assertions about the non-validity of Darwinian evolution. No one who actually practices modern day science agrees with him.
By the way, neo-lamarckism, also known as epigenesis, is a bit of a misnomer. Larmarck believed that inherited traits are a mix of traits of the parents. As an oversimplified example, if I am 5 feet tall and my wife is 6, then our children should be 5 1/2 feet tall (actually I’m 5-8, my wife is 5-7 and our son is 6-4; tall relatives on my wife’s side of the family). Geneticists rejected Lamarck’s explanations of phenotype variation decades ago. Epigenesis, first reported in 2008, is the change in phenotypic traits in offspring due to environmental stress (a concept rejected by Lamarck, thus the misnomer) without mutations of the underlying DNA. However, don’t get your hopes up that this will put a nail in the coffin of Darwinian evolution based on gene mutation. Whatever mechanisms are occurring at the molecular level in epigenetic gene expression, the effect is only temporary. The epigenetic traits revert to their original phenotype after the second or third generation (something the Discovery Institute never mentions in their articles on neo-lamarckism).
As another aside, I took a break from Terry’s hermeneutics to read Edward Larson’s Summer of the Gods, a history of the 1925 Scopes trial, portrayed in the press as an epic battle between Bible fundamentalist Williams Jennings Bryan and atheist Clarence Darrow. What struck me were the arguments the two sides used against each other. They were essentially the same ones we use today. A hundred years of debating Darwin and we still toss the same talking points back and forth at each other.
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July 26, 2016 at 1:09 pm
ltg,
Here’s another intriguing possibility for examination & exploration:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11539139
Now, we just have to deal with paleocurrents, petrified forests, chalk deposits, the loss of time factor in the geologic record, the inconsistencies in the fossil record & the Cambrian Explosion, the anomalies of Mesopotamia not to mention particulars involving UV radiation and defining planet Earth’s prebiotic atmosphere while detangling the web encysting the origin of information.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/45229/45229-h/45229-h.htm
– Frank
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July 26, 2016 at 1:38 pm
Bob,
Now that you’ve taken the opportunity to air your claims maybe you’ll put up the evidence upon which you base them. You also might go back to what was referenced in post #s 59. & 62. and respond, particularly to my postscript.
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July 26, 2016 at 4:31 pm
A slice of the history and legacy of Darwinism in America:
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July 26, 2016 at 4:48 pm
In this fascinating interview, Phillip Johnson offers his unique insight into the philosophical basis of modern Darwinian theory and the many scientific problems which confront it. With his breadth of knowledge and keen intellect, Professor Johnson brings a fresh perspective to the timeless issue of origins.
Phillip Johnson answers more than 20 questions, including:
• How does a lawyer’s perspective help in evaluating scientific theories?
• What do you consider to be the best evidence for evolution?
• What do you consider to be the major problems in Darwinian theory?
• If Darwinian theory is such poor science, why don’t more scientists reject it?
• Why are you convinced that Darwinism is more philosophy than science?
• Could scientists come to the conclusion that natural processes prevent major evolutionary
change from occurring?
• What are the primary reasons that creation is rejected as an alternative to the general
theory of evolution?
• Does the uncritical teaching of Darwinism undermine support for public education?
• Does the uncritical teaching of Darwinism constitute the establishment of a secular
religion?
• What can be taught legally in the science classroom?
Phillip E. Johnson is a graduate of Harvard and the University of Chicago. He was a law clerk for Chief Justice Earl Warren of the United States Supreme Court and has taught law for more than twenty years at the University of California, Berkeley. He is author of the widely acclaimed book, Darwin on Trial.
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July 27, 2016 at 4:42 am
Sorry Frank, no slight was intended. I just forgot about your postscript. I have 3 publications related to my undergraduate and graduate research (written by my research advisors, not me), and a dozen patents, the last one of which was granted about 7 years ago. I looked for them on Google and Google Scholar but couldn’t find them. They may be buried on pages 191 or 342 of the citation listings, but I can’t be sure. There are better search methods for scientific publications, but they require an annual fee for access. It’s a bit ironic, actually. Science prides itself on open access to knowledge as a basis for insuring the intergrity of its efforts, then charges a fee to outsiders to access it. My subsriptions to those services expired when I retired.
Your other points are related to the unwritten rules of the scientific method, the nature of scientific truth and what constitutes scientific scholarship. Hidden in the apparent animosity between science and religion is the political efforts by the Discovery Institute to undermine the teaching of and application of those unwritten rules. I could write a thesis on all of that but I will compose a response for you. Give me a day or two (or three).
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July 27, 2016 at 1:18 pm
Bob,
Thank you for responding. Information access certainly does become a costly proposition, especially in the digital age. Manipulating electrons proves more challenging than lickin’ stamps. I’m actually more curious as to your field of discipline particularly since you invent (a dozen patents).
Please take whatever time you require to formulate & send your reply to the other matters. I realize it can take a few moments to think of a pertinent question but hours to fully develop the apposite response.
Meanwhile, here’s a couple of insightful articles on some of the topics we’ve recently discussed, such as molecular replication, abiogenesis & the origin of species [human]:
http://www.reasons.org/articles/nobel-winning-dna-research-challenges-evolutionary-theory
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/todays-new-reason-to-believe/were-humans-specially-created-or-did-they-evolve-from-a-hominid
– Frank
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July 27, 2016 at 5:54 pm
Dr. Michael Strauss is respected both in the National Laboratories where he conducts research in experimental elementary particle physics, and the university classroom where he has received many teaching awards. In this exclusive interview at UC Santa Barbara, Strauss tackles a number of provocative questions relating to the origins and design of our universe. He relates how the evidence pointing to an expanding universe and a moment of creation troubled many scientists in the 20th Century. As a result of mounting evidence for the beginning of the universe and the exquisite fine-tuning of natural laws and physical parameters necessary for life, most of these scientists have come to acknowledge a “superintellect” behind it all.
Interview Questions:
1. Would you briefly describe your educational and professional background?
2. How did you develop an interest in the study of physics and cosmology?
3. What have been the prevailing scientific theories of the origin of the universe?
4. How did the shift from a steady-state model of the universe to the Big Bang model take place?
5. Could you discuss some of the submodels of the Big Bang?
6. What are some of the problems with the oscillating model of the Big Bang?
7. Would you comment on Stephen Hawking’s Brief History of Time?
8. What is your take on the Anthropic Principle?
9. What lines of evidence are there for an intelligent design of the universe?
10. Could you give other examples of fine tuning in the universe?
11. How finely tuned must the subatomic world be?
12. How do those who do not believe in a designer explain the fine tuning of the cosmos?
13. What are the strengths of a purely materialistic worldview?
14. What are some of the weaknesses of a purely materialistic worldview?
15. Can a materialistic worldview distort scientific inquiry?
16. How did the Christian worldview play a role in the rise of modern science?
17. In his book, “God and the Astronomers,” Robert Jastrow, a self-proclaimed agnostic wrote, “For the scientist who has lived by faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.” Would you comment on Jastrow’s thoughts?
18. Paul Davies has moved from promoting atheism to conceding that “the laws [of physics] ? seem themselves to be the product of exceedingly ingenious design” (Superforce, p. 243). He further testifies, “There is for me powerful evidence that there is something going on behind it all ? it seems as though somebody has fine-tuned nature’s numbers to make the Universe ? The impression of design is overwhelming” (The Cosmic Blueprint, p. 203). Would you comment on Davies’ conclusions?
19. Please comment on the following statement by Allan Sandage: “We can’t understand the universe in any clear way without the supernatural.”
20. Please comment on these remarks by Albert Einstein: “The scientist is possessed by the sense of universal causation ? His religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.”
21. Please comment on the following remarks by Sir Fred Hoyle: “A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with the physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question.”
22. Where did the idea originate that Christianity and science are in conflict? How many universes would be required to make our finely tuned universe plausible by chance? So why isn’t a multiverse theory scientific? Does the multi-universe theory tell us more about the objective reality or subjective belief? Does it tell us more about a person’s mind or heart?
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July 27, 2016 at 9:23 pm
“We have repeatedly emphasized the fundamental problems posed for the biologist by the fact of life’s complex organization. We have seen that organization requires work for its maintenance and that the universal quest for food is in part to provide the energy needed for this work. But the simple expenditure of energy is not sufficient to develop and maintain order. A bull in a china shop performs work, but he neither creates nor maintains organization. The work needed is particular work; it must follow specifications; it requires information on how to proceed.”
(Simpson, George Gaylord & Beck, William S. [Harvard University)
http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/838
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July 28, 2016 at 7:00 pm
Plato’s Republic uses political science to isolate humanity from The Almighty:
Series exploring the coming New World Order from a Christian perspective. In this part we look at the type of society the Illuminists wanted to create – societies based on the Mystery influenced writings of Plato.
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July 28, 2016 at 7:05 pm
Science Dictatorships breed Scientism:
Series exploring the coming New World Order from a Christian perspective. Having seen how Satan looked to control and dominate the flows of information in a religious context during the Dark Ages with a centralised hierarchy (Catholic church), we find him repeating the trick in the Enlightenment era as people turned towards science for the answers.
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July 28, 2016 at 7:09 pm
Series exploring the coming New World Order from a Christian perspective. In this part we look at the theory of evolution as an extension of the occult Mystery philosophy first whispered to Adam and Eve by the serpent in the Garden of Eden.
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July 28, 2016 at 7:12 pm
Series exploring the coming New World Order from a Christian perspective. In this part, how the philosophy behind Evolution led to ideas of utopia, supermen, eugenics and population control.
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July 28, 2016 at 7:22 pm
Series exploring the coming New World Order from a Christian perspective. In this part, a key principle used to create order out of chaos or harmony out of conflict and a one world order out of many cultures; the Hegelian Principle.
But is this a realistic objective or as what’s happening today in Europe seems to indicate it’s the Entropic Principle that will prevail:
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July 29, 2016 at 7:17 am
Published on Jun 22, 2016
The global elite are now in the process of unveiling that which they have been hiding for centuries. There is a spiritual war taking place on planet earth at this very moment. Look no further than the Gotthard Tunnel opening ceremony on June 1st in Switzerland. The nearly $9 million dollar occult riddled ritual featured Baphomet copulating with human women, the bride of satan giving birth, all seeing eyes and an endless amount of other Satanic symbology. Meanwhile over at CERN’s Large Hadron Collider (LHC) project in the same country we see Shiva the God of Destruction standing proudly in front of CERN’s headquarters. And the CERN movie ‘Symmetry’ makes their aims perfectly clear, they are actively trying to break the barrier between that which is seen and unseen. Again, the elite seem Hell bent on ushering in their NWO Beast system and at this point they have stopped hiding it. Would it really surprise any of you who understand this information if you were to find out that Darwin’s theories on the Origins of Species are also nothing more than lies based on deplorably bad “science” in order to get the world’s population to dismiss the notion of a Creator altogether? If the elite could get the whole world to believe this beautiful planet and all who inhabit it are nothing more than a random accident, they could get humanity to lower its spiritual shields thereby making it far easier to usher in the global system they seek, helmed by the one they secretly serve, Satan. Spiritual warfare on planet earth is alive and well – and you have been lied to. Author James Perloff joins me to deconstruct Darwin. And share proof that God is real…
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July 29, 2016 at 12:19 pm
Frank:
You need to unsubscribe from Sgt Bullcrap.
Shiva? In Lord Shiva truly nothing is destroyed but the illusion of individuality and the falsity of ego with which religions are richly endowed.
Do you think the cows of India are any different than the Goats of MDjedet, Egypt. Hardly any different than Sun worship as the giver of life were the animals that also provided life to the people, goats and cows we have domesticated for a long time and the imaginative minds of men translated sex into the way of life..the bible even
Gen 6:1 “Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, 2that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose.”
Wouldn’t you agree their is something very sexual about that description by the Gods?
You are missing the point when you say: “If the elite could get the whole world to believe this beautiful planet and all who inhabit it are nothing more than a random accident………….It is not random we just have not found the knowledge to explain it yet!
Humanity knows a priori that the beautiful planet and all who inhabit it, is not random but neither evolution nor religion sufficiently explains the cause.
The NWO you attribute to the elite’s preparation for satan is so last millennia and a misplaced analogy. NWO is already in progress but not for the reason you cite; in fact, it is no different than what Religion itself calls the New Heaven and the New Earth which opines the transition from the Old Era to the New Era.
The fact is, Humanity is Uniting Humans (HUH) as in Secularism that is supplanting the cultural and religious barriers that have separated the world ever since the story of the world’s people being divided by cultures, traditions and religion was described in the story of the Tower of Babel, metaphorically by God (the religious version) confusing the languages to discourage humans from reaching heaven.
The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.” And prevent them from reaching the heavens.
It is only natural for disenfranchised religionists to argue against CERN and the Gotthard Tunnel and you represent the modern Gods(clergy; i.e., prophets through whom the Gods speak after all) in the Convention Room again saying “Come, let us go down and confuse them so they will not understand each other.” using ridiculous arguments about statues being “proud”; a human characteristic given to a statue? Don’t be so crazy.
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July 30, 2016 at 5:07 am
Frank,
I’ve always thought that Shiva was an excellent symbol for the energy and matter interactions inside the CERN collider. It would have never occurred to me that it was some dark, subliminal metaphor for the destruction of the moral values of western civilization by the atheistic methodological naturalism of contemporary science. I’m beginning to question your belief system and whether or not further intellectual engagement would be worthwhile.
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July 30, 2016 at 8:42 am
ob:
As I told Frank before he doesn’t seem to have a belief system himself but it like a leaf blowing hither and thither with the winds of mind meme of others. His latest about Lord Shiva that your last post references is from a cite that was merely copied and pasted, verbatim, except for the last lines about where to buy the Bullcrap Book that’s being promoted on behalf of Author James Perloff
And I suppose Frank thought it was cute for the weird New World Order conspiracy circulating among conspiracists as a catch all black hole for everybody and everything they hate, I suppose. Goodness knows what the motives of conspiracists are but it is not a healthy outlook on reality.
This is where Frank got his “belief System” a couple of days ago and why I told him to unsubscribe to SGT Bullcrap and use his own brain to exercise his neurons:
http://sgtreport.com/2016/06/the-elite-dont-want-you-to-know-god-is-real-heres-the-proof/
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July 30, 2016 at 8:49 am
A couple typo edits Post 86:
Bob ……………for ob
It’s………………for it
memes ………for meme
site…………….for cite
My enthusiasm for the Post sometimes gets ahead of my “better edit” sense. 🙂
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July 30, 2016 at 10:33 am
eo:
I find it useful to type out my responses off-line and post them later, after they stew in the back of my head for awhile. Cuts down on the stupid and irrelevant comments, keeps me from saying things I would later regret and catches most of the typos. To tell the truth, I didn’t even notice the missing B.
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July 30, 2016 at 2:51 pm
THE REAL GOD OF THE REAL JESUS REVEALED:
WORTH REPEATING.
Be still God said; I want you to know something. I’m God.
And if you’re prepared to pause long enough and know that I AM God .
And to recognize where I live, in you. Anything else you need to know?
For if God be for you who can be against you? If only we’d learn to take one step of every moment of every day on the simple assumption that he’s God, lives where he does, sharing his life with us on earth on the way to heaven then we truly will discover that everything that threatens to be over our head is already under his feet. Nothing more complicated about the Christian life than that. One thing we need to learn is simply to credit God as God with being big enough for the job. And give him the opportunity to demonstrate.
You know, whenever the Lord Jesus preached, people were astonished; he was an astonishing preacher. Did you ever notice that, as you turned to the record given of his life on earth in the gospels? For instance in the last 2 verses of the 7th chapter of Matthew’s gospel, Matthew chapter 7 verse 28, And it came to pass when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine. The astonishing doctrines of Jesus Christ.
Now remember, the Lord Jesus never preached from the New Testament, not because he didn’t like it, he just didn’t have it. Surprising how many Christians of long standing haven’t fully grasped the fact that the only bible the Lord Jesus ever had in his hand was the Old Testament. The only bible that the apostles used as they evangelized the then known world in one generation, Old Testament. The only bible the early church possessed, Old Testament. Let anybody undermine your confidence in the Old Testament scriptures and you’ve robbed the Lord Jesus and the early church of the only bible they ever possessed. So it was the Old Testament the Lord Jesus took in his hand and yet the amazing thing is this: though this was that book from which the others were accustomed to preaching, when they listened to the Lord Jesus they were astonished,. For it says in the last verse in that chapter that he taught them as one having authority. Not as the Scribes; in other words, when the Lord Jesus got up, he spoke as though he said what he meant and meant what he said and had the right to say it. Nothing apologetic; he didn’t throw out a few suggestions. He didn’t say “I suppose”, “Maybe”, “I think”. His was a proclamation, not like the Scribe. When the professional preachers got up they nestled in the corner of their pew and went for a quiet doze hoping they’d wake up just before the benediction and preferably after the offering. But when the Lord Jesus,; when he got up, everybody was on the edge of their seat wondering what AMAZING thing he’d say next. He was an astonishing preacher.
One of the modern Christian curses is the Jesus they preach who died compared to the Jesus who lived and walked among us.
They talk incessantly about the Jesus who died for us instead of talking about the Jesus who lived for us. The myth about Jesus death is old hat, pharisaical nonsense that aligns with their dogmatic nonsense belief that the only remission for sins was the taking of life, spilling of blood and sprinkling it on the people for their sins…what utter nonsense and they killed birds and chickens and goats and calves and bulls; whatever they wanted to kill because that was their religion, their ritual, their dogma and so when the Pharisee community hijacked the Jesus’ followers, they simply projected the blood of goats and calves and sheep onto a human and claimed erroneously that the spilling of human blood was the New World Order but in fact it was still perpetuating the dogmatic nonsense of a religious cult out of its cotton picking mind, to justify sacrificing a life….But long before
Jesus was born it was said: “sacrifices and offerings you have not desired, oh Lord”
And the New Christians ate it up, took it like a hungry fish in water, hook, line and sinker and thus kept the myth alive that something, and now someone, had to die for the remission of sin and what the Pharisees actually did was transfer their idiot ritualism onto the crucifixion of Jesus and justified his death for the remission of sin…
I mean if it wasn’t so tragic it would be laughable so here we have Christians today talking about the death of Jesus and dying for our sins over and over to the neglect of his life which is why he came….to reveal the true nature of god…..Jesus the real man, not man as you and I are but Man as he is God, created man to be, and to give a demonstration of living for the Father:
“Don’t you believe Philip that I am in my father and my father is in me? And the words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself; the father who lives in me; he does the work; everything I do, he does; everything I say, he says; everything I am, he is. That’s why when you look at me you see him.
Because you see, the Lord Jesus was not only the truth about God, he was the truth about man because the truth about man is that he was created to be the truth about God! Now if ever there was a man who walked this earth who knew the truth about a man’s humanity and that relationship that must govern that man’s humanity, with God and God with him, that man was Jesus Christ. Luke 17:20-21
God himself lives within the human spirit, that is the essence of Man’s humanity, the absence of which you see all over the world as man behaves with a dog eat dog mentality just eat the other dog first before he eats you; if someone disagrees, lock him up, fight him, injure him or kill him outright and so go humans through life, in ignorance because of religion and never know the truth and operates with the utmost disrespect for the sanctity of life and substitute God in their lives first and foremost, with the cares and riches and pleasures of a maniacal world madhouse of every bee for himself, mastered by none….Can you imagine what a bee swarm would look like if it started behaving like Man?
Can you imagine if in a bee swarm of 80.000 bees, suddenly, the rigid interlock between the instinctive thrust and the bee soul were to snap in every member of that 80,000 swarm? So that every bee in an awful moment of catastrophe became ego-bee-centric? Every bee for himself. I don’t want to be governed by instinct, I’m free, to do as I please.
So the nurse bees stop nursing the eggs, and feeding, they’d say the little suckers can go and get their own food; not going to work my fingers to the bone feeding them; and of course, the air conditioners stop flapping as they stand flapping all day say, here they can do their own flapping, and the worker bees would march up and down with red flags saying food for the workers, every bee for himself, mastered by none. What would happen to that bee swarm? I don’t have to tell you, exactly what has already happened to human society. That’s why when I get on a plane, I’ll be frisked, my hand baggage will be put through an electronic device to make absolutely certain I’m not carrying a bomb to blow up my fellow man. When I’m accommodated in a motel downtown in some major city, in this cultured society, they say please don’t go out at night. I say why not? Are there bears, lions? No, your fellow man waiting to mug you. That’s why we live at this very moment on the threshold of nuclear annihilation.
There would only be one possible solution to the bee swarm. The restoration of the rigid interlock between the instinctive thrust and the bee soul. Then a bee could act intelligently as part of a corporate whole. There’s only one possible solution to human dilemma, get God back into the man and out of the supernatural realm box that religion has put him in and let that God be God, in the man.
Do you know that beautiful verse, 2 Chronicles, Chapter 16 verse 9: “The eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth looking for a man whose heart is perfect toward him”? Not a perfect man because there was none save God’s incarnate son, Jesus, but the Lord’s looking for a man whose heart is perfect toward him. The heart that says I can’t, God never said I could, he can, always said he would. And if you can’t and he can what’s the smartest thing to do? Let him.
This is the whole Christian life in a nutshell. And God says, as he looks throughout the whole earth, his eyes moving to and fro that he might find a man whose heart being perfect toward him, continues that verse, so that he in response in faithfulness to that man’s faith may show himself as God Strong on that man’s behalf. He’s simply saying, “Give me please, any boy, any girl, any man, any woman, any where, who’ll let me be God, in the man. And the Lord Jesus you see though never ever less than God coming into this world to behave as though he were never ever more than man, let God do it. Your right Nicodemus, only one possible explanation for my life, my Father without whom I can do nothing because you see the Father who lives in me, he does the work because I let him.
This is the life of Jesus that we are without excuse because he walked among us so please stop getting hung up about the death and blood for the remission of sins and look to the life of the Lord Jesus for what he came to demonstrate, by his life, to reveal who the real God of humanity is and where he lives, in you and in me……If we let him, we honor his life not his crucifixion. After the crucifixion Jesus showed himself as living, not a dead man as they had supposed but alive and that he survived the belly of Sheol, like Jonah 2:2-3, without disclosing the details of that confidential act:
Then Jesus appearance in their midst:
“But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a (supernatural) ghost.
And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a (supernatural) ghost hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them (the scars and wounds) on his hands and his feet.
And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
And he took it, and did eat before them.”
It was another 8 days before Jesus appeared to “the eleven” again at which time Thomas was with them and felt the healed over scars on his hands, feet and side. In fact the bible indicates that it was over a period of 40 days that Jesus appeared at least 10 times and talked and instructed them as he was preparing to depart (ascend, as Jesus put it) to the Father. However, it is worth noting that: “The number 40 often has a non-literal meaning in the Bible. It is a number that means a relatively long period of time, just as “three” is a number signifying a relatively short period of time. …”Just to be clear about numbers.
And that Jesus appeared to 500…I do not accept that either. Seeing as how Jesus did not entrust himself to no man (except the two regarding the secret resurrection) it is most improbable that Jesus would have revealed himself to so many people so as to jeopardize his life a second time.
As for literal translations, have you ever wondered why Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, that they might come and anoint Him after the tomb was sealed with the large tons-heavy stone? The stone that nobody knows how it rolled away, even though the tomb was guarded by a watch of Roman soldiers?
You see the sinlessness of the Lord Jesus was not that he didn’t tell lies, though he never did; the sinlessness of the Lord Jesus was not that he did not steal though he never stole,; the sinlessness of the Lord Jesus was not that he did not commit adultery, though he never did. The sinlessness of the Lord Jesus as man was that he never ever allowed there to be at any time any possible explanation for anything he ever did, said or was but the father as God in the man. That was his sinlessness. As my father sent me, I’m going to send you. That is the real God, out of the supernatural box, into you and into me.
Oil in the lamp, gas in the car, Christ himself , not his example, not his teachings, not just the beatitudes, Christ himself in the Christian. Putting God back into the man. To be king, in his kingdom. That’s the gospel. Not just of becoming a Christian but being the Christian you say you have become. Not you getting out of hell and into heaven but Christ getting out of supernatural heaven into you so that it becomes demonstrably obvious to everybody in your presence that he’s alive, not in the then and there but clothed with your humanity, in the here and now. Then your life will only have one possible explanation, God in the man. You’ll live miraculously, the impossible life of Jesus Christ, the astonishing preacher.
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July 30, 2016 at 7:10 pm
ltg & Bob,
The paragraph posted before the video in post # 83. serves as its lead-in from the producer of the video. That’s why you see “Published on Jun 22, 2016” just before it. I made post # 83. on July 29, 2016.
I choose to examine ideas in light of a full view in complete context. That doesn’t mean that I accept as true everything I examine nor does it necessarily mean that I reject whatever I examine in total. I seek truth. One thing I do reject are ad hoc labels for ideas or people. I’m also interested to hear out counter points of view. From the video in post # 83. Mr. Perloff has some consistent incisive criticisms to offer concerning the pervading influence Darwinism has foisted on education, religion & science. So does the article I posted in post # 77. Obviously, you’re free to come to your own opinion of them once you’ve examined them competently. Any time you want to discuss that; I’m open to the opportunity.
– Frank
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July 30, 2016 at 7:13 pm
Published on Jul 30, 2012
Hank discusses some of the taboos which have plagued scientific inquiry in the past and a few that still exist today.
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July 30, 2016 at 8:45 pm
Published on Feb 20, 2015
Muhammad Explains the Universe.
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July 30, 2016 at 8:47 pm
Published on Feb 20, 2015
Muhammad explains human reproduction.
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July 30, 2016 at 9:26 pm
Published on Jan 28, 2013
A debate between Phillip E. Johnson and William B. Provine at Stanford University, April 30, 1994.
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July 30, 2016 at 9:32 pm
Published on Feb 1, 2013
Phillip E. Johnson (author of Darwin on Trial) speaks on the real controversy over evolution and creation.
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July 30, 2016 at 9:47 pm
The Philosophy of Religion section of the Tyndale Fellowship hosted a one-day Conference in Hughes Hall, University of Cambridge on Saturday 14th July, 2012. The full title of the Conference was ‘Design in Nature? Scientific and Philosophical Perspectives’. This is the lecture given by Dr Stephen C Meyer at that event.
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July 30, 2016 at 10:06 pm
Is it dumb to take the Bible literally?
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July 30, 2016 at 11:13 pm
FA:
Is it stupid and dull witted to take the bible literally?
Is not a question I would ever need to ask anybody…………..
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July 31, 2016 at 2:36 am
Frank: Did I over-extrapolate? If the projected sequence of events isn’t:
Teaching atheistic Darwinism leads to
The moral collapse of Western culture leads to
The rise of the world-wide hegemony leads to
The birth of the Anti-Christ leads to
The end of human civilization
as Perloff and his buddies suggest, then I stand corrected. But the question remains, why would you even think of granting any validity to the sophistic ramblings of a nut-job like Perloff?
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July 31, 2016 at 12:58 pm
Bob,
Like I said I do reject ad hoc labels for people and ideas. I urge if you truly want to come to a valid assessment of James Perloff’s conclusions then you should view the video in post # 83. from 20:00 – 43:00 wherein you’ll find a cogent discussion of the probability of a living cell being produced by chance, genetics science and the effects of random mutations on evolutionary change (re: sickle cell anemia & malaria), no intermediate transitional forms of species found in the fossil record, no evidence of one species (not even among bacteria) becoming another species, Piltdown man, coelacanth fossil, irreducible complexity: blood clotting cascade process (re: hemophilia), the richness of the human gene pool and the lack of testability for certain tenets of Darwinism.
I have no interest in useless labels. What I am interested in is an evaluation of facts, not polemics.
– Frank
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July 31, 2016 at 1:04 pm
Published on Sep 29, 2014
Dr. Michael Behe is Professor of Biochemistry, Lehigh University, and Senior Fellow, Discovery Institute. Dr. Behe has a Ph.D. in Biochemistry, from the University of Pennsylvania. He has authored more than 40 technical papers and the groundbreaking book, Darwin’s Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution.
Dr. Henry Schaefer is the Director of the Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry, University of Georgia; and Graham Perdue Professor of Chemistry. He holds the Ph.D. in Chemical Physics, from Stanford University. Dr. Schaefer is the Editor-in-Chief of Molecular Physics and President of the World Association of Theoretically Oriented Chemists, and has authored more than 975 scientific publications and is a five-time nominee for the Nobel Prize. Panelists included Drs. William Dembski, Jed Macosko, Paul Nelson, and Jonathan Wells.
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July 31, 2016 at 1:20 pm
Frank:
Are you really saying that this is evidence for creationism or against evolution because the two are mutually exclusive: and the one has no bearing on the other.
“you’ll find a cogent discussion of the probability of a living cell being produced by chance, genetics science and the effects of random mutations on evolutionary change (re: sickle cell anemia & malaria), no intermediate transitional forms of species found in the fossil record, no evidence of one species (not even among bacteria) becoming another species, Piltdown man, coelacanth fossil, irreducible complexity: blood clotting cascade process (re: hemophilia), the richness of the human gene pool and the lack of testability for certain tenets of Darwinism.”
Generally when someone post a retweet or a recomment, or repeats a video; in the absence of commentary to the contrary one assumes that the repeating is an implicit agreement with the item being sent.
If two bacterium are found in the fossil record which are different, how would you determine that the one is the new species of the other? That is as much folly as it is thinking that the fossil record would actually show the transition of the species progress, as the change was happening.
Are the questions posed against evolution or for Intelligent design?
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August 2, 2016 at 7:32 am
Researching mathematically – What are the odds of molecular life originating randomly in nature?:
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The First Law of Informatics: information cannot emerge spontaneously. It must be encoded by a programmer.
Published on Mar 3, 2012
This documentary video was produced by Bro. Peter Dimond O.S.B. from Most Holy Family Monastery, it serves to refute the theory of evolution. The fact that DNA is so complex and the information embedded to it are unique proves the existence of super intelligent creator who created this miniature machinery.
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August 2, 2016 at 7:51 am
This will help put human molecules in perspective:
Published on Jan 22, 2015
Your body has all sorts of complicated processes going on, and a lot of them are carried out by incredibly powerful molecules. We’re not talking nutrients — we’re talking about 5 of the molecules that keep you ticking!
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August 2, 2016 at 8:25 am
FA:
“The fact that DNA is so complex and the information embedded to it are unique proves the existence…….” of Life Forces we have yet to discover operationally but are known by their function when alien viruses, for example invade, that triggers the immune system but we do not know the receptive triggers of the immune system’s first responders….we see the action and describe the action but we do not know the hows and the whys except to say that Life, Forces…….the X factors, the Y factors, the E factors or the OMG factors…….but what we can rely on is that “……….nothing is secret that will not be revealed and there is nothing hidden that will not be made known………” and this speaks to many issues.
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August 2, 2016 at 2:04 pm
itg,
In response to your post # 102.
You’ve either chosen the path of presupposition once more or you remain ignorant of the facts of the situation you call into question. There’s been no re-commenting nor re-posting of any video on my part. In post # 100. I replied to Bob’s virulent reaction to comments made by James Perloff in the video attached to post # 83. I also referred to a certain section of that same video (20:00 – 43:00) in which Perloff makes his case for refuting Darwinism. He proposes several areas where Darwinism lacks both scientific accuracy (for example, the claim that random mutations produce advanced traits in life forms [re: Perloff’s discussion on sickle cell anemia & hemophilia]) & credibility (certain tenets of Darwinism are not testable [re: Perloff’s discussion of “Lucy” ~ 42:00 into the video]) among others that I listed in summary in post # 100. What I would suggest if you have genuine misunderstanding concerning these things is that you re-watch the video keeping the aforementioned points fresh in your mind when you do so.
Regarding your comment about the bacteria fossils, according to Darwin what fossils will show are transitional forms from one species to another species. However, any of these have yet to be found. According to Darwinism species undergo gradual change over long periods of time to produce new species. Thus, there should be evident fossils demonstrating this gradual incremental transformation of a species, any species, from one kind into another like a cow into a whale. No evidence of this exists even for bacteria species.
http://www.fossilmuseum.net/fossilrecord/fossilization/fossilization.htm
– Frank
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August 2, 2016 at 2:08 pm
Published on Feb 13, 2014
Stephen Meyer is the author of The New York Times best selling book Darwin’s Doubt: The Explosive Origin of Animal Life and the case for Intelligent Design (HarperOne, 2013).
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August 2, 2016 at 2:13 pm
Published on Feb 13, 2014
This video is part 2 of an event held at Biola University called Signature in the Cell: Stephen Meyer Faces his Critics. After a presentation on the arguments of his book, Dr. Meyer addresses his critics one on one in this not-to-be-missed Q&A session.
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August 2, 2016 at 8:12 pm
Science meets Scripture:
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August 3, 2016 at 4:06 pm
Frank,
As I see it, you are not really interested in a truthful assessment of the facts. Judging from the videos you post for our edification, you only read internet postings and watch videos which support a young earth creationist, anti-evolution viewpoint and then accuse the rest of us of not being open minded when we reject those arguments. It’s not a question of open mindedness. I have read nearly all of the major IDC, intelligent design creationist, books, am quite familiar with their arguments and have rejected them as pseudo-scientific nonsense. In contrast, I see no indication that you have read any of the science based books which would refute or at least challenge your viewpoint. For what reason? It can’t be out of fear of losing one’s religious convictions, for it is entirely possible to have a belief in God and still incorporate legitimate science based explanations of nature into one’s worldview. All it requires is a bit of reading and study of contemporary knowledge and an understanding of how the scientific method actually works.
The science of 450 years ago consisted mostly of compiling large, illustrated volumes containing every piece of available information on a given subject, irrespective of the validity of the data. One text on horses, for instance, contained several pages describing the physical characteristics of unicorns (Stephen Gould, 2003). The primary purpose of these compilations was to recover and catalog the knowledge of the Greeks and Romans, after a 1000 year drought of knowledge growth due to the Dark Ages. In these compilations, deference was given to the conjectures of the ancient philosophers to explain the causes of natural phenomena. If a monk happened to be doing the compilations, the Bible was viewed as an inerrant primary reference source. Jump forward 100 years to a new type of science, advocated by Francis Bacon and others and still practiced today, based not on the authority of ancient (often erroneous) conjectures, but on eye witness observation, experimentation and measurement, with reasoned explanations of phenomena that take into account all of the available data, not just the data selected to support a predetermined philosophical or scriptural narrative. What have evolved from that early change in scientific philosophy are the currently accepted but unwritten rules of scientific study. From Michaels Ruse’s testimony at McLean v. Arkansas in 1982, these rules are:
1. It is guided by natural law
2. It has to be explanatory by reference to natural law
3. It is testable against the empirical world
4. Its conclusions are tentative, i.e. are not necessarily the final word
5. It is falsifiable.
Rules 1 and 2 refer to the methodological naturalism, MN, of the scientific method, essentially the search for explanations of nature which do not rely on supernatural forces as causes. The exclusion of the “God did it hypothesis” is a major point of contention for religious fundamentalists, making MN the target of considerable scorn as to the atheistic nature of science. As Jason demonstrates in his original post, as well as many others in the past, he is fond of affixing the label “atheist” to scientists, or “science minded atheists”, whoever they are (atheistic scientists, perhaps). It is true that a higher percentage of scientists admit to being atheists than does the general population, but it’s not 100%. In reality, about 40% of scientists consider themselves atheists or agnostics. That leaves 60% who are Jewish, Catholic, Protestant and Hindu. Exclusion of the God hypothesis from scientific discovery is not an exclusion of belief in God. It is merely an exclusion by scientists of supernatural explanations for describing the nature of the physical world because such explanations are untestable, the reason for rule #3. Supernatural beings by definition can arbitrarily violate the rules of physical reality and thus cannot be accepted as parameters in scientific study. Thus, it is not inconsistent for a scientist to have a belief in God and still exclude God as an explanation in his or her study of nature. The majority of the 60% are able to do that, including the likes of Ken Miller:
Click to access CT-higher-opinion.pdf
Others, however, cannot accommodate their religious beliefs with science, including those working at or for the Discovery Institute, Answers in Genesis and the Institute for Creation Research. Virtually all of the books and internet articles published by the authors working for these organizations start with the assumption that God did it and then try to build a case to satisfy that predetermined outcome. This is nothing more than an appeal to the authority of ancient scripture, essentially the science of 450 years ago, couched in the language of modern day science in order to make it appear to be legitimate science based knowledge.
There are a number of factors which speak to the unscientific nature of the published works of the Institute authors. One can find numerous articles by them, almost all on the internet, complaining that they can’t get an airing on the “scientific” merit of their work because the science community is biased against them and won’t publish their articles in the peer reviewed scientific literature. Like it or not, peer review is the current standard by which scientists present the results of their work for others to review and criticize. It is a highly effective, self-correcting mechanism for comparison and testing of competing hypotheses. The Institute authors cannot get their articles published in the peer reviewed scientific literature because their research does not meet the standards listed above for what constitutes valid science. They thus can only publish their work in books and on their personal and Institute websites, outside the peer review system. That is not scientific scholarship. My personal criteria for assessing the scholastic value of articles posted on the internet is to first assume the posted information is a lie, at least until I am able to verify the credentials of the author or the publisher. As examples, I place zero value on the writings of a young earth creationist computer science professor who writes on his personal university website that radioisotope dating is flawed, but I will entertain the musings of a philosophy professor who wishes to comment on the philosophy of the scientific method.
Michael Behe argued in his book Darwin’s Black Box that since the unwritten rules of the scientific method are unwritten then he should be allowed to change them and use the God hypothesis to justify his explanations of nature. The whole purpose of rule #3 is to ensure others can verify and thus validate the assumptions, hypotheses, results and conclusions of any scientific study. One can’t verify an untestable hypothesis (God did it), thus there are no peer reviewed science articles supporting IDC. It must have been embarrassing for Behe during his testimony at the Kitzmiller v. Dover trial in 2005 to be presented with a large stack of peer reviewed literature articles, published in the scientific literature before, during and after the preparation and publication of his book in 1996, on the evolutionary basis of the mechanisms of the immune response, something that Behe had argued in his book was so complex that only God could have conceived it.
This is a perfect example of the fallacy of Jason’s arguments “to follow the evidence” and his ludicrous assertion that it isn’t a violation of the God in the gaps argument to accept God did it as the best explanation of complex natural phenomena. Dr. Behe made that assumption but he didn’t follow the evidence. He either didn’t search the technical literature before or during the preparation of his book which would have turned up the molecular biology studies on the evolution of immune system chemistry, or worse yet, he knew about the research articles and decided to ignore them because they didn’t fit with his assumption that only God could have produced the intricate complexity of the immune response. This is the very reason why I have argued in the past that acceptance of the God hypothesis in scientific studies is an intellectual dead end. There is no follow up hypothesis, no next scientific study, when one adopts that approach. Every example Behe gives in his book now has a plausible science based explanation because some scientist, atheist or otherwise, did not accept his assertion that only God could do it and instead decided to ask the next question, to formulate the next hypothesis and then do the difficult work to define the actual MN based mechanisms of action.
Other issues with the books of the Institute authors include cherry picked data to support their arguments against evolution, ignorance of or deliberate neglect to mention countervailing data that refutes their suppositions and reliance on outdated information that had subsequently been shown to be based on inaccurate hypothetical models. Stephen Meyer’s Darwin’s Doubt is a good example of this anti-evolutionist genre. The deficiencies of Meyer’s scholarship have been thoroughly explained by Michael Buratovich:
http://reports.ncse.com/index.php/rncse/search/authors/view?firstName=Michael&middleName=&lastName=Buratovich&affiliation=Spring%20Arbor%20University&country=
Summarizing, a basic prerequisite for any scientific hypothesis to be accepted as valid requires that it address and explain all currently available data. In general, IDC books not only rely on the God hypothesis to justify their conclusions but also ignore data which do not fit their case, and the books expressing a mostly anti-evolution viewpoint don’t present any viable MN science based alternative explanations. They are just hollow diatribes by IDC authors against what they perceive to be the deficiencies of evolution, perceptions that are more often than not based on incorrect assumptions of the mechanisms of how evolution actually works. I am not going to get into a lengthy discourse on the perceived defects in Darwinian evolution that these authors claim to be legitimate points of contention, but I will, however, comment on a couple of special cases, Phillip Johnson’s books and Charles Thaxton’s editorial work.
Johnson was a lawyer by trade, as well as a born again fundamentalist Christian. As a lawyer, he viewed science as needing to justify its conclusions using the standard of the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth (his lawyer lens), or else it didn’t meet his criteria for validity. He never understood that scientific truth is never absolute; it’s always tentative and subject to change as new information becomes available (rule #4). As one reads his books, one can easily detect his bias for absolute truth and his frustration with the historical changing nature of the scientific understanding of evolution. As a fundamentalist Christian, Johnson viewed his life’s work through the lens of the New Testament and was fond of quoting John 1:1 as the core principle of his belief system. There is nothing wrong with that, except when it comes to interpreting scientific evidence and the resulting (tentative) conclusions of science, which again requires exclusion of the God hypothesis to be considered valid MN science. As an aside, John Lennox has a similar Biblical lens bias in his view of scientific evidence (BBC debate between Lennox and Dawkins on Dawkins book The God Delusion). More on that below.
As for Thaxton, I have zero respect for his work. It was Thaxton who served as the editor of the IDC textbook Of Pandas and People, the textbook of the Kitzmiller v. Dover trial. An earlier version of Pandas was the creationist textbook Biology and Origins, the type of textbook that had been ruled unconstitutional in the Edwards v. Aguillard Supreme Court decision of 1987. Thaxton supervised the editing of Biology and Origins, substituting the words “intelligent design” for “creation” and “designer” for “Creator”, leaving virtually the entirety of the remaining text unchanged, and then changed the title of the book to Of Pandas and People. This was nothing more than a blatant attempt to bypass the 1987 Supreme Court decisions in order to introduce creation science into the high school biology classroom as intelligent design. I consider that to be a case of deliberate fraud, which in my view, taints anything that Thaxton, as well as anything that the Discovery Institute, has to say about science. The political strategies of the Discovery Institute, to get done by legislation, with the cooperation of gullible politicians, what they cannot get done by doing valid MN science, are well documented:
https://ncse.com/creationism/general/wedge-document
https://ncse.com/creationism/analysis/wedge-at-work
A brief word on rule #5. Falsifibility is Karl Popper’s demarcation criteria for distinguishing science from pseudo-science. For a hypothesis to be representative of valid science, it must have the potential to be proven wrong by experimental or observational data. For the sake of our discussion here, the idea that God did it can never be proven wrong as there is no way to test it, so it cannot be considered a basis for scientific truth. Like most questions of philosophy, there is never universal agreement among philosophers and thus not all of them agree with this concept. Ruse has been criticized by some for bringing it up in the McLean trial. Nevertheless, it has its value for defining what is pseudo-science.
Edward Wilson argues in his book Consilience for a cooperative blending of the knowledge of science and the humanities, a sort of utopian ideal of knowledge sharing and growth which would benefit all parties. Stephen Gould suggested that the knowledge of the sciences and the humanities are non-overlapping magisteria, NOMA, inherently different fields of inquiry, one fact based and the other values based, and that each side should essentially mind their own business. He believed that science should stop trying to define what constitutes ethics and morality and stick with the study of the material world. Likewise, religious authors and commentators should quit trying to define the material world in terms of their interpretation of ancient texts and stick with what they know best, the ethical and moral training and guidance of society. I think Gould’s approach is the more practical of the two, but I’m not sure even that is enough to quell the rancor of religious fundamentalists for their perception of the atheism of MN science and all the ills they believe science has brought upon society.
In their book The Bible and the Believer, Jewish, Protestant and Catholic Bible critics Brettler, Enns and Harrington compare the traditions of their respective religions with regard to the importance of the Bible to their core belief systems. The strongest reliance on Bible based beliefs and the greatest tendency toward Bible literalism is most significant in the Protestant tradition and less so for Catholics and Jews. However, in his essay, Enns makes the case that in their narrow viewing lens of Bible literalism, Protestant fundamentalists risk marginalizing their potential contributions to society when ignoring and even denigrating scientific discoveries and the higher Bible criticism of Biblical scholars. They risk being ignored themselves, because of their restrictive belief systems, by an increasingly secular, science knowledgeable public. For instance, I tend to tune people out the moment they insist the planet is 6000 years old and I have little respect for those who spend millions of dollars to build ark tourist attractions in Kentucky which display cages of baby dinosaurs next to modern day animals. That said, I don’t think it matters much what I think. I’m not convinced the Bible literalists will pay much attention to me or to Enns.
The recent Pew study on the increase in atheism in the United States got a lot of press coverage:
http://www.pewforum.org/2015/11/03/u-s-public-becoming-less-religious/
Buried in that study, and hardly mentioned in the press, if at all, were data showing a countervailing increase in the membership of Protestant fundamentalist religions, the Bible literalist sects of the Christian faith. I suspect that all the pleas for consilience or NOMA will not make any difference. I was raised as a Lutheran, American synod, not Missouri. During catechism classes 50 years ago, Pastor Rinehart taught us a day-age version of Genesis. Had I been raised Missouri synod, I would have been taught that day meant a 24 hour day and that the Earth is 6000 years old, essentially what is still taught today by Missouri synod pastors. Ken Miller tells the story in one of his books (I forget which one and this may be a paraphrase of the described events) about a public debate he had with Duane Gish, the former VP of the Institute for Creation Research, in which he shredded Gish’s young earth creationist arguments. The two of them met by chance at breakfast the next morning in their hotel restaurant and after a brief discussion Miller asked Gish if he really believed the things he said during the debate. Gish’s responded that he had to, the implication being that to do otherwise would be an unacceptable assault on his belief system and his faith in the absolute inerrancy of the ancient Bible texts. Therein lays the source of the apparent animosity between science and fundamentalist religion. As long as religious fundamentalists fear the challenge to their belief systems by MN science and science feels threatened by the political activities of those who defer to the literal interpretation of ancient texts, the arguments will continue. However, I suspect they will likely shift to different targets.
Whether the Protestant fundamentalists know it or not, they have already lost the battle against the teaching of evolution. Evolution is at the core of every college biology program taught in nearly every major university on the planet, including the major faith based institutions (Notre Dame, Loyola, Baylor, Southern Methodist, etc., etc.). The recent contributions from the study of biology at the molecular level has made all subsequent lecture and laboratory courses beyond the first year college curriculum, as well as nearly every biology related research program, premised on an background understanding of DNA based evolutionary processes. Evolution is firmly entrenched in the college curriculum and isn’t going away because the Discovery Institute thinks it epitomizes the evil, atheistic influence of science on the moral decay of society. My guess is the argument will eventually shift to the holes in the scientific understanding of the origin of life, with continued invocation that only God can create life and human consciousness. In the coming decades, when science begins to fill in some of those knowledge gaps, the Bible fundamentalists will likely fall back further still to the origin of matter, the Leibniz contingency argument about the origin of the universe. At the moment, attempts by science to explain where the universe came from amounts to the development of competing, complicated mathematical models of the Big Bang and the Big Bounce. Most people have a hard enough time understanding mathematics in 3 dimensions. When the theoretical physicists add 4, 5 or more dimensions to equations that only they can understand, most everyone else will find it easy to reject that as nonsense and return to Leibniz’ God did it explanation.
Which brings us back to Gould’s NOMA, and the question of whether or not everyone can mind our own business. I’m not optimistic that will occur in the years that remain of my lifetime.
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August 5, 2016 at 7:34 am
Test
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August 5, 2016 at 11:34 am
Test 2 U 2…………
What’s on my mind today?
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August 5, 2016 at 11:35 am
Science meets scripture? What does it mean?
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August 5, 2016 at 1:17 pm
BM:
“………..Gould suggested that the knowledge of the sciences and the humanities are non-overlapping magisteria, NOMA, inherently different fields of inquiry, one fact based and the other values based, and that each side should essentially mind their own business. He believed that science should stop trying to define what constitutes ethics and morality and stick with the study of the material world. Likewise, religious authors and commentators should quit trying to define the material world in terms of their interpretation of ancient texts and stick with what they know best, the ethical and moral training and guidance of society…………”
” I’m not optimistic that will occur in the years that remain of my lifetime.”
I think your statement speaks more to the pessimistic mindset about the “years that remain of my lifetime”, for immortality with vitality than simply pessimism of NOMA.
After all, Immortality is the dream of every man, woman and child and quite possibly that was the spark that began religious thought processes in the first place, before thoughts went out to the Gods in the heavens…especially now with medical advancement, stem cell research, even the New Heaven and the New Earth from Revelation touches on the last thing to be abolished…death itself……New organs grown from personal stem cells, non invasive surgery for artery widening and stent support,
(a friend with a life threatening artery blockage was transported to a higher tech hospital where he immediately underwent angioplasty {artery widening and stent insert} and released within a few hours later in a wheel chair because his leg had swollen so much from the medical condition)
and the recently growing use of nano technology for medical intervention directly targeting parasitic cells.
Take Jimmy Carter for example. last August, Carter had revealed that he had melanoma that had metastasized to his liver and brain and then cured an immunotherapy drug called Keytruda to stimulate his body’s own immune system to fight the cancer.
A more complete similar story of this seemingly miracle-(science) therapy involves a UK man with only months to live:
A pioneering new drug appears to have cured a British man with advanced skin cancer who had been given months to live.
Doctors cannot be certain it was the treatment that helped 64-year-old Warwick Steele, but know of no other explanation.
Results from an early-stage trial of the drug indicate that it may offer a potential “paradigm shift” in cancer therapy, according to Steele’s consultant.
The drug, pembrolizumab, is the latest in a new generation of treatments that prevent cancers shielding themselves from the immune system. It was tested on melanoma – the most dangerous form of skin cancer – because the prospects for patients with advanced forms of the disease are so bleak.
Just under 70% of the 411 patients taking part in the trial were still alive one year after starting the treatment. The result is considered remarkable because all had highly advanced melanoma and a very poor prognosis. One-year survival rates for untreated patients diagnosed with advanced, stage-four melanoma are just 10% for men and 35% for women.
Steele, a television engineer from Ruislip, west London, was treated for six months with pembrolizumab, which is injected into the bloodstream.
Doctors were astonished when after just three months his tumours had almost disappeared. Since then, they have shown no sign of returning – and in fact have shrunk even further.
His consultant, Dr David Chao, from the Royal Free Hampstead NHS trust in London, said: “We cannot say for certain that he has been cured, but he is doing very well. He was aware that without an effective treatment his survival prospects were not good – maybe months.
“Pembrolizumab looks like it has potential to be a paradigm shift for cancer therapy and is firmly helping to establish immunotherapy as one of the most exciting and promising treatments in recent years.
“This is one of several new drugs of this type being produced. What these early trials are showing is that they are fulfilling their promise ridiculously fast.
“Some of these results are really astonishing, almost jaw-dropping. And these drugs may be applicable to many different cancer types, including ones that are hard to treat, such as lung cancer.
“Cancers adapt to treatments, and when they come back they are harder to treat. Can we dream about actually curing some of our patients with very advanced cancer? Once we get the immune system attacking the cancer, can it act independently to keep the cancer under control? We don’t have all the answers yet, but that’s what we are looking at.”
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Pembrolizumab is a synthetic antibody that blocks a biological pathway called programmed cell death 1 (PD-1), which cancers activate to suppress the immune system.
In healthy individuals, PD-1 is part of the process that applies a “brake” to the immune system and prevents it running out of control. Without the brake, there is a risk of a harmful inflammatory reaction – a potential serious side-effect of the new drugs.
Pembrolizumab was generally “well tolerated” by the trial patients, according to Chao, but he said responses varied widely between individuals. The results were presented at the annual meeting of the American Society of Clinical Oncology in Chicago.
Clinicians do not yet know the true extent of how pembrolizumab might affect survival. After 18 months, 62% of patients were still alive and undergoing treatment. Around 80% of patients responded to the drug – an unusually high proportion.t
A total of 72% experienced tumour shrinkage, including 39% whose tumours were more than halved in size, according to one kind of assessment. Additional data showed that the drug also reduced the size of advanced non-small cell lung cancers by up to 47%.
Pembrolizumab’s manufacturer, the pharmaceutical company Merck Sharp & Dohme, is expected to apply for a European licence to market it within months.
Each year, around 13,300 people in the UK are diagnosed with melanoma – more than a third of them aged under 55.
Gillian Nuttall, founder of the charity Melanoma UK, said: “Advanced melanoma is a terrible disease with a poor prognosis. The pembrolizumab results are really exciting and could represent a turning point for patients affected by advanced melanoma, giving them a greater chance of survival.”
And then there are developing other possibilities with quantum mechanics here:
http://www.fastcoexist.com/3016530/4-ways-that-quantum-technology-could-transform-health-care
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August 5, 2016 at 9:01 pm
Bob,
I think you should take your blinders off. As I told you previously I’m not a scientists and I don’t pretend otherwise. I’ll also tell you now that you engage in the typical misrepresentation that you decry. You’ve stated falsely that I present a one-sided young earth creationist case on origins. The articles in posts #s 75 & 77 do not come from YEC. Stephen Meyer isn’t a YEC. In fact he speaks highly of Darwin and Darwinism. He believes the earth to be billions of years old. But he does recognize that Darwinism has its faults. You’re no critic either. Didn’t you tell me you’ve never authored a peer reviewed scientific paper [post # 74.]? Maybe no one should take you seriously. You can’t even pass your own litmus test regardless of how many “scientific” books you read and patents attached to your name. Smells quite hypocritical from downwind. How about this scientist:
Dr. Henry Schaefer is the Director of the Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry, University of Georgia; and Graham Perdue Professor of Chemistry. He holds the Ph.D. in Chemical Physics, from Stanford University. Dr. Schaefer is the Editor-in-Chief of Molecular Physics and President of the World Association of Theoretically Oriented Chemists, and has authored more than 975 scientific publications and is a five-time nominee for the Nobel Prize.
He seems to pass your litmus test. But he sees the relationship between science and religion differently than you do. If you can set your bias aside you might check out his comments in the video found in post # 101.
Hugh Ross [post # 18.] isn’t a YEC. He also believes the earth to be billions of years old and he has his reasons.
It seems you missed this. I posted it specifically to you on another one of Jason’s blogs:
https://prelectur.stanford.edu/lecturers/gould/
look at it and read it too; you might learn something.
I’m not interested in your labels and character analysis of other scientists, as I say you’re no critic nor lawyer (as far as you let on) or even by your own admission no historian either. What I would be interested in is this: as a scientist (of what sort you have yet to reveal despite being asked specifically by me [re: post # 75]) how do you reconcile the informatics conflict inherent to DNA, i.e., The First Law of Informatics: information cannot emerge spontaneously. It must be encoded by a programmer. So what or who embedded the information found in DNA?
You can also try answering the question posed by David Berlinski, how do you go from a cow to a whale by way of Darwinism?
That would interest me. You can spare me the commentary on your perceived prejudices religious or otherwise.
I see merit on both sides of the argument; distinctly opposite to your mischaracterizations in your opening paragraph in post # 110. You do have one thing correct though: “it is entirely possible to have a belief in God and still incorporate legitimate science based explanations of nature into one’s worldview.”
Case in point:
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/the-cells-design/like-a-fish-out-of-water–why-im-skeptical-of-the-evolutionary-paradigm
– Frank
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August 6, 2016 at 9:41 am
A reading list for the devout atheist:
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August 6, 2016 at 10:28 am
Frank:
You go from a whale to a cow not from a cow to a whale…you are backward; everything came out of the sea. Like a tadpole becomes a frog, like a caterpillar becomes a butterfly, like a seal became a dog these are Life Forces that we do not know the answers to yet, we only see the representations and we describe them, we catalogue and give names to everything much like Adam, (mankind metaphorically) named all the animals.
You might want to consider evolution in progress:
Most commonly, walking fish are amphibious fish. Able to spend longer times out of water, these fish may use a number of means of locomotion, including springing, snake-like lateral undulation, and tripod-like walking. The mudskippers are probably the best land-adapted of contemporary fish and are able to spend days moving about out of water and can even climb mangroves, although to only modest heights. The climbing gourami is often specifically referred to as a “walking fish”, although it does not actually “walk”, but rather moves in a jerky way by supporting itself on the extended edges of its gill plates and pushing itself by its fins and tail. Some reports indicate that it can also climb trees.
In modern fish, the “walking” ability differs from that of tetrapods (four-limbed animals). The theory of evolution suggests that life originated in the oceans and later moved onto land, and paleontologists have long been looking for a missing evolutionary link between ocean-living and land-living animals. In 2006, a fossil Tiktaalik roseae was found which has many features of wrist, elbow, and neck that are akin to those of tetrapods. It belongs to a group of lobe-finned fish called Rhipidistia, which according to some theories, were the ancestors of all tetrapods.
The walking fish are genetically adapting to land and each generation is a little better adapted than the previous, part of the Life Forces interaction with environment as the roots of plants and tress travel underground searching out nutrients and water overcoming obstacles like asphalt and rocks but steers itself accordingly…does the sap in trees have consciousness to programme the roots or could the chlorophyl be the energy communicator. But it replicates itself in the form of a seed with the imbedded message: “this is how we do it”. some people believe it has something to do with quantum physics at the micro level.
Quantum technology is a complex area, but one analogy that has been used to explain the concept of quantum computing is that it is like being able to read all of the books in a library at the same time, whereas conventional computing is like having to read them one after another.
Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2016-08-record-breaking-logic-gate-important-milestone.html#jCp
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August 6, 2016 at 12:49 pm
ltg,
Go back to David Berlinski’s interview found in post # 65. At about 11:00 minutes into the video you’ll see a section entitled “You can lead a cow to water…” in which he discusses the complexity and vast number (~ 50,000 where he stopped counting) of morphological changes necessary for a cow to transform into a whale. And most definitely don’t take the section out of context. I urge you view Berlinski’s entire interview.
– Frank
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August 7, 2016 at 3:42 pm
“For myself, faith begins with the realization that a supreme intelligence brought the universe into being and created man. It is not difficult for me to have this faith, for it is incontrovertible that where there is a plan there is intelligence–an orderly, unfolding universe testifies to the truth of the most majestic statement ever uttered–‘In the beginning God.'” – Arthur Holly Compton was an American physicist who won the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1927 for his discovery of the Compton effect, which demonstrated the particle nature of electromagnetic radiation.
http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/837
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August 7, 2016 at 4:43 pm
Continuing post # 18.
From post # 1.: THE problem I see with Theism is not the “God of the gaps” fallacy. The problem is that theists cannot explain God outside the realm of the supernatural.
In response to the aforementioned statement consider the following:
http://www.reasons.org/articles/new-astronomical-proofs-for-the-existence-of-god
&
http://www.reasons.org/articles/quantum-mechanics-a-modern-goliath
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August 7, 2016 at 5:05 pm
DEFINITIONS:
Go-Deep Philosopher.
When we talk about the eternal we actually have two definitions of the eternal. but generally only talk about one as being eternal. Are they not both Eternal?
They are:
The God Theory…………and………… The No God Theory.
The God Theory is “Forever”…for an endless time : for all time : FOR ETERNITY.
The No God Theory is “Never”……at no time in the past or future; on no occasion; not ever, FOR ETERNITY.
Are there two Eternals then? Are they both right, wrong, or a mix of right and wrong?
However in physics, such as magnetism it is obvious that they both have their expressions as Positive and Negative so they both, in fact, have existence. Therefore does the NO God Theory have existence? Does the Never have existence, does Nothing have existence; does No Thing exist?
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August 7, 2016 at 5:41 pm
Here is the problem with Theists: they take the exact literal text and except it without question as being supernatural instead of looking for normal meaning to explain the context of the text…….
“After His resurrection Jesus could pass through walls in His physical body, an evidence of His extradimensionality. (Luke 24:36-43; John 20:26-28)
Luke 24:36-43…..
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
INSTEAD OF:
And as they thus spake, Jesus entered the room, walked into where the group was assembled, stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
John 20:26-28…..
then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
INSTEAD OF:
then came Jesus, the doors being shut, opened the doors, walked among the group and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
OR:
then came Jesus, the doors being shut, walked into the room from the secret passage way in the back room, walked over to the group and standing in the midst of them said, Peace be unto you.
When theists are not smart enough to read literal text without normal-minded common sense context, they expose themselves as paranormal weirdos trying to explain something that actually happened by any common sense human reasoning with intelligence. Thereby constantly make themselves look insane, obtuse, unreliable, and a bunch of crazy bible thumping nitwits and dimwits without any credibility because they do not have the normal capacity to discern like normal-humans and draw unto themselves all the ridicule and mockery, derision, laughter, scorn, scoffing and contempt they deserve for their stupidity.
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August 7, 2016 at 8:27 pm
Published on Dec 15, 2014
In this lecture presented at the University of California, Santa Barbara, Dr. Walter L. Bradley discusses three sources for the evidence for design: (1) the simple mathematical form that nature takes; (2) the coincidence that the universal constants are exactly what they need to be to support life of any type on this planet; and (3) the coincidence that the initial conditions in many different situations are also critical and happen to have been exactly what they needed to be for the universe and life to come into being.
One of the remarkable discoveries of the past 30 years has been the recognition that small changes in any of the universal constants produce surprisingly dramatic changes in the universe, rendering it unsuitable for life, not just as we know it, but for life of any conceivable type. In excess of 100 examples have been documented in the technical literature and summarized in such books as Universes and Rare Earth.
One of the many examples Bradley discusses is the strong force that binds together the nucleus of atoms. If it were just five percent weaker, only hydrogen would be stable and we would have a universe with a periodic chart of one element, which is a universe incapable of providing the necessary molecular complexity to provide minimal life functions of processing energy, storing information, and replicating. On the other hand, if the strong force were just two percent stronger, very massive nuclei would form, which are unsuitable for the chemistry of living systems. Furthermore, there would be no stable hydrogen, no long-lived stars, and no hydrogen containing compounds.
Bradley also cites the conclusion of many prominent scientists such as University of Virginia astronomers R.T. Rood and J.S. Trefil. Rood and Trefil conclude their book Are We Alone? by estimating the probability of life existing anywhere in the universe to be one in a billion, and thus conclude the existence of life on planet earth, far from being inevitable, is the result of a remarkable set of coincidences.
“If I were a religious man,” Trefil wrote in the concluding chapter, “I would say that everything we have learned about life in the past twenty years shows that we are unique, and therefore, special in God’s sight.” Instead he concludes that life on planet earth is a remarkable accident, unlikely to have been replicated anywhere else in the universe, which his book powerfully argues.
The video ends with a Q&A session as Dr. Bradley engages the university students on many scientific and theological issues raised by the lecture presentation.
Dr. Walter L. Bradley Walter Bradley received his Ph.D. in materials science from the University of Texas at Austin. After eight years at the Colorado School of Mines, he came to Texas A&M University in 1976 where he is served as professor and Senior TEES Research Fellow in the department of mechanical engineering. He has received two teaching awards, one national and five local research awards, and from 1989-1993 served as the head of the department. He has received over $4,000,000 in research grants and contracts resulting in the publication of 100+ technical articles. He has been honored for his technical contributions by being elected a Fellow of the American Society for Materials and a Fellow of the American Scientific Affiliation. In 1984 he coauthored a seminal work on the chemical basis of life entitled The Mysteries of Life’s Origins: Reassessing Current Theories with Charles Thaxton and Roger Olsen. Dr. Bradley lectures on college campuses across the country on design and origins through his affiliation with Discovery Institute and Christian Leadership Ministries.
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August 9, 2016 at 5:04 am
What? That can’t be right. Can anyone be so completely ignorant of the technical literature on whale evolution? Oh, yeah, right, I guess so – David Berlinski, yet another scientific literature challenged senior fellow of the Discovery Institute. Berlinski got one thing right, and only one thing, whales are indeed mammals (as are porpoises and dolphins). The rest of his talk is “udder” nonsense. His whole argument is a spoiled leftover from the nonsensical half-cow, half-whale cartoon slide that Duane Gish used to show in his presentations on the supposed deficiencies of the fossil record. Whales are related to hippos, not cows, something science has known for nearly 20 years and their evolution is based on several transitional fossils, some of which have been known for over 100 years:
Click to access 9881471.pdf
https://ncse.com/creationism/analysis/whale-evolution
https://ncse.com/library-resource/tale-whale
So, what we have here is yet another example of a “scientist” at the Discovery Institute who is incapable of doing a basic search of the peer reviewed scientific literature, a skill every other scientist on the planet learns to do as part of the undergraduate research studies during their senior year in college. Repeatedly having to refute such incompetent scholarship is getting a bit tedious. I think I’ll take a break and read a book, maybe something on the difficulties Protestant Bible literalists have in adapting their beliefs to basic scientific knowledge.
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August 9, 2016 at 8:04 am
From the evolutionist point of view:
Published on Mar 12, 2015
Brian J. Enquist, Professor, Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
Life on Earth is amazing and multifaceted. Ultimately all of life has descended from one common ancestor and has been guided by evolution by natural selection. On the one hand, the evolution of modern-day diversity and ecosystems may have been contingent on the initial chemical building blocks of life and the historical events that have characterized our planet over geologic time. On the other hand, there are numerous aspects of life pointing to regular and deterministic processes that shape the complexity and diversity of life. This talk will touch on those examples where the laws of chemistry and physics, in addition to evolutionary rules, have resulted in general properties of life. These properties ultimately determine how long we live, the diversity of life, the function and regulation of ecosystems and the biosphere, and how life will respond to climate change.
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August 9, 2016 at 9:36 am
BM:
I like the description for the evolutionary transition of the ancient Dinosaur to the modern Creatosaurus……..
As we know the dinosaurs of course died out eventually, although one dinosaur is still with us unfortunately. And that is religion’s very own, Creatosaurus Ignoramus Rex.(CIR – derivation: “catholico ideologia romano”)
A small brain creature with a hard outer shell, impervious to reason, feeds exclusively on scripture and its copious droppings have not only been used to build creation museums but can serve as a useful metaphor for everything in them. It has a head full of scripture; that is, a head full of ideas that have stopped growing; that’d be a head full of dead ideas from the language of dead, Latin.
EPILOGUE:
They have no right, oh they think they do, but they have no right to have those ideas respected or taken seriously. They’re simply not entitled to it and they’ve certainly got no business using them to tell other people how they should live their lives because they don’t know anything.
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August 9, 2016 at 6:51 pm
Continuing post # 125.
Professor Enquist references Darwin’s Algorithm during his presentation. A key driver of natural selection is random mutation. How frequently and how predictably does random mutation produce beneficial results?
Beneficial Mutation – Selection Balance and the Effect of Linkage on Positive Selection
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1931526/
From the Abstract:
THE vast majority of mutations are neutral or deleterious. Extensive study of such mutations has explained the genetic diversity in many populations and has been useful for inferring population parameters and histories from data. Yet beneficial mutations, despite their rarity, are what cause long-term adaptation and can also dramatically alter the genetic diversity at linked sites. Unfortunately, our understanding of their dynamics remains poor by comparison.
Professor Enquist also refers to Morowitz’s hypothesis, “the energy that flows through a system acts to organize that system,”…
I’d ask, how does that hypothesis reconcile with the following?:
“We have repeatedly emphasized the fundamental problems posed for the biologist by the fact of life’s complex organization. We have seen that organization requires work for its maintenance and that the universal quest for food is in part to provide the energy needed for this work. But the simple expenditure of energy is not sufficient to develop and maintain order. A bull in a china shop performs work, but he neither creates nor maintains organization. The work needed is particular work; it must follow specifications; it requires information on how to proceed.”
(Simpson, George Gaylord & Beck, William S. [Harvard University)
That is the underlying critical question requiring resolution. How is fundamental information accounted for?
The prevalence of fractals in morphology evince consistency of successful design and as Professor Enquist states cost-efficiency for optimal performance in operation.
http://www.medicographia.com/2013/01/fractals-and-their-contribution-to-biology-and-medicine/
It’s a notable congruence that we find constants (# of Heartbeats constant across species, Energy of Life is constant across scale, Universal Scaling Function [re: metabolism & growth], trophic systems etc.) in the biological sciences as well as the physical sciences. As Professor Enquist points out we have much to learn from these characteristics which exhibit the order of the biosphere.
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August 9, 2016 at 8:48 pm
Bob,
After reading your last post I returned to Berlinski’s interview in post # 65. Why are you attacking the man? Whales ARE related to cows. The very article you cite says so: “The support values for relevant branches of the tree in
figure 1 are given in table 1. The artiodactyl-cetacean
clade (branch a, figure 1) received substantial support in
the QP-ML and NJ analyses of both the aa and nt data
sets, while the MP support for the same relationship was
lower. The pig was basal in this clade, while the pecorans,
cow and sheep, were identified as the sister group of the
hippopotamid-cetacean clade (branch b, figure 1). The
support for this relationship (branch c, figure 1) was
strong in all analyses and data sets.” “Molecular analyses of cetaceans have suggested an
approximately contemporary diversification among the
five extant cetacean lineages (Arnason & Gullberg 1996).
In conjunction with the cetacean palaeontological record
(Fordyce & Barnes 1994), this diversification has been
dated to 32-34 million years before present (Ma BP;
Arnason & Gullberg 1996). Extrapolation from this data
set has suggested that cetaceans and ruminants, as represented
by the cow, last had a common ancestor 60 Ma BP.”
Click to access 9881471.pdf
The problem here is this: his point went right over your head. Berlinski’s contention rests on this: If its (the whale’s) origin was land based originally then we have some crude way of assessing, QUANTITATIVELY, the scope of the project of transformation. He illustrates using a cow. He came to the conclusion after stopping his count at 50,000 that a vast array of complex morphological changes must occur to make the transition from land to sea. Do you have conclusive proof that the whale originated on land? What’s your quantitative estimate of the scope of the project? Explain how the resulting constraints are met. Do you have enough faith to believe it happened that way? Berlinski’s thinking in the light of Da Vinci’s spirit; i.e., “NO HUMAN INVESTIGATION CAN BE CALLED TRUE SCIENCE WITHOUT PASSING THROUGH MATHEMATICAL TESTS.” You’re not thinking at all. You’re merely reacting to your own personal bias. You holler and condemn arbitrarily. Meanwhile, you can’t even get your basic facts straight. How can you attack anyone with such venom? Isn’t there esprit de corps amongst scientists? Don’t you have civil mechanisms to resolve disputes? All I see from you is vicious back-biting and belligerent accusations. Perhaps you should have taken more time to “get the stupid out.” Maybe you should consider a name change too. Try Judas.
– Frank
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August 10, 2016 at 2:10 am
Frank, and you didn’t read the links I provided. Ambulocetus, a precursor of whales and hippos, is not land based.
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August 10, 2016 at 8:25 am
DARK ENERGY and GRAVITY WITHSTAND TESTS
by Dr. Hugh Ross
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/todays-new-reason-to-believe/dark-energy-and-gravity-withstand-tests
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August 11, 2016 at 8:23 am
WERE HUMANS SPECIALLY CREATED, or DID THEY EVOLVE FROM A HOMINID?
by Dr. Hugh Ross
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/todays-new-reason-to-believe/were-humans-specially-created-or-did-they-evolve-from-a-hominid
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August 11, 2016 at 2:17 pm
ADAM & EVE: A PRIMORDIAL PAIR or a POPULATION?
by Dr. Fazale Rana
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/the-cells-design/adam-and-eve-a-primordial-pair-or-a-population
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August 11, 2016 at 3:35 pm
SCIENCE NEWS FLASH: ARE HUMANS STILL EVOLVING?
by Dr. Fazale Rana
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/the-cells-design/science-news-flash–are-humans-still-evolving
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August 11, 2016 at 3:43 pm
Are roots still searching for nutrients and water? So likewise do humans root out and eventually adapt to the superior edibles and thus evolve to become what they eat.
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August 11, 2016 at 3:46 pm
Continuing post # 20.:
NOBEL-WINNING DNA RESEARCH CHALLENGES EVOLUTIONARY THEORY
May 30, 2016
http://www.reasons.org/articles/nobel-winning-dna-research-challenges-evolutionary-theory
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August 11, 2016 at 7:05 pm
IF WE ALLOW SCIENCE TO CORRECT THE BIBLE, DOESN’T THAT MAKE SCIENCE GOD?
by Dr. Hugh Ross
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/todays-new-reason-to-believe/if-we-allow-science-to-correct-the-bible–doesnt-that-make-science-god
From the above article:
In my opinion, the best guidelines for constructively integrating science and the Bible was codified by the International Council on Biblical Inerrancy (ICBI) in their Chicago Statement on Biblical Hermeneutics. Their affirmations and denials relevant to science-faith integration (articles 19–22) are as follows:
We affirm that any preunderstandings which the interpreter brings to Scripture should be in harmony with scriptural teaching and subject to correction by it.
We deny that Scripture should be required to fit alien preunderstandings, inconsistent with itself; such as naturalism, evolutionism, scientism, secular humanism, and relativism.
We affirm that since God is the author of all truth, all truths, biblical and extrabiblical, are consistent and cohere, and that the Bible speaks truth when it touches on matters pertaining to nature, history, or anything else. We further affirm that in some cases extrabiblical data have value for clarifying what Scripture teaches, and for prompting correction of faulty interpretations.
We deny that extrabiblical views ever disprove the teaching of Scripture or hold priority over it.
We affirm the harmony of special with general revelation and therefore of biblical teaching with the facts of nature.
We deny that any genuine scientific facts are inconsistent with the true meaning of any passage of Scripture.
We affirm that Genesis 1–11 is factual, as is the rest of the book.
We deny that the teachings of Genesis 1–11 are mythical and that scientific hypotheses about earth history or the origin of humanity may be invoked to overthrow what Scripture teaches about creation.
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August 11, 2016 at 8:10 pm
FAILURES TO PHILOSOPHIZE
by Dr. Anjeanette “AJ” Roberts
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/theorems-and-theology/failures-to-philosophize
From the above article:
A Solid Christian Theology Facilitates Scientific Inquiry
Research at a very foundational level must be done by asking questions such as: What is real? How much certainty do I need to claim something is true? Are my or others’ scientific theories biased or hindered by considering only the physical and chemical aspects of reality? These questions are all relevant to science research and all are philosophical questions.
When science gets trapped in a particular dogma it may take a long time to break free. Examples are theories of an earth-centered universe and spontaneous generation of living beings from nonliving materials. When the dogma is inextricably linked to a particular philosophical commitment, freeing science requires a paradigm shift. As you can see, a failure to think deeply about how philosophical commitments can hinder scientific inquiry is not good for science, or anyone for that matter….
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August 11, 2016 at 9:07 pm
WHAT WE ACTUALLY KNOW ABOUT POTENTIALLY HABITABLE PLANETS
by Dr. Jeff Zweerink
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/impact-events/what-we-actually-know-about-potentially-habitable-planets
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August 14, 2016 at 7:30 pm
Uploaded on Jan 22, 2010
This is not day = ERA theory
Today, we look at time going backward. We see 15 billion years. Looking forward from when the universe is very small – billions of times smaller – the Torah says six days. In truth, they both may be correct. What’s exciting about the last few years in cosmology is we now have quantified the data to know the relationship of the “view of time” from the beginning, relative to the “view of time” today. It’s not science fiction any longer. Any one of a dozen physics text books all bring the same number. The general relationship between time near the beginning and time today is a million million. That’s a 1 with 12 zeros after it. So when a view from the beginning looking forward says “I’m sending you a pulse every second,” would we see it every second? No. We’d see it every million million seconds. Because that’s the stretching effect of the expansion of the universe.
The Torah doesn’t say every second, does it? It says Six Days. How would we see those six days? If the Torah says we’re sending information for six days, would we receive that information as six days? No. We would receive that information as six million million days. Because the Torah’s perspective is from the beginning looking forward. Six million million days is a very interesting number. What would that be in years? Divide by 365 and it comes out to be 16 billion years. Essentially the estimate of the age of the universe. Not a bad guess for 3000 years ago.
The way these two figures match up is extraordinary. I’m not speaking as a theologian; I’m making a scientific claim. I didn’t pull these numbers out of hat. That’s why I led up to the explanation very slowly, so you can follow it step-by-step. Now we can go one step further. Let’s look at the development of time, day-by-day, based on the expansion factor. Every time the universe doubles, the perception of time is cut in half. Now when the universe was small, it was doubling very rapidly. But as the universe gets bigger, the doubling time gets exponentially longer. This rate of expansion is quoted in “The Principles of Physical Cosmology,” a textbook that is used literally around the world.
(In case you want to know, this exponential rate of expansion has a specific number averaged at 10 to the 12th power. That is in fact the temperature of quark confinement, when matter freezes out of the energy: 10.9 times 10 to the 12th power Kelvin degrees divided by (or the ratio to) the temperature of the universe today, 2.73 degrees. That’s the initial ratio which changes exponentially as the universe expands.)
The calculations come out to be as follows: * The first of the Biblical days lasted 24 hours, viewed from the “beginning of time perspective.” But the duration from our perspective was 8 billion years. * The second day, from the Bible’s perspective lasted 24 hours. From our perspective it lasted half of the previous day, 4 billion years. * The third day also lasted half of the previous day, 2 billion years. * The fourth day – one billion years. * The fifth day – one-half billion years. * The sixth day – one-quarter billion years.
When you add up the Six Days, you get the age of the universe at 15 and 3/4 billion years. The same as modern cosmology. Is it by chance?
But there’s more. The Bible goes out on a limb and tells you what happened on each of those days. Now you can take cosmology, paleontology, archaeology, and look at the history of the world, and see whether or not they match up day-by-day. And I’ll give you a hint. They match up close enough to send chills up your spine.
Originally posted by Knowwheretorun1984
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August 15, 2016 at 11:24 am
Continuing post # 18.:
Published on Jun 29, 2016
This talk was given at Chapman University on April 18, 2016. The event was hosted by Factbridge, sponsored by Fellowship of Christian Athletes, InterVarsity, Young Life and Cru and financially supported by Christian Business Men’s Connection of Orange, CA. See http://factbridge.org/
The evidence keeps mounting. I found Dr. Ross’ observations regarding the Law of Entropy of particular interest.
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August 15, 2016 at 11:29 am
ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT ILLUMINATES MORE PROBLEMS FOR CHEMICAL EVOLUTION
by Dr. Fazale Rana
http://www.reasons.org/articles/ultraviolet-light-illuminates-more-problems-for-chemical-evolution
From the above article:
Origin-of-life researchers have miscalculated the importance of UV radiation for evolutionary models, according to recent work by researchers from the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA). The CfA scientists modeled the Sun’s UV radiation on early Earth and concluded that UV light might not have been an effective energy source to power prebiotic chemical reactions.
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August 15, 2016 at 11:49 am
BIOTIC BORDERS: CELL MEMBRANES UNDER SCRUTINY
by Dr. Fazale Rana
http://www.reasons.org/articles/biotic-borders-cell-membranes-under-scrutiny
From the above article:
Borders are important. These boundaries not only affect economics, they also define and characterize cities, counties, states, and nations. Similar to the way borders demarcate states, cell membranes define life’s boundaries. The cell’s membrane separates its contents—its structures and their chemical processes—from the exterior environment. The chemistry inside the cell constitutes life; outside the cell the same chemical processes are abiotic (without life).
* * * * *
Trees
BY JOYCE KILMER
I think that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.
A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the earth’s sweet flowing breast;
A tree that looks at God all day,
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;
A tree that may in Summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;
Upon whose bosom snow has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.
Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.
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August 15, 2016 at 5:13 pm
150 YEARS LATER, FOSSILS STILL DON’T HELP DARWIN
by Brian Thomas, M.S.
http://www.icr.org/article/4546/274
From the above article:
Charles Darwin raised a lack of transitional fossils as a possible objection to his own theory: “Why, if species have descended from other species by fine gradations, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms?” Later in this chapter of his landmark book, he expressed hope that future discoveries would be made of transitional forms, or of creatures that showed some transitional structure—perhaps a half-scale/half-feather.
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August 15, 2016 at 5:38 pm
WHY DOES SCIENCE LEAVE GOD OUT?
(Methodological Naturalism)
Published on Apr 10, 2014
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August 15, 2016 at 5:45 pm
CREATING LIFE IN THE LAB
What does it take to synthesize life?
Published on Apr 10, 2014
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August 16, 2016 at 5:51 am
The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. (Genesis 1:2)
And in the fourth watch of the night He came to them, walking on the sea. When the disciples saw Him walking on the sea, they were terrified, and said, “It is a ghost!” And they cried out from fear. But immediately Jesus spoke to them, saying, “Take courage, it is I; do not be afraid.” (Matthew 14:25-27)
Published on Jan 3, 2016
Glenkirk Church (Sep 20, 2015) – Lecture by astronomer and physicist Hugh Ross. This video is part of the Supernatural playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
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August 16, 2016 at 10:10 am
FA:
If it wasn’t for nonsense you would have no sense at all!
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August 16, 2016 at 11:13 am
Published on Jan 24, 2014
In this event, held at the University of California, Santa Barbara, Hugh Ross and Fuz Rana present an overview of their model and predictions and two UCSB professors, Dr. Harry Nelson and Dr. Kevin Plaxco, present their responses. The four presentations are followed by about 45 minutes of lively discussion between the audience and the panel of four speakers. The topics covered include arguments and evidences from mathematics, physics, astronomy, chemistry, biology and anthropology. More: http://www.arn.org/arnproducts/php/video_show_item.php?id=76
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August 16, 2016 at 11:19 am
HONING IN ON DARK ENERGY DESIGN
by Dr. Hugh Ross
http://www.reasons.org/articles/honing-in-on-dark-energy-design
From the above article:
Astronomers can use distance measurements to nearby Type Ia supernovae to infer distances to much more distant ones. Armed with both distance and redshift measurements of hundreds of Type Ia supernovae astronomers can gain a precise determination of the expansion history of the universe and reveal the clearest picture of the quantity and nature of dark energy.
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August 16, 2016 at 11:45 am
UNIVERSE CANNOT BE CREATED BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE MAGIC?
by Dr. Hugh Ross
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/todays-new-reason-to-believe/universe-cannot-be-created-because-that-would-be-magic
From the above article:
The space-time theorems a decade ago were generalized to apply to all possible inflationary hot big bang models that conceivably could support some kind of physical life. As Alexander Vilenkin, one of the authors of the most powerful of the space-time theorems, wrote,
“With the proof now in place, cosmologists can no longer hide behind the possibility of a past-eternal universe. There is no escape: they have to face the problem of a cosmic beginning.”
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August 16, 2016 at 12:38 pm
ACCELERATING RESEARCH INTO DARK ENERGY
Date:
July 7, 2016
Source:
University College London
Summary:
A quick method for making accurate, virtual universes to help understand the effects of dark matter and dark energy has been developed by scientists. Making up 95 percent of our universe, these substances have profound effects on the birth and lives of galaxies and stars and yet almost nothing is known about their physical nature.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/07/160707083111.htm
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August 16, 2016 at 1:28 pm
Cosmic Speed Measurement Suggests Dark Energy Mystery
A new measurement of how fast space is expanding disagrees with estimates based on the early universe, potentially pointing toward a break from the standard model of physics
By Clara Moskowitz on April 11, 2016
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cosmic-speed-measurement-suggests-dark-energy-mystery/#
From the above article:
“The bottom line is that the universe looks like it’s expanding about eight percent faster than you would have expected based on how it looked in its youth and how we expect it to evolve,” says study leader Adam Riess of the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore, Md. “We have to take this pretty darn seriously.” He and his colleagues described their findings, based on observations from the Hubble Space Telescope, in a paper submitted last week to the Astrophysical Journal and posted on the preprint server arXiv.
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August 16, 2016 at 1:48 pm
Astronomers mapped 1.2 million galaxies in a hunt for dark energy
Hundreds of astronomers have collaborated to make the largest three-dimensional map of galaxies on our universe.
By Jordan Rice | Published: Thursday, July 14, 2016
http://www.astronomy.com/news/2016/07/more-than-1-million-galaxies-are-mapped-to-research-dark-energy
From the above article:
In the quest for dark energy, astronomers have created an unprecedented 3D map of 1.2 million galaxies in a volume of about 650 cubic billion light years.
Hundreds of astronomers from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey III (SDSS-III) and the Max Planck Institutes for Extraterrestrial Physics (MPE) and for Astrophysics (MPA) contributed to this map. The astronomers found that the map agrees with the current cosmological model (the Lambda Cold Dark Matter model) and CONFIRMED (emphasis added) that dark energy is a cosmological constant.
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August 16, 2016 at 3:33 pm
Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration. Thomas A. Edison
Einstein’s Genius Changed Science’s Perception of Gravity
General relativity has grown more important than it was in Einstein’s day.
By Tom Siegfried 5:30AM, October 4, 2015
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/einsteins-genius-changed-sciences-perception-gravity
From the above article:
Albert Einstein opened humankind’s eyes to the universe.
Before Einstein, space seemed featureless and changeless, as Isaac Newton had defined it two centuries earlier. And time, Newton declared, flowed at its own pace, oblivious to the clocks that measured it. But Einstein looked at space and time and saw a single dynamic stage — spacetime — on which matter and energy strutted, generating sound and fury, signifying gravity.
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“So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks, receives; and he who seeks, finds; and to him who knocks, it will be opened.” (Luke 11:9-10)
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August 16, 2016 at 5:05 pm
The Teleological Argument from the Fine-Tuning of the Universe
August 23, 2014 by Jack Spell
http://www.jackspell.com/the-teleological-argument-from-the-fine-tuning-of-the-universe/
From the Introduction of the above article:
The teleological argument (i.e., the argument from design) has experienced something of a renaissance over the last half-century or so. In addition to the genetic and biochemical evidence that points to the existence of an Intelligent Designer of the cosmos, the primary fuel for this renaissance has been discoveries from and advances in fields like cosmology and theoretical physics, to name but a few. What scientists have come to discover is that the physics necessary to permit the existence of life—of any kind—depends upon a balance so unfathomably precise that it literally defies human comprehension; this is known as the fine-tuning of the universe.
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August 17, 2016 at 5:05 pm
Published on Feb 15, 2014
Dr. Hugh Ross is an astrophysicist educated at Caltech in California. He is founder of the think tank Reason’s to Believe. (reasons.org) Reason’s To Believe have developed a Creation Model based on mainstream science and correct Biblical scholarship. This is not a “young Earth” model. See how science is proving the God of the Bible.
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August 17, 2016 at 9:05 pm
Face it FA:
No matter how many videos you post, no matter how far you look into cosmology; no matter how much into forever you search, regardless of the science you try to get to agree with you, you will always be a leopard unable to change your presupposition spots. So please drop the pretence of science trying to use it to support your supernatural source, a source you shall never find because its existence is lost in the fornever and never era of religious imagination.
Do yourself and the world a favour and “Dump Trump” while you still have life to enter into the real kingdom and you don’t have to go any further than your own self according to the real Jesus, to find it…..so come on and get to know him of whom it testifies. Stop denying the master with one hand and praising him with the other.
I know it is difficult to admit that you are wrong to have wasted your whole life searching for the unicorn that has no existence save in the minds of the ancient purveyors of imaginative nonsense and their successive proselytes who, being witnesses to the past lot of lost souls, continue their ancestors’ losing message by never recognizing the one of whom it testifies.
Jesus never fit the paradigm of Mosaic observances and insignificant rituals and never will fit yours that continues to try and fit him into the mosaic like some magic piece of puzzle that needs hammering into as the missing link but you just can’t get it and you just can’t place it……….because he does not fit that paradigm and you are missing it completely, naively and losing every minute you use the old dogmatic ” but he must fit”, but he must fit” so make him fit”…use the hammer……..they say, never give in, never say I was wrong, stick to you guns come hell or high-water….while you are here you are in high water but after that where will you be if you cannot capitulate to the reality of a common sense man who came to tell you the way and you refuse to go in just like the Scribes and Pharisees. They all refused to leave their comfortable pews and were swept away in generational denial. Sound familiar?
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August 18, 2016 at 4:34 pm
Religion and Intelligent Design Impede Science and Close Off Inquiry?
by Rich Deem
http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/intelligent_design_religion_science.html
From the Introduction to the above article:
I have read a lot of articles against intelligent design, written by scientists and science education lobbyists. Common to most articles is the claim that intelligent design is just a backdoor approach for religious fundamentalism that is aimed to close off scientific inquiry. Are ID proponents really anti-science, religious zealots who want to impede scientific advance?
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“So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
For everyone who asks, receives; and he who seeks, finds; and to him who knocks, it will be opened.” (Luke 11:9-10)
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August 18, 2016 at 5:59 pm
Genetics and Homosexuality: Are People Born Gay?
The Biological Basis for Sexual Orientation
by Rich Deem
http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/genetics_of_homosexuality.html
From the Introduction to the above article:
Are people born gay or straight? Much of the current media sources assume the question is a solved scientific problem with all the evidence pointing toward a biological (probably genetic) basis for a homosexual orientation. Contrary to this perception, the question has been poorly studied (or studied poorly), although there is some evidence on both sides of question. In addition, many of the initial studies, which were highly touted by the media as “proof” for a biological basis for homosexuality, have been contradicted by later, more thorough studies. This evidence falls into four basic categories:
1. Brain structure
2. Possible hormonal influences
3. Concordance of homosexuality in twins
4. Concordance of genetic markers in siblings
5. Real genetic studies (GWAS)
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August 18, 2016 at 6:16 pm
Evolutionary Theories and Biblical Morality
http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/evolution_theories_morality.html
From the Introduction:
The mantra has been that evolutionary theory has no impact on a person’s moral beliefs. However, if we truly are the products of natural selection then morality is merely a product of culture and can encompass anything society defines it to be. Until recently, no studies had examined the role of evolutionary beliefs on moral behaviors. However, a recent study manipulated the belief in determinism, finding that instilling such a belief in individuals led to significantly increased incidences of cheating.
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August 19, 2016 at 6:29 am
Leo,
You’re wasting your time arguing. To quote Jason, “God is posited to explain what we know, not what we don’t.” Some theists know the universe was created 6000 years ago, some know that dinosaurs went for a ride in Noah’s ark, some know it was a worldwide flood and not plate tectonics that produced the geology of the planet and still others know that the physical constants of the universe were created by God so that 13.5 billion years later homo sapiens would come to know the glory of His creation. For every person who checks “none” when surveyed as to their religious affiliation, one or more join a Protestant fundamentalist church where on Thursday evening and Sunday morning they come to know that the Bible is the definitive textbook on the biological and geological history of our planet. Thus, the pessimism of my earlier, long winded post. It is futile to point out the flaws in the logic of the Bible literalists; you will never convince them of the fallacies of what they “know” about the physical world. As a result, a never ending supply of science challenged students will continue to come out of the Bible literalist Protestant churches and schools. Some become politicians. Others become Christian apologists who, like the politicians, are completely oblivious to or won’t publically admit to agreement with the wedge strategy charter of the Discovery Institute. Both groups are the perfect tools for Stephen Meyer and his buddies to introduce and rally support for the legislation the DI has written that is designed not to open minds, but to undermine the principles of MN science and replace it with a theistic, God-did-it version of science. All one can do is counter them at the local and state level by letting the members of the legislative committees, to whom the DI written legislation is assigned for consideration, know what will be the long term economic and medical consequences of destroying the science education of their children.
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August 19, 2016 at 7:47 am
General Introduction for Non-Believers: Part 1, Are Your Beliefs Consistent with Your Worldview?
by Rich Deem
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheismintro.html
From the Introduction of the above article:
This is the first part of a three part introduction to the evidence for belief in the God of Christianity. This first part considers what people believe and why. The main point is that we must consider the possibility that our beliefs are wrong, in order to realistically examine the evidence that contradicts our beliefs. This principle applies to both believers and skeptics alike. For myself, having grown up as an agnostic atheist (one who doesn’t believe in God, but doesn’t claim that no god exists), I have undergone a couple paradigm shifts as an adult. The first occurred as an undergraduate at USC in the early 1970’s, when I went from atheism to deism (a belief that a god created the universe), as a result of my perception that science had failed miserably in its explanation of the origin of the universe and the origin of life on earth. My second, more difficult paradigm shift occurred in the late 1980’s, when I determined that Jesus Christ was the God who created the universe and life in it. If you are ready to consider the possibility that your beliefs might be wrong, and look directly at the evidence, feel free to skip ahead to part 2. However, I feel it is important for skeptics to recognize that not all their beliefs are based upon physical evidence, and are even consistent with their own worldview.
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August 19, 2016 at 7:51 am
Is God Real? Does Science Answer “Is There a God?”
by Rich Deem
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/is_god_real.html
From the Introduction of the above article:
Part 1 of the introduction for non-believers showed that strong atheism contradicts its own worldview by believing the universe has a natural cause despite the lack of observational evidence for such a belief. However, since there is no direct observational evidence regarding the origin of the universe, why should one believe the equally unobserved hypothesis that God created the universe? Although there is no direct evidence for the cause of the universe, we now have a fair amount of knowledge about the early history of the universe and the laws that govern it, which provide us with indirect evidence that a super-intelligent Agent designed the universe. In order to keep this essay brief, much of the supporting information will not be included. However, you can click the links to the full-length articles for the details.
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August 19, 2016 at 7:55 am
Is Christianity True? Evidence for the Truth of the Christian Religion
by Rich Deem
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/is_christianity_true.html
From the Introduction to the above article:
Part 2 of the introduction for non-believers provided a survey of the evidence suggesting that the universe was designed by an intelligent agent. I came to that conclusion in 1973 as a result of my studies as an undergraduate at the University of Southern California (not exactly a bastion of religious fervor). However, it took another 15 years before I identified the Designer. Like many other skeptics, I assumed that one could not determine which god (if any) were correctly described by any of the world’s religious traditions. Looking back, the primary reason for my failure to identify the Designer was due to a lack of diligent research on my part. The intent of this page is to get you started on your research.
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August 19, 2016 at 12:35 pm
Bob:
I so agree with your sentiment; but alas, in many of us rational humans who have coined the phrase “hope springs eternal” and we cannot leave them to their foibles; we continue to strive for the cures of the afflicted, to find ways of mitigating the ravages of human diseases including those made by man.
And we plod on, pioneering research, not only for the people who deserve it because they agree with us but for those people who disagree with us as well because our search goes on out from the very depths of our humanity. And if ever there existed a kingdom of Good for the benefit of humanity, that is where it lies, in the depths of our humanity.
It is the place where we moan and groan, weep and cry and lament for those we never knew even as their burden touches the depths of our compassion and our tears well up for them.
So we are compelled by the Life Forces to continue striving for those, including ourselves, who in their knowledge remain ignorant and those who in their ignorance seek knowledge in spirit and truth for the antidote for all afflictions.
When I read the first words Jesus read when he began his campaign; when I read those words; IMO, he was talking directly to the religious people of that time period being held against their will.
He was talking about the disease of religion playing on their minds when he verbally expressed what he read:
And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
22 And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth.” Lk 4…..
And yet while these words were gracious to hear it soon became apparent that he was talking only to the religious about the disease of religion; that he was speaking about the poor, the downtrodden, the prisoner, the blind, the brokenhearted and the bruised who were made that way by religion.
That was the beginning of Jesus campaign but before that synagogue concluded its services, that very same day here is what happened shortly thereafter he tried to open their blinkered eyes and realized he was talking about them and their religion, the chapter continues:
28 And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath,
29 And rose up, and thrust him out of the city, and led him unto the brow of the hill whereon their city was built, that they might cast him down headlong.
30 But he passing through the midst of them went his way,
31 And came down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee, and taught them on the sabbath days.
32 And they were astonished at his doctrine: for his word was with power.
He taught them on the Sabbath days because this was the perfect time to thrust the falsities of religion and the supernatural, insignificant observations and useless rituals down the throats of the afflicted, in shackles, in chains, in thrall by religion.
And it has not changed a damn bit.
Frank Adamick is the species specimen that proves the case posting all the videos that regurgitate the same old, same old from the days of Jesus’ synagogue campaigning days when he tried in vain to loosen the film from the mind’s eye of the masses bewildered by the principalities, by powers, by the rulers of the darkness of this world, by spiritual wickedness in high places, by the Church, “The Empire of the Theotards”.
Oh, Jesus did amass a following indeed but after they crucified him, their main objective was to destroy what he built, not by destruction of buildings but by Trojan Horse infiltration and slowly changing the direction back into the supernaturalism of impotent ritualisms, back into what it was before the great disruptor, Jesus, of their zeal, said early in his campaign: “The (religious) world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.”
And finally whether or not Jesus was a real live person who walked this earth or if he was story book character…..But just because Jesus may be a storybook character, that doesn’t mean he’s not a good character, doesn’t mean he hasn’t got wisdom to impart. Didn’t He say the Kingdom of Heaven is within? Luke 17; 20,21, I think it was. And what a useful piece of information that is when you think about it.
Take care BM Scientist, believers hate knowledge because they can’t survive in a sea of knowledge, they drown in common sense and suffocate in the truth.
Knowledge to the believer is what they define as “Justified True Belief” and if that is not a thriller of a title for something stranger than fiction, out of the ordinary………….I don’t know what would qualify ………..when belief with a few descriptors becomes knowledge! That takes the cake as they say down on the farm.
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August 21, 2016 at 12:51 pm
When does a Biblical day begin?
Frank Borg
Click to access Article_Day%20begins%20in%20morning.pdf
From the above article:
Common belief according the widely used Roman calendar is that when the clock strikes midnight,
a new day begins. According to the Jewish calendar, the new day begins at sunset. Others teach that a new day begins at sunrise.
The question is, when does a day begin according to God’s calendar? What does He reveal to us through
His inspired Word on this most important subject? …
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August 21, 2016 at 1:08 pm
Examining Genesis 1 using the scientific method:
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August 21, 2016 at 1:49 pm
but test everything; hold fast what is good. (1 Thessalonians 5:21)
Published on Mar 27, 2016
A discussion centering on death before the Fall:
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August 22, 2016 at 8:10 am
Published on Apr 29, 2015
Assemblies of God (2014) – Fazale Rana explores questions like “Did we come from a Mitochondrial Eve and a Y-chromosomal Adam?” and “How does recent work in population genetics undermine some challenges from evolutionists?” This lecture is part of the 2014 Faith and Science Conference. Here is the playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
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August 22, 2016 at 8:44 pm
Published on May 11, 2012
During the past century, much of the world has accepted the theory of Evolution as fact. Yet the molecules-to-man theory has no direct evidence to support it at all. Origins provides overwhelming evidence in favor of Creation.
The theory of Evolution has been applied to most scientific fields and this video thoroughly exposes the blind speculation and evolutionary bias in three of these areas of science including: Cosmology, Chemistry, and Biology.
This visually rich, full production reveals conclusive evidence that the universe and all life were created by a Supernatural Being, and that the God of the Bible is that Creator.
Features widely-traveled Creationist speaker, Roger Oakland, who makes the issues easy-to-understand for laypeople. Various scientific experts share evidence and proofs.
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August 22, 2016 at 9:39 pm
First Amendment – Religion and Expression. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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August 23, 2016 at 7:46 am
Hugh Ross explains the ever-growing links between astrophysics and the Bible:
Published on Mar 22, 2016
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August 23, 2016 at 9:03 am
“During the past century, much of the world has accepted the theory of Evolution as fact. Yet the molecules-to-man theory has no direct evidence to support it at all. Origins provides overwhelming evidence in favor of “poof-poof” Creation. Now you see it; now you don’t.
Voila, See a man, made in the twinkling of an eye, with all his molecules intact; Voila, See a woman, made in the twinkling of a rib, with all of her molecules intact.
Voila, See a man without all his marbles; voila, See a woman forced to follow the man without all his marbles. See humanity with a few marbles short of a full game.
Voila the overwhelming evidence evidence of “Poof-Poof” Creation…molecules and all and only a few marbles short of a happy meal!
Who would’ve thunk it? So obvious.
Any fool knows that, they’re called religious believers inventors of pins and all the angels dancing thereon its head being chased by demons undoubtedly.
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August 23, 2016 at 10:20 am
Forget Hugh Ross’s explanation of the ever growing links of astrophysics to the bible. HERE is the real explanation.
Religion is a failed science but the science is growing so exponentially that even religion can not help but accept it and in order to accept the science they cannot do other than link it to the bible in order to give credence to the bible because religion is losing the argument on every front.
If the basic claims of religion are true, science is so blind that science is underlying reality. And the laws of nature are so susceptible to supernatural modifications as to render the whole enterprise of science ridiculous. If on the other hand the basic claims of religion are false, most of the people on this planet are profoundly confused about the nature of reality and beset by quite irrational hopes and fears. And many people are simply wasting their lives and spreading delusions, often with tragic results. It seems to me no thinking person can be indifferent between the two sides of this dichotomy.
So I want to suggest to you that whatever is true about our circumstance, ethically and spiritually, can be discovered now and can be talked about in language compatible with our growing scientific understanding of the world and of the human mind. Whatever discoveries are there to be made about how to maximize human well being can be talked about in language that is not an affront to all we’ve come to know in the last few thousand years.
And to subscribe to one of the iron age religions like Christianity, Judaism and Islam is to make the tacit claim that, that is impossible. That there is in fact no way to understand our circumstance using the tools of our modern understanding of the world. That some measure of superstition is necessary, some measure of mythology, that we have to lie just this much.
The point is we can place our confidence only in human conversation and the question is; do you want to place it in the 21st century conversation where we have all of the world’s literature and learning available to us; or, do you want to place it in a 1st century or a 7th century conversation as preserved in one of our holy books?
Religion is essentially a failed science. Religion was the discourse when all causes in the universe were opaque. We didn’t know the basis of anything. We didn’t know why we were here, We didn’t know how diseases spread or what disease was, why people died early and why others flourished, we didn’t know what caused thunderstorms or why crops failed, and naturally because of cognitive and behavioral imperative we formed descriptions of the world and we tried to figure out what’s going on.
We’d tell ourselves stories about our origins, about where we’re going and about causes in the world, and those stories given our pervasive ignorance, and our disposition to see agency in the world, to feel ourselves in relation to the world. These stories entail being in relation to invisible friends and enemies so we have this parent figure in the sky who’s going to take care of things if you live rightly and we have other demonic presences that we should be really worried about.
And gradually what you see happening is religion as rationality and dozens of specific sciences were birthed in the human conversation. You see religion on a hundred fronts losing the argument with science. On the front of human health and disease; you know, it use to be that you could get a diagnosis of demonic possession.
I mean that was a reasonable thing to believe you had if you were having seizures but now we have the science of neurology and we know about epilepsy so now when your kid has seizures, you know you don’t go to the church to get him diagnosed and treated by exorcism and so that’s a good thing. I’m just saying that religion is losing the argument on every front. On every other front, it’s losing the argument ethically and will lose the argument spiritually.
We will understand spiritual experience so well at some point at the level of the brain, at the level of changing attention in certain ways can change human experience, we’ll understand it in a way that makes a mockery of this kind of denominational religious talk about Jesus and Buddha and magic powers and that will break down in the same way it has broken down on medicine and that’s a process that we have to be honest about and let unfold.
It’s commonly imagined that atheists think there’s nothing beyond human life and human understanding. The truth is that atheists are free to admit that there’s much about the universe that we don’t understand. I mean it is obvious that we don’t understand the universe. But it is even more obvious that neither the bible nor the koran reflects our best understanding.
There could be life on other planets, complex life, technically accomplished civilizations, I mean just imagine a civilization a million years old as opposed to just a few thousand, atheists are free to imagine this possibility. They’re also free to admit that if such brilliant extraterrestrials exist, the bible and the koran are going to be even less impressive to them than they are to human atheists sharris.
So without linking the bible to science, the bible will have no credibility whatever and that’s the reason links between the bible and science are becoming more commonplace.
The old adage: “If you can’t beat them, join them”…….and when you join them, then try to beat them. Which is how the Pharisees and Scribes were able to infiltrate Christianity and change its direction and return it back to the old fashion, tired traditional Mosaic Law and Religion and eventually the real message from Jesus was forgotten and people still forget the evils of religion Jesus testified of and warned us about and perpetuate still the failed Laws of Moses and still plodding around in circles, spinning their tires in a snow blind pattern of dizzy-ny land fantasy of sacraments, sacrifices, prayer rituals, finger beading and bible thumping, hand-raising hallelujahs……….the Mosaic futility and insignificance of idle ceremonies, mummeries and observances, of no effect towards producing the social utilities which constitute the essence of virtue; such a one is the keeping of the Sabbath; thus, that the Pharisaical proselytes still continue to make a big deal of disregarding Jesus completely except in name fulfilling the scripture of Isaiah as in Matt 15:8: “‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. They worship Me in vain; And their reverence for Me consists of tradition learned by rote……”
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August 23, 2016 at 12:59 pm
But I, the LORD/YHWH, make the following promise: I have made a covenant governing the coming of day and night. I have established the fixed laws governing heaven and earth. (Jeremiah 33:25)
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Published on Mar 23, 2016
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August 23, 2016 at 2:35 pm
Breakthrough on the Cambrian Explosion
The Cambrian Explosion: The Construction of Animal Biodiversity. Douglas H. Erwin, James W. Valentine. Roberts and Company, 2013. 416 pp., illus. $48.00 (ISBN 9781936221035 cloth).
Mark A. S. McMenamin
↵Mark A. S. McMenamin (mmcmenam@mtholyoke.edu) is a tenured professor of geology at Mount Holyoke College in South Hadley, Massachusetts. His research is primarily focused on paleontology, particularly the Ediacaran biota.
http://bioscience.oxfordjournals.org/content/63/10/834.full
From the above article:
Three unsolved problems, above all others, command the attention of the scientific community. The first is whether there is or was life on Mars. The second concerns the origin of life. The third—arguably the most difficult of the three to answer—is what happened during the Cambrian explosion. In their book The Cambrian Explosion: The Construction of Animal Biodiversity, Douglas H. Erwin and James W. Valentine present a courageous effort to address this third problem. The book’s subtitle pays homage to the closing paragraphs of The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, in which Darwin reflected that “elaborately constructed forms, so different from each other, and dependent on each other in so complex a manner, have all been produced by laws acting around us” (Darwin 1872 [1859]). Why did these elaborate forms, so different from one another, appear so suddenly in the Cambrian Period of the Paleozoic Era?
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August 23, 2016 at 2:38 pm
FA:
Your scriptural quotes are similar to the quotes the Church used to convict Galileo of heresy and upon pain of death renounce science….Even so he remained under house arrest for the rest of his life because of miserable interpretations of zealot proselytes like yourself who use literal scriptures to rob men of their freedom in the name of the Gods your ancestors created in man’s image.
Chronicles 16:30….Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.
Psalm 93:1…..The Lord reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the Lord is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.
Psalm 96:10…..Say among the heathen that the Lord reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously.
Psalm 104:5……Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.
Ecclesiastes 1:5…..The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.
You ramble on with scriptural nonsense when you can’t interpret scripture metaphorically or understand parables or witticisms or anything else because you have learned by rote what the Church Leaders adhere to as Dogma, and blind you remain as Jesus clearly told you was well as what he told the bible scholars of his day. And you still don’t get it! Nor can you ever at the rate you are going. Your are stuck in a merry go round and round and round……
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August 23, 2016 at 2:45 pm
ltg,
What are you – a flat-earther?
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August 23, 2016 at 2:59 pm
And speaking of species:
Demystifying Evolution and the Species Problem
August 18th, 2016
By Dr. Anjeanette “AJ” Roberts
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/theorems-and-theology/demystifying-evolution-and-the-species-problem
From the above article:
Evolution is a word that refers to many different processes (chemical evolution, microevolution, microbial evolution, speciation, and macroevolution) with different underlying mechanisms. And like any word with multiple meanings, one has to be careful not to equivocate when speaking about evolution—so I periodically speak on the topic of “Unequivocating Evolution” at various RTB events.
Species is another word that has multiple referents, and it too is frequently equivocated during discussions of evolution. The ambiguous and confusing nature of the term species actually has a recognized name—it’s referred to as the “species problem.”
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August 23, 2016 at 5:00 pm
DNA: Designed for Flexibility
August 17th, 2016
By Dr. Fazale Rana
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/the-cells-design/dna–designed-for-flexibility
From the above article:
Over the years I’ve learned that flexibility is key to a happy and successful life. If you are too rigid, it can create problems for you and others and rob you of joy.
Recently, a team of collaborators from Duke University and several universities in the US discovered that DNA displays unexpected structural flexibility. As it turns out, this property appears to be key to life. In contrast, the researchers showed that RNA (DNA’s biochemical cousin) is extremely rigid, highlighting another one of DNA’s unique structural properties that make it ideal as the cell’s information storage system.
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August 25, 2016 at 8:04 pm
Journal of Science Teacher Education, 13(1): 1-12, 2002 1
©2002 Kluwer Academic Publishers, Printed in the Netherlands
Reforming Science Teaching: What Research says about Inquiry*
Ronald D. Anderson
University of Colorado, Boulder, Colorado, 80309, U.S.A.
Click to access Anderson-2002.pdf
From the above report:
Inquiry has a decades-long and persistent history as the central word used to
characterize good science teaching and learning. Even at a time when a new word,
constructivism, had entered the general educational lexicon as the descriptor of
good education, the authors of the National Science Education Standards (NSES)
chose to stay with inquiry and totally ignore the new word. But in spite of its
seemingly ubiquitous use, many questions surround inquiry. What does it mean to
teach science as, through, or with inquiry? Is the emphasis on science as inquiry,
learning as inquiry, teaching as inquiry or all of the above? Is it an approach to
science education that can be realized in the classroom or is it an idealized approach
that is more theoretical than practical? Is it something that the “average” teacher
can do, or is it only possible in the hands and minds of the exceptional teacher?
What are the goals of its use? Does it result in greater or better learning? How does
one prepare a teacher to utilize this type of science education? What barriers must
be overcome to initiate such science education in the schools? What dilemmas do
teachers face as they move to this form of science education? The list of questions
goes on. They are of particular importance to people committed to the NSES and
wanting to see these standards put into greater practice. Reformers from all
categories—teachers, teacher educators, administrators, policy makers and members
of the general public want to know what answers research has for such questions.
Given the central role of teacher education in the process of educational reform,
however, these questions are of particular interest to science teacher educators…. Teachers and others in
positions of leadership should focus on creating a climate of collaboration among
teachers and providing a context within which teachers can reflect on their values
and beliefs. The facets of the needed systemic process are many and must stay in
place over a long period of time.
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August 26, 2016 at 8:24 am
Science Education Within a Christian Worldview | JP Moreland, PhD
Published on Aug 25, 2016
Azusa Pacific University (2008) – Lecture by J. P. Moreland
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August 26, 2016 at 8:31 am
A Christian World View and its Impact on the Development of Modern Science | JP Moreland, PhD
Published on Aug 24, 2016
Azusa Pacific University (2008) – Lecture by J. P. Moreland
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August 27, 2016 at 2:57 pm
Here’s another article by Ronald Anderson recommending that, at least in the ideal classroom, science teachers should actively engage in a discussion of their student’s beliefs (the article loaded piecemeal on my computer; it was quicker to download the pdf):
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229789732_Teaching_the_theory_of_evolution_in_social_intellectual_and_pedagogical_context
At the same time, students shouldn’t be taught that it is okay to believe whatever they want about science when those beliefs are way outside the mainstream of accepted scientific knowledge:
http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/08/11/489513355/when-science-stands-up-to-creationism-what-it-means-and-doesn-t-mean
As for a Christian worldview, I think Peter Enns, in his book The Evolution of Adam, does a better job of defining a more workable solution in an age of science and Bible scholarship.
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August 27, 2016 at 7:22 pm
A Man Named Martin Luther
Theology, Philosophy and Science
Published on Aug 27, 2016
Lutheran Hour Ministries (2015) – In this five-session Bible study, Luther’s life and times are examined through the lens of history, religion and theology. Expanding on commentary from Rev. Gregory Seltz, Speaker for The Lutheran Hour, numerous scholars add their expertise and perspective to render an illuminating portrait of the life of this extraordinary human being. To see this video in parts: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
The influence and impact of Luther’s life is the stuff of serious study. As a forlorn sinner feeling lost and desperate before a stern and exacting Judge, Luther desponded of all hope for eternity. But as one who came to cling to the Spirit-delivered truths of justification by faith and the liberty believers experience by God’s grace, he rebounded to become a triumphant ambassador for the Gospel.
The details of Luther’s life — his childhood with his parents Hans and Margaret, his university pursuits, his decision to become a monk, his protestation of Catholic practices, his voluminous and erudite scholastic output, his life in hiding, and his roles as husband and father — are all considered in this study. A Man Named Martin is a fresh and explorative look at an individual who, down through the centuries, has increased in importance and vitality to the Christian church.
To this day, Luther’s staunch faith and the extent of his outreach, remain a standard for Christ-centered living to believers in the 21st-century.
Among the scholars and pastors featured in this documentary are Mary Jane Haemig, Joel Biermann, Gregory Seltz, Ken Schurb, Paul Maier, Robert Kolb, Daniel Preus.
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August 30, 2016 at 2:07 pm
Interview with Prof. John Lennox (a Christian and Scientist)
Published on Aug 29, 2016
Grenville Kent interviews scientist and Christian thinker John Lennox. This video is part of the Big Questions playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
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August 30, 2016 at 5:04 pm
Evidence-based faith:
Cold-Case Christianity: Synergy | Reliability of the Gospels | J. Warner Wallace
Published on Aug 13, 2016
Lecture by homicide detective (and atheist turned Christian) J. Warner Wallace. Wallace speaks on the reliability of the Gospels.
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August 31, 2016 at 7:32 am
Another Cold Case:
Piltdown Man: The Fact and Fantasy of the Hominid Fossil Record
August 24th, 2016
By Dr. Fazale Rana
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/the-cells-design/piltdown-man–the-fact-and-fantasy-of-the-hominid-fossil-record
From the above article:
“Over the years, at least 20 others have been accused of being the perpetrator, but in many cases, the allegation also includes Dawson as co-conspirator. This is largely because the story originated with him, he brought the first specimens to Dr. Arthur Smith Woodward, Keeper of Geology at the British Museum (Natural History) in 1912, nothing was ever found at the site when Dawson was not there, he is the only known person directly associated with the supposed finds at the second Piltdown site, the exact whereabouts of which he never revealed, and no further significant fossils, mammal or human, were discovered in the localities after his death in 1916.”
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August 31, 2016 at 5:08 pm
Did the Universe Begin? III: BGV Theorem
by ARON WALL
MAY 27, 2014
http://www.wall.org/~aron/blog/did-the-universe-begin-iii-bgv-theorem/
From the above article:
There is a theorem due to Borde, Guth, and Vilenkin which might be taken as evidence for a beginning of time.
Roughly speaking, this theorem says that in any expanding cosmology, spacetime has to be incomplete to the past. In other words, the BGV theorem tells us that while there might be an “eternal inflation” scenario where inflation lasts forever to the future, inflation still has to have had some type of beginning in the past. BGV show that “nearly all” geodesics hit some type of beginning of the spacetime, although there may be some which can be extended infinitely far back to the past.
If we assume that the universe was always expanding, so that the BGV theorem applies, then presumably there must have been some type of initial singularity.
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August 31, 2016 at 5:18 pm
Dr. Hugh Ross unpacks the parameters for origins of the universe and life, including human life, on planet Earth:
Published on Jun 7, 2016
“They are all straightforward to him who understands,
and right to those who find knowledge.” (Proverbs 8:9)
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September 3, 2016 at 8:44 pm
How the Origin of the Universe Points to the Existence of God
Published on Dec 7, 2015
J. Warner Wallace, author of God’s Crime Scene, discusses the nature of the universe and the evidence for God’s existence. Did the universe have a beginning? If so, what is the best explanation? Can the beginning of the universe be explained from “inside the room” of the natural universe, or does the best explanation for the universe lie “outside the room”? For more information about this “inside” or “outside the room” approach to the evidence in the universe, refer to J. Warner’s book, God’s Crime Scene and visit ColdCaseChristianity.com.
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September 3, 2016 at 8:48 pm
How the Origin of Life Points to the Existence of God
Published on Sep 29, 2015
This video, excerpted from J. Warner Wallace’s presentation of the evidence for God (from his book, God’s Crime Scene), summarizes the case for Gods existence from the origin of life. Has science answered the question of life’s origin? How do philosophically natural scientists tackle the “chicken and egg” problems related to the origin of life? What is the best explanation for the information found in the genetic code? For a robust review of the collective case for God’s existence from eight pieces of evidence “inside the room” of the natural universe, please refer to God’s Crime Scene: A Cold-Case Detective Examines the Evidence for a Divinely Created Universe. (For more information, visit http://www.ColdCaseChristianity.com)
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September 3, 2016 at 8:52 pm
How Consciousness Points to the Existence of God
Published on Sep 8, 2015
This video, excerpted from J. Warner Wallace’s presentation of the evidence for God (from his book, God’s Crime Scene), summarizes the case for Gods existence from consciousness. How does non-material consciousness emerge in a purely material universe? Is “mind” nothing more than “brain”? For a robust review of the collective case for God’s existence from eight pieces of evidence “inside the room” of the natural universe, please refer to God’s Crime Scene: A Cold-Case Homicide Detective Examines the Evidence for a Divinely Created Universe. (For more information, visit http://www.ColdCaseChristianity.com)
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September 3, 2016 at 9:40 pm
When one operates on a belief system, anything and everything will point to the object of that belief. The nature of Cultism is determined when the light of knowledge cannot penetrate the darkness of belief.
It is the blind ditch of superstition, the paranormal and the nothingness that feeds the insatiable appetite for everything that cannot be proved.
The Masters of Theology are Masters of the Unknowable and content to live and thrive in the culture of random dreams that point to the object of the Cult.
It is a form of mental illness fostered by the Masters that one succumbs to, when myths outwit the common sense of minds weakened by years of false indoctrination.
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September 3, 2016 at 11:05 pm
Naturalism & Materialism prove deficient in accounting for the full realm in which we live:
The Case for the Soul
InspiringPhilosophy
Published on Oct 30, 2014
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September 3, 2016 at 11:19 pm
The Case for Free Will
InspiringPhilosophy
Published on May 17, 2013
What does Alvin Plantinga, Ayn Rand, and Michio Kaku have in common? They all say we have free will. This is a case for free will and a refutation of Sam Harris’s book free will.
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September 3, 2016 at 11:23 pm
Is Atheism a Delusion?
InspiringPhilosophy
Published on Sep 2, 2016
So I hear from atheists all the time that religion is a delusion, but they never show evidence it is true. They just assume it is true without evidence. So I did a video to address this and show religion is perfectly consistent with normal brain functions and not a delusion. However, in my research I found that atheism appears to be abnormal for normal brain development. This video explains why.
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September 4, 2016 at 9:11 am
Stephen Meyer & Darwin’s Doubt on the John Ankerberg Show
Published on Jul 29, 2015
In an eight-episode series on The John Ankerberg Show, Dr. Stephen Meyer discusses the main arguments of his bestselling book Darwin’s Doubt. In this first episode, Dr. John Ankerberg and Dr. Stephen Meyer explore why a remarkable geologic event known as the Cambrian explosion is leading many scientists to reject the text-book theory of evolution known as neo-Darwinism. To order DVD copies of the program or series, visit http://www.jashow.org.
Stephen Meyer is the author of The New York Times best selling book Darwin’s Doubt: The Explosive Origin of Animal Life and the case for Intelligent Design (HarperOne, 2013). For more information on the book and to order your copy visit http://www.darwinsdoubt.com
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September 4, 2016 at 9:16 am
Intelligent Design & Origins: Exploring the Evidence
Published on Aug 13, 2014
Where did life come from? How did it begin? Did it come from an undirected, natural process or is it the result of a designing intelligence? In this special 5-part video series, Dr. John Ankerberg and Dr. Stephen Meyer discuss the evidence for intelligent design as the best explanation for the origin of life. In Part 1, Meyer explains what scientists have learned about cells and DNA since the time of Charles Darwin. Videos posted with permission.
Stephen Meyer is the author of The New York Times best selling book Darwin’s Doubt: The Explosive Origin of Animal Life and the case for Intelligent Design (HarperOne, 2013). For more information on the book and to order your copy visit http://www.darwinsdoubt.com
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September 4, 2016 at 9:44 am
A Sunday Sermon Serving Simple Saints Seeking Safe Secure Shelter:
SANITY SUPPLANTS SUPERNATURALISM.
One thing we must all remember is that everyone on earth is subject to a higher power(s); nobody can deny this; nobody chooses to be conceived and birthed; it is an event of a higher power(s).
That is not the delusion. The delusion of religion is that the higher power is personal, supernatural and affects individuals at the individual level. This is Theism……..the belief in a personal God who occasionally intervenes by answering prayer and performing miracles for some of his people some of the time. Now if Theism is a delusion how can Atheism be a delusion? Is Atheism a delusion of the delusion. It is a laughable claim, a disgraceful claim, a claim that makes it a mockery of language.
The higher powers of GEM: Gravity, Electricity, Magnetism for example: it would be a delusion to suggest that the higher powers that are both personal and supernatural and affects only believers or non believers or any particular group of people, as the case might be, when the reality is:
……Never pray to gravity or the universe or supernatural gods, they do not respond to human requests for intervention. Gravity like your caricature concept of god loves no man more the man who defies it not and loves no less the man who does……
Like sunshine and rain, gravity and the higher powers affect all things equally and never individually selective but personal en masse nevertheless affecting everybody. The delusion exists when the believer accepts that the higher powers cater to their personal needs while neglecting the needs of others who do not deserve it or who do not follow the traditional values ancient Theists attributed to the higher powers or they never said the right prayer. One man claims that God was responsible for his survival when the Twin Towers fell but what is that saying about the nearly 3000 who did not survive? That God liked him but didn’t like the others? That is the delusion.
Of course children do not have the knowledge at birth of rational purpose, rational purpose and discernment come only after a bundle of sufficient experiences from trials and errors so we learn good and bad, night and day, up and down, hot and cold, wet and dry, thirst, hunger and pain…….but children are also born with the residual reptilian brain that cannot distinguish between a living thing that looks like a twig crawling along the ground or a non living twig being blown along the ground and may react accordingly; children may pick either up and stick it in their mouth. It takes the higher, rational brain to figure this out, the reptile brain cannot which is the part of the brain subject religious ritualism caters to and indoctrinates by from birth.
Although I’m an atheist I prefer to think of myself as an Agnostic Fundamentalist; in other words, I don’t know. I don’t think anyone else knows either and anyone who disagrees with me is a filthy infidel swine. I’m sorry about that last bit but apparently those are the religious rules.
We’ve always speculated about what might lie beyond the stars, an activity not unlike theology only without all the cast iron certainties. And it’s fun to speculate about the big questions like the meaning of life because you never know somebody might actually come up with the answer; so far nobody has which would explain why there are so many expert opinions on this subject.
We prefer to nail our colors to the mast before we know if there’s a ship attached to it. And often we’ll defend that position to the death. Now if that doesn’t qualify as serious mental illness, I would love to be briefed on what exactly does qualify and why.
Clearly those early few months and years of life are a very sensitive time and whatever ideas are imprinted into the soft putty of the unformed mind at that stage stays there pretty much forever and yet for some reason, here in the civilized world, it’s still perfectly legal for us to indoctrinate our children with the most hateful and divisive absurdities it’s possible to imagine.
Creating in them not young, vibrant, healthy, inquiring minds but rather stunted little freakish bonsai minds that are no use to anyone but a perverted proselytizing preacher.
We not only allow this abuse, we actively encourage it; we throw public money at it.
Research that show blood flows and neutrons firing about something we do not know will show the same effect as asking similar questions about what we don’t know on any subject such as the supernatural gods, angels, demons, leprechauns, miracles, myth and magic.
Personalizing the greater powers is the delusion.
It’s often imagined that atheists are, in principle, closed to spiritual experience, but the truth is, there’s nothing that prevents an atheist from experiencing self transcending love or ecstasy or rapture or awe. In fact there’s nothing that prevents an atheist from going into a cave for a year or a decade and practicing meditation like a proper mystic. What atheists don’t tend to do is make unjustified and unjustifiable claims about the cosmos on the basis of those experiences.
There’s no question that disciplines like meditation and prayer can have a profound effect on the human mind. But do the positive experiences of, say, christian mystics over the ages suggest that Jesus is the sole savior of humanity? Not even remotely, because christians have been having these experiences but so have buddhists, so have muslims and even atheists. So there’s a deeper reality here and it makes a mockery of theism and religious denominations.
The fact is that whenever human beings make an honest effort to get at the truth they reliably transcend the accidents of their birth and upbringing and default to their common sense; unfortunately, not everybody can default from the intense brainwashing effects of controlled religious ritual indoctrination.
“A delusional thought is more often than not a delusion taught. Thus I hold out hope for the deluded mind, that it will eventually reset to its default position of common sense by birth and wiggle out from chambers of shackles imposed.” ltg
THE GATES OF ZYGOTE:
Once upon a time I was floating in a beautiful milky cloud of peace when suddenly, I received a telepathic communication, no words, no signs, just an understanding that: “The time has come”. Immediately upon receiving the communication I was thrust into a wormhole and emerged out into the dazzling light of a distant shimmering angel, it was an irresistible invitation and I hastened to propel forward.
I reached the angel; the essence of my being enveloped the embrace: we became as one; as suddenly as in the milky cloud, I was yet again overwhelmed with understanding: I had reached a destiny; I was in warmth and security; I was Home: Aaah, The Gates of Zygote. From whence I would eventually be birthed so that all there is of Good is available to s/he who is available to all there is of Good. And that’s all it takes for you to dream the dream too when you can see the Son of Man’s return is to retrieve men from their folly.
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September 5, 2016 at 8:03 am
Published August 16, 2016:
Ten top reasons why Theists would still be in the cave if everybody stopped thinking because they could not understand it and simply said God did it…….
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September 5, 2016 at 8:21 am
Published August 26, 2016.
Top 10 Harsh Truths About Religion:
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September 5, 2016 at 7:46 pm
How Free Agency Points to the Existence of God
Published on Nov 24, 2015
This video, excerpted from J. Warner Wallace’s presentation of the evidence for God (from his book, God’s Crime Scene), summarizes the case for God’s existence from our common experience of free agency. Is free will possible in an atheistic universe? How does free agency emerge in a deterministic, physical universe? For a robust review of the collective case for God’s existence from eight pieces of evidence “inside the room” of the natural universe, please refer to God’s Crime Scene: A Cold-Case Homicide Detective Examines the Evidence for a Divinely Created Universe. (For more information, visit http://www.ColdCaseChristianity.com)
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September 6, 2016 at 12:29 am
On Scientism, Philosophism and Religionism:
THE THREE
ISMS
OF
PERVERSION
Periander A. Esplana
Click to access TheThreeIsmsofPerversion.pdf
From the above article:
Now I know the answer why I trust the convictions of my mind, for long before
Rene Descartes thought of his famous axiom: “I think, therefore I am, “ Paul the apostle
of the Gentiles (Rom. 11:13) had already wrote: “But by the grace of God I am what I
am” (I Cor.15:10).
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September 6, 2016 at 1:47 pm
Stephen Meyer: Darwin: A Myth for the Post-Christian Mind
Ligonier Ministries
Published on Jun 7, 2016
The prominent atheist Richard Dawkins has said that “Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.” Many Christian leaders have determined that the only way to survive in a post-Christian culture is to attempt a synthesis of Darwinism and Christianity. In this session, Dr. Stephen Meyer will explain why it is precisely the wrong time to capitulate since Darwinism itself is being undermined daily by new scientific discoveries.
“The whole frame of nature bespeaks an intelligent author; and no rational enquirer can, after serious reflection, suspend his belief a moment with regard to the primary principles of genuine Theism and Religion.” – David Hume
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September 7, 2016 at 11:46 pm
Fire-Maker
DiscoveryScienceNews
Published on Sep 7, 2016
From computers to airplanes to life-giving medicines, the technological marvels of our world were made possible by the human use of fire. But the use of fire itself was made possible by an array of features built into the human body and the planet. Join biologist Michael Denton as he investigates the amazing story of how humans and our planet were exquisitely designed to harness the miraculous powers of fire and transform our planet. For more visit http://privilegedspecies.com/
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September 7, 2016 at 11:55 pm
Biology of the Baroque
DiscoveryScienceNews
Published on Feb 11, 2016
“The Biology of the Baroque” is a documentary that explores the amazing patterns, order, and beauty in biology that go beyond what can be explained by Darwinian evolution. It features geneticist Michael Denton and is inspired by Denton’s new book Evolution: Still a Theory in Crisis (2016).
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September 8, 2016 at 8:31 am
THE POWER OF FIRE:
I believe the Jews were the first to harness the miraculous power of fire and use that power of fire to raze their enemies by burning their villages, livestock, food and people to the ground which caused them to become the most hated people on the face of the earth to this very day…..a legacy they have lived and suffered because of, ever since.
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September 8, 2016 at 8:58 am
THE POWER OF FIRE…the tool of Israel to conquer their enemies
is only my belief but the bible tells the story of fire that razed the enemies from one end to the other:
Genesis 19:24
Then the LORD rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven,
Deuteronomy 12-17
When word comes in from one of your cities that God, your God, is giving you to live in, reporting that evil men have gotten together with some of the citizens of the city and have broken away, saying, “Let’s go and worship other gods” (gods you know nothing about), then you must conduct a careful examination. Ask questions, investigate. If it turns out that the report is true and this abomination did in fact take place in your community, you must execute the citizens of that town. Kill them, setting that city apart for holy destruction: the city and everything in it including its animals. Gather the plunder in the middle of the town square and burn it all—town and plunder together up in smoke, a holy sacrifice to God, your God. Leave it there, ashes and ruins. Don’t build on that site again. And don’t let any of the plunder devoted to holy destruction stick to your fingers. Get rid of it so that God may turn from anger to compassion, generously making you prosper, just as he promised your ancestors.
18 Yes. Obediently listen to God, your God. Keep all his commands that I am giving you today. Do the right thing in the eyes of God, your God.
Numbers 31:9
The sons of Israel captured the women of Midian and their little ones; and all their cattle and all their flocks and all their goods they plundered. 10 Then they burned all their cities where they lived and all their camps with fire. 11 They took all the spoil and all the prey, both of man and of beast.…
Jeremiah 49:
49 1-6 God’s Message on the Ammonites:
“Doesn’t Israel have any children,
no one to step into her inheritance?
So why is the god Milcom taking over Gad’s land,
his followers moving into its towns?
But not for long! The time’s coming”
—God’s Decree—
“When I’ll fill the ears of Rabbah, Ammon’s big city,
with battle cries.
She’ll end up a pile of rubble,
all her towns burned to the ground.
Then Israel will kick out the invaders.
I, God, say so, and it will be so.
Wail Heshbon, Ai is in ruins.
Villages of Rabbah, wring your hands!
Dress in mourning, weep buckets of tears.
Go into hysterics, run around in circles!
Your god Milcom will be hauled off to exile,
and all his priests and managers right with him.
Why do you brag of your once-famous strength?
You’re a broken-down has-been, a castoff
Who fondles his trophies and dreams of glory days
and vainly thinks, ‘No one can lay a hand on me.’
Well, think again. I’ll face you with terror from all sides.”
Word of the Master, God-of-the-Angel-Armies.
“You’ll be stampeded headlong,
with no one to round up the runaways.
Matthew 22:7
“But the king was enraged, and he sent his armies and destroyed those murderers and set their city on fire.
Numbers 31:10
Then they burned all their cities where they lived and all their camps with fire.
Judges 20:38
Now the appointed sign between the men of Israel and the men in ambush was that they would make a great cloud of smoke rise from the city.
Judges 20:48
The men of Israel then turned back against the sons of Benjamin and struck them with the edge of the sword, both the entire city with the cattle and all that they found; they also set on fire all the cities which they found.
Joshua 6:24
They burned the city with fire, and all that was in it. Only the silver and gold, and articles of bronze and iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the LORD.
Joshua 8:8
“Then it will be when you have seized the city, that you shall set the city on fire. You shall do it according to the word of the LORD. See, I have commanded you.”
Joshua 8:19
The men in ambush rose quickly from their place, and when he had stretched out his hand, they ran and entered the city and captured it, and they quickly set the city on fire.
Joshua 8:28ts
So Joshua burned Ai and made it a heap forever, a desolation until this day.
Joshua 11:11
They struck every person who was in it with the edge of the sword, utterly destroying them; there was no one left who breathed. And he burned Hazor with fire.
Joshua 11:13
However, Israel did not burn any cities that stood on their mounds, except Hazor alone, which Joshua burned.
Jeremiah 50:32
“The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set fire to his cities And it will devour all his environs.”
Hosea 8:14
For Israel has forgotten his Maker and built palaces; And Judah has multiplied fortified cities, But I will send a fire on its cities that it may consume its palatial dwellings.
Isaiah 1:7
Your land is desolate, Your cities are burned with fire, Your fields–strangers are devouring them in your presence; It is desolation, as overthrown by strangers.
Numbers 21:28
“For a fire went forth from Heshbon, A flame from the town of Sihon; It devoured Ar of Moab, The dominant heights of the Arnon.
Judges 18:27
Then they took what Micah had made and the priest who had belonged to him, and came to Laish, to a people quiet and secure, and struck them with the edge of the sword; and they burned the city with fire.
1 Samuel 30:1
Then it happened when David and his men came to Ziklag on the third day, that the Amalekites had made a raid on the Negev and on Ziklag, and had overthrown Ziklag and burned it with fire;
1 Samuel 30:3
When David and his men came to the city, behold, it was burned with fire, and their wives and their sons and their daughters had been taken captive.
1 Samuel 30:14
“We made a raid on the Negev of the Cherethites, and on that which belongs to Judah, and on the Negev of Caleb, and we burned Ziklag with fire.”
1 Kings 9:16
For Pharaoh king of Egypt had gone up and captured Gezer and burned it with fire, and killed the Canaanites who lived in the city, and had given it as a dowry to his daughter, Solomon’s wife.
Jeremiah 49:2
“Therefore behold, the days are coming,” declares the LORD, “That I will cause a trumpet blast of war to be heard Against Rabbah of the sons of Ammon; And it will become a desolate heap, And her towns will be set on fire Then Israel will take possession of his possessors,” Says the LORD.
Jeremiah 49:27
“I will set fire to the wall of Damascus, And it will devour the fortified towers of Ben-hadad.”
Jeremiah 46:19
“Make your baggage ready for exile, O daughter dwelling in Egypt, For Memphis will become a desolation; It will even be burned down and bereft of inhabitants.
Judges 9:49
All the people also cut down each one his branch and followed Abimelech, and put them on the inner chamber and set the inner chamber on fire over those inside, so that all the men of the tower of Shechem also died, about a thousand men and women.
Judges 9:52
So Abimelech came to the tower and fought against it, and approached the entrance of the tower to burn it with fire.
Jeremiah 51:30
The mighty men of Babylon have ceased fighting, They stay in the strongholds; Their strength is exhausted, They are becoming like women; Their dwelling places are set on fire, The bars of her gates are broken.
Ezekiel 23:47
‘The company will stone them with stones and cut them down with their swords; they will slay their sons and their daughters and burn their houses with fire.
Ezekiel 30:16
“I will set a fire in Egypt; Sin will writhe in anguish, Thebes will be breached And Memphis will have distresses daily.
Ezekiel 30:14
“I will make Pathros desolate, Set a fire in Zoan And execute judgments on Thebes.
Habakkuk 2:13
“Is it not indeed from the LORD of hosts That peoples toil for fire, And nations grow weary for nothing?
Zechariah 9:4
Behold, the Lord will dispossess her And cast her wealth into the sea; And she will be consumed with fire.
Luke 17:29
but on the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.
Jeremiah 51:58
Thus says the LORD of hosts, “The broad wall of Babylon will be completely razed And her high gates will be set on fire; So the peoples will toil for nothing, And the nations become exhausted only for fire.”
Revelation 18:9
“And the kings of the earth, who committed acts of immorality and lived sensuously with her, will weep and lament over her when they see the smoke of her burning,
Revelation 18:18
and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What city is like the great city?’
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September 8, 2016 at 10:33 am
What Makes the Case for God’s Existence So Strong?
pleaseconvinceme
Published on Apr 4, 2016
J. Warner Wallace is interviewed by Leon Fontaine of the Leon Show and talks about the evidence for God’s existence. What kinds of evidence can we use to make the case for God? What makes the case so strong? What tools can we borrow from crime scene investigations to help us make the case to others? For more information about the Leon Show, please visit: http://www.miraclechannel.ca/leon-show/. For more information about J. Warner Wallace’s book, God’s Crime Scene, please visit: http://www.coldcasechristianity.com.
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September 11, 2016 at 5:17 pm
1. God Is Not Great: Christopher Hitchens and Religion – A Christian Response
Theology, Philosophy and Science
Published on Dec 8, 2015
Gene Cook and Paul Manata refute and critique atheist Christopher Hitchens and his book God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything. This video is part of the God is not Great playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
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September 12, 2016 at 8:12 pm
Origin of Life – How Life Started on Earth
Cosmology Today
Published on Jun 2, 2016
Four and a half billion years ago, the young Earth was a hellish place—a seething chaos of meteorite impacts, volcanoes belching noxious gases, and lightning flashing through a thin, torrid atmosphere. Then, in a process that has puzzled scientists for decades, life emerged. But how? Mineralogist Robert Hazen as he journeys around the globe. From an ancient Moroccan market to the Australian Outback, he advances a startling and counterintuitive idea—that the rocks beneath our feet were not only essential to jump-starting life, but that microbial life helped give birth to hundreds of minerals we know and depend on today. It’s a theory of the co-evolution of Earth and life that is reshaping the grand-narrative of our planet’s story.
Geology teaches that Earth went from lifeless rock to vibrant living planet in six phases denoted by colors: black, gray, blue, red, white and green.
The Bible teaches: For in six days the LORD/YHWH made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD/YHWH blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. (Exodus 20:11)
These two teachings are largely congruent.
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September 12, 2016 at 9:53 pm
Frank:
This sure doesn’t sound like anything out of Genesis which leads me to ask the question, why did you use it?
“…………..Four and a half billion years ago, the young Earth was a hellish place—a seething chaos of meteorite impacts, volcanoes belching noxious gases, and lightning flashing through a thin, torrid atmosphere…………..”
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September 13, 2016 at 12:25 am
ltg,
Go to post # 9. in “How a Dice can show that God exists”.
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September 13, 2016 at 6:15 am
Hugh Ross – Cosmic Miracles
General Han Solo
Published on Mar 14, 2016
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September 13, 2016 at 6:19 am
Snakes & Scorpions – 119 Ministries
Published on May 31, 2013
Many of us already know that the physical teaches the spiritual, and vice versa…now we take that concept and apply it to snakes and scorpions, Biblical metaphors for the adversary.
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September 13, 2016 at 9:51 am
God and Big Bang Science | Hugh Ross, PhD
Theology, Philosophy and Science
Published on May 9, 2016
http://www.reasons.org – Astronomer and physicist Hugh Ross speaks about some of the Church’s misunderstanding of the Big Bang Theory. Furthermore, he shows how it actually supports the Bible, thus Christians need not be afraid of the Big Bang Theory.
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September 13, 2016 at 8:50 pm
LEE STROBEL The Case for a Creator Full documentary
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Published on Sep 11, 2013
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September 13, 2016 at 9:17 pm
Science News Flash: 3.7 Billion-Year-Old Fossils Perplex Origin-of-Life Researchers
September 7th, 2016
By Dr. Fazale Rana
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/the-cells-design/science-news-flash–3.7-billion-year-old-fossils-perplex-origin-of-life-researchers
From the above article:
As Hugh Ross and I discuss in Origins of Life, geochemists have unearthed a number of chemical markers in the Isua Supracrustal Belt (ISB) of western Greenland that strongly hint at microbial life on Earth between 3.7 and 3.8 billion years ago. But origin-of-life researchers debate the bio-authenticity of these geochemical signatures, because a number of potential abiotic processes can produce similar geochemical profiles.
Most scientists doubted that fossils would ever be unearthed in the Isua rock formations because these outcrops have undergone extensive metamorphosis, experiencing high temperatures and pressures—conditions that would destroy fossils. But these newly exposed formations contain regions that have experienced only limited metamorphosis, making it possible for fossils to survive.
Careful microscopic and chemical characterization of the Isua stromatolites affirms their biogenecity. These analyses also indicate that they formed in shallow water marine environments.
These recently discovered stromatolites (and the previously detected geochemical life signatures in the Isua formations) indicate that a complex and diverse ecology of microorganisms existed on Earth as far back as 3.7 billion years ago.
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September 13, 2016 at 11:11 pm
What Does a Ninth Planet Mean for the Creation Model?
September 5th, 2016
By Dr. Hugh Ross
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/todays-new-reason-to-believe/what-does-a-ninth-planet-mean-for-the-creation-model
From the above article:
Recent research establishes that in order for advanced life to exist on Earth, the solar system must start with two gas giant planets (Jupiter and Saturn) and three ice giant planets (Uranus, Neptune, and another planet approximately the size of Neptune). As Jupiter and Saturn and, to a lesser degree, Uranus and Neptune migrate in toward the sun, stop their inward migration, and then begin to migrate outward from the sun (see figure 1), one of the ice giant planets gets ejected from the solar system.
This ejection model, known as the modified Grand Tack, is the only model that successfully explains the current configuration of the solar system’s eight planets and five belts of asteroids and comets. As I explain in Improbable Planet, all eight planets and all five belts of asteroids and comets play a necessary role in making the advanced civilization that is required for billions of humans to hear and respond to God’s offer of redemption.
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September 14, 2016 at 7:01 am
The following excerpt is guided by the Law of Logical Argument:
“………..all eight planets and all five belts of asteroids and comets play a necessary role in making the advanced civilization that is required for billions of humans to hear and respond to God’s offer of redemption.”
Law of Logical Argument – Anything is possible IF you don’t know what you are talking about.
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September 14, 2016 at 7:38 am
Anybody with intellectual vitality will immediately seize upon the beauty of reason.
You will find no better argument in favour of common sense than this captivating talk…and oh yes, the bible does play a prominent role in many aspects of our lives as you will plainly see when passages of the bible are actually read comparing them to our daily lives:
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September 14, 2016 at 10:12 pm
Proverbs 2
My son, if you will receive my words
And treasure my commandments within you,
Make your ear attentive to wisdom,
Incline your heart to understanding;
For if you cry for discernment,
Lift your voice for understanding;
If you seek her as silver
And search for her as for hidden treasures;
Then you will discern the fear of the LORD/YHWH
And discover the knowledge of God.
For the LORD/YHWH gives wisdom;
From His mouth come knowledge and understanding.
He stores up sound wisdom for the upright;
He is a shield to those who walk in integrity,
Guarding the paths of justice,
And He preserves the way of His godly ones.
Then you will discern righteousness and justice
And equity and every good course.
For wisdom will enter your heart
And knowledge will be pleasant to your soul;
Discretion will guard you,
Understanding will watch over you,
To deliver you from the way of evil,
From the man who speaks perverse things;
From those who leave the paths of uprightness
To walk in the ways of darkness;
Who delight in doing evil
And rejoice in the perversity of evil;
Whose paths are crooked,
And who are devious in their ways;
To deliver you from the strange woman,
From the adulteress who flatters with her words;
That leaves the companion of her youth
And forgets the covenant of her God;
For her house sinks down to death
And her tracks lead to the dead;
None who go to her return again,
Nor do they reach the paths of life.
So you will walk in the way of good men
And keep to the paths of the righteous.
For the upright will live in the land
And the blameless will remain in it;
But the wicked will be cut off from the land
And the treacherous will be uprooted from it.
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September 14, 2016 at 10:36 pm
Hugh Ross – Book of Job and Earth’s Fossils on the Moon
General Han Solo
Published on Mar 13, 2016
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September 14, 2016 at 11:55 pm
Why Does Creation Make Sense? – Lee Strobel
firstcauseargument
Published on Apr 17, 2014
March 30, 2014 – Lee Strobel explains the fine tuning and the beginning of the universe.
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September 15, 2016 at 12:04 am
Why Objective Moral Truth Is Best Explained by the Existence of God (Part 1)
pleaseconvinceme
Published on Jun 25, 2015
In this episode of the Cold-Case Christianity Broadcast, J. Warner Wallace examines the nature and existence of objective, transcendent moral truths. If such truths truly exist, how can we account for them? Is there a naturalistic explanation for moral truth or is the best explanation the existence of an objective, transcendent moral law giver? (For more information, visit http://www.ColdCaseChristianity.com)
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September 15, 2016 at 12:09 am
Why Objective Moral Truth Is Best Explained by the Existence of God (Part 2)
pleaseconvinceme
Published on Jun 25, 2015
In this episode of the Cold-Case Christianity Broadcast, J. Warner Wallace examines the nature and existence of objective, transcendent moral truths. If such truths truly exist, how can we account for them? Is there a naturalistic explanation for moral truth or is the best explanation the existence of an objective, transcendent moral law giver? (For more information, visit http://www.ColdCaseChristianity.com)
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September 15, 2016 at 12:15 am
The Problem of Evil and Suffering in the World | J. Warner Wallace
Theology, Philosophy and Science
Published on Sep 22, 2015
Okotoks Evangelical Free Church (March 1, 2015) – Lecture by homicide detective J. Warner Wallace. This video is part of the Cold-Case Christianity Apologetics Conference Retreat: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
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September 16, 2016 at 6:44 pm
The Probability of Life’s Existence Elsewhere in the Universe – Dr. Hugh Ross
Newton’s Prisca Theologia
Published on Nov 27, 2015
Don’t get your hopes up.
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September 16, 2016 at 7:47 pm
Programming of Life – Intelligent Design or Evolution ?
Loo Cipher
Published on May 27, 2012
Intelligent Design or Evolution ?
The probability of a simple cell evolving by undirected natural processes is 1 in 10 to the 340,000,000 power .
Evolution = Operationally Impossible
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September 17, 2016 at 10:02 am
Anybody with intellectual integrity will immediately seize upon the vitality of reason.
Programming of Life 2: EARTH
Programming of Life
Published on Aug 3, 2015
http://programmingoflife.com
The Earth is an extremely complex and uniquely programmed planet. The smallest degree of change could cause significant effects on us and our surroundings. The distance between the earth and the sun; the levels of oxygen, carbon dioxide and nitrogen in the air; the angle and speed of the earth’s rotation; gravitational force; atmospheric pressure and the list goes on. If any of these parameters were to change, even slightly, earth would not be the planet we know today. We’re living on the most unique and robust planet in the entire universe and the more we research the more we discover just how much of a razor’s edge we’re really on. Join us as we explore science in an effort to better understand the origins of life.
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September 17, 2016 at 3:05 pm
“……………..the levels of oxygen, carbon dioxide and nitrogen in the air; the angle and speed of the earth’s rotation; gravitational force; atmospheric pressure and the list goes on. If any of these parameters were to change, even slightly, earth would not be the planet we know today………..”
Do you or any of your support group assert that there was not a time the earth was not the planet as the way we know it?
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September 20, 2016 at 8:06 pm
Does the Evolutionary Paradigm Stymie Scientific Advance?
September 12th, 2016
By Dr. Fazale Rana
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/the-cells-design/does-the-evolutionary-paradigm-stymie-scientific-advance
From the above article:
The evolutionary paradigm can also shut down scientific inquiry, delaying the discovery of key scientific insights, and often with important biomedical implications.
This point is powerfully illustrated by the latest work by a team of researchers from Duke University. These investigators demonstrated that the highly repetitive satellite DNA associated with centromeres displays function.
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September 20, 2016 at 8:28 pm
Q&A: Is Christianity a Science Showstopper?
July 3, 2014
By Dr. Fazale Rana
http://www.reasons.org/articles/q-a-is-christianity-a-science-showstopper
From the above article:
A few years ago, I took part in an email exchange with a prominent origin-of-life researcher after he read my book Origins of Life (coauthored with Hugh Ross). He expressed the concern that “the creationist perspective stops the questioning process.”
I have found that this sentiment is widely held among scientists—and, frankly, it is a legitimate objection on some level. If the questioning process grinds to a halt, then science becomes impossible. Responding to this concern was one motivation for me and Hugh to develop and present a creation model for the origin of life. As scientists ourselves, we have no desire to stultify the question and research process. Rather, we believe that integrating biblical teachings on the origin of life with scientific data to form a legitimate model (replete with predictions) actually encourages the questioning process. Perhaps the creation model approach may even lead the scientific community to new and productive paths in the pursuit of life’s origin.
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September 20, 2016 at 8:58 pm
First Light: The Dark Age of the Universe
Deep Astronomy
Published on Oct 5, 2012
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This video is the first of a series that will highlight the science behind The James Webb Space Telescope.
JWST will have the capability of showing us a part of the universe we’ve never seen before: a time when the first stars were born, lived their lives, and died.
Here, the concepts of recombination, reionization, the first stars and black holes are presented. JWST will give us our first glimpse into this time in our universal history.
This video was produced over the summer as part of the STScI Summer Student Program. I had the privilege of working with Aimei Kutt and +Tiffany Davis to make a video highlighting some of the amazing science The James Webb Space Telescope will allow us to accomplish.
Aimei produced the wonderful animation sequences you see and Tiffany edited the video and created the graphics and titles. They both worked on the music (and learned how time consuming that part is).
It is my pleasure to offer this to you, I hope you enjoy watching it as much as we enjoyed making it.
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September 22, 2016 at 7:40 am
Pragmatic considerations to avert a cataclysmic demise while benefiting human civilization at the same time:
White House, NASA Discuss Asteroid Redirect Mission
NASA
Published on Sep 14, 2016
Officials from the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) and NASA held a live Asteroid Redirect Mission (ARM) discussion at the space agency’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. During the event on Wednesday, Sept. 14, OSTP’s Dr. John P. Holdren, NASA’s Administrator Charles Bolden and ARM Program Director Dr. Michele Gates, highlighted the mission’s scientific and technological benefits, how the mission will support NASA’s goal of sending humans to Mars in the 2030s, and how ARM will demonstrate technology relevant to defending Earth from potentially hazardous asteroids.
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September 22, 2016 at 8:04 pm
“Prove to me that matter is inert, and I
shall grant you a Creator. Show me that Nature is not sufficient unto herself, and I shall gladly
allow you to give her a Master. But until you can do this, I shall not yield one inch. I am
convinced only by evidence, and evidence is provided by my senses alone.” –
Dialogue between a Priest and a Dying Man
By the Marquis de Sade
Intelligent Design – Absolute Proof
JW Lucien
Published on Feb 19, 2015
There is a conspiracy to prevent persons from seeing the truth – that there is absolute proof of intelligent design. Why so many accept blindly the theory of evolution? It is due to this – (2 Corinthians 4:3, 4) If, in fact, the good news we declare is veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things (Satan) has blinded the minds of the unbelievers. . .
(2 Timothy 4:3) For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the wholesome teaching, but according to their own desires, they will surround themselves with teachers to have their ears tickled.
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September 23, 2016 at 5:34 pm
What Are the Odds? (God and Science) | Hugh Ross, PhD
Theology, Philosophy and Science
Published on Aug 17, 2015
http://www.reasons.org – Eastside Christian Church (February 2015) – Lecture by Hugh Ross. This video is part of the ‘Amplify Your Faith (2015)’ playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list…
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September 23, 2016 at 5:47 pm
BIBLIOGRAPHIC AND ANNOTATED LIST OF
PEER-REVIEWED PUBLICATIONS
SUPPORTING INTELLIGENT DESIGN
UPDATED DECEMBER, 2015
http://www.discovery.org/f/10141
From the above pdf:
PART I: INTRODUCTION
While intelligent design (ID) research is a new scientific field, recent years have been a period of
encouraging growth, producing a strong record of peer-reviewed scientific publications.
In 2011, the ID movement counted its 50th peer-reviewed scientific paper and new publications
continue to appear. As of 2015, the peer-reviewed scientific publication count had reached 90.
Many of these papers are recent, published since 2004, when Discovery Institute senior fellow
Stephen Meyer published a groundbreaking paper advocating ID in the journal Proceedings of
the Biological Society of Washington. There are multiple hubs of ID-related research….
From page 85:
Jonathan Wells, “The Membrane Code: A Carrier of Essential Biological Information
That Is Not Specified by DNA and Is Inherited Apart from It,” pp. 474-488, in Robert J.
Marks II, Michael J. Behe, William A. Dembski, Bruce L. Gordon, and John C. Sanford
eds., Biological Information: New Perspectives (Singapore: World Scientific, 2013).
In this paper, Jonathan Wells argues that “a genetic program is not sufficient for
embryogenesis: biological information outside of DNA is needed to specify the body
plan of the embryo and much of its subsequent development.” Wells elaborates:
Some of that information is in cell membrane patterns, which contain a two- dimensional
code mediated by proteins and carbohydrates. These molecules specify
targets for morphogenetic determinants in the cytoplasm, generate endogenous
electric fields that provide spatial coordinates for embryo development, regulate
intracellular signaling, and participate in cell-cell interactions. Although the
individual membrane molecules are at least partly specified by DNA sequences, their
two-dimensional patterns are not. Furthermore, membrane patterns can be
inherited independently of the DNA.
Does this epigenetic information pose a problem for neo-Darwinism? Wells thinks it
does:
One could speculate that accidental changes in membrane patterns — analogous to
accidental mutations in DNA — could provide the missing raw materials for
evolution. Yet two- and three-dimensional information-carrying patterns are likely to
entail more specified complexity than the one-dimensional information in DNA
sequences, making beneficial “mutations” in such patterns much less probable than
beneficial mutations in DNA. At the very least, calculations of the time required for
evolution will now have to take into account these higher dimensions of biological
information.
Thus, any viable model for the origin of biological information must explain not just the
information in gene-coding DNA, but also the origin of the information in non-coding
DNA, and the origin of epigenetic information. That, as even some evolutionary
biologists are starting to acknowledge, is a tall order.
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September 27, 2016 at 10:58 am
How the Gay Agenda Began – FULL DOCUMENTARY
TheCompleteTruthBlog
Published on Sep 20, 2015
Alfred Kinsey is the monster who’s research can be found solely responsible for the advancement of the homosexual agenda in the world today.
This Satanic sick paedophile who tortured and abused children, lied about numbers and statistics to encourage a gay revolution in America and set the tone for the rest of the world.
It is a satanic agenda, and this amazing look at how it began and who it began with, will explain a lot.
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October 1, 2016 at 12:36 pm
More Evidence of Mass Extinction Event Challenging Evolutionary Models
September 19th, 2016
By Dr. Hugh Ross
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/todays-new-reason-to-believe/more-evidence-of-mass-extinction-event-challenging-evolutionary-models
From the above article:
Mass extinction and mass speciation events are prominently featured in creation vs. evolution debates. Evolutionists argue that the mass extinction events were sufficiently tepid and allowed enough life-forms to survive so that they could naturally evolve during the mass speciation events occurring thereafter. Creationists respond by pointing out that the mass extinction events appear to be too catastrophic for the mass speciation events to be explained by naturalistic evolution. They also point out that at least some of the time windows between the mass extinction and mass speciation events are too narrow for naturalistic evolution. Thus, major points of contention between creationists and evolutionists are over the question of, “Just how catastrophic were the mass extinction events? And how long were the time windows between the mass extinction events and the mass speciation events?”
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October 1, 2016 at 12:55 pm
The Inert vs. the Living State of Matter: Extended Criticality, Time Geometry, Anti-Entropy – An Overview
Giuseppe Longo and Maël Montévil
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3286818/
From the above research article:
Abstract
The physical singularity of life phenomena is analyzed by means of comparison with the driving concepts of theories of the inert. We outline conceptual analogies, transferals of methodologies and theoretical instruments between physics and biology, in addition to indicating significant differences and sometimes logical dualities. In order to make biological phenomenalities intelligible, we introduce theoretical extensions to certain physical theories. In this synthetic paper, we summarize and propose a unified conceptual framework for the main conclusions drawn from work spanning a book and several articles, quoted throughout.
Keywords: criticality, biological time, anti-entropy, theoretical biology, symmetry, allometry, incompleteness
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October 5, 2016 at 6:16 am
What convinced Antony Flew that there was a God?
CreativeConfluence
Published on Sep 23, 2015
It was Michael Behe who pointed out that most people did not know very intimately what lay inside the “Black Box” or CPU of a computer. They were comfortable working with the computer without knowing about its complexity. Behe notes that it is the same in other fields as well. In fact, most people deal with nature without knowing about its complexity. This is Darwin’s “Black Box.” In our times, the sequencing of DNA helped us to see for the first time the amazing complexity of biological life. Antony Flew was one such person who came face to face with the intricate design of life and he followed the evidence to its rightful end.
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October 16, 2016 at 3:45 pm
Fingerprints Of Creation – English
Earth Science Associates
Uploaded on Feb 19, 2007
Discover what evolutionary geologists and geophysicists call “a tiny mystery”… microscopic scientific evidence that appears to undenyingly support the instantaneous creation of the earth’s foundation rocks – the granites.
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October 17, 2016 at 6:13 pm
Hydroplate Theory Overview (parts 1-6 combined) updated
Bryan Nickel
Published on Aug 8, 2016
In depth overview of Walt Brown’s Hydroplate Theory
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October 23, 2016 at 10:27 am
Science Should Be Based On What Is Observed – Dr. Walt Brown Speaking of Censorship in Science
Field Interference
Published on Mar 18, 2015
Guesswork does not entail science. Evolutionists use science, yes, but not when they put theory in place of empirical observations like they do when they claim that one genome will become another. This has yet to be seen and, therefore, has no empirical basis.
LESSON IN CRITICAL THINKING: Empirical data has nothing to do with belief. It speaks for itself.
Micro-evolution is defined as changes to a species, and those changes remain within the same genome; they are small-scale changes, such as changes in allele frequencies in a population (over a few generations); also known as change at or below the species level. We have much empirical data to support this idea, such as dog-breeding, which is a great example for the genetic variation that is possible within one species. But with each genetic selection there is a loss of information, not a gain. The change from one genome to another implies a gain in information to that genome. Where do we see this?
What empirical data proves that one genome will become another? What is the closest ancestor to the woodpecker? I have yet to see an explanation of how the woodpecker would have evolved its tongue formation. Care to explain? (Woodpecker Tongue Formation: http://communicatescience.com/…/w…/uploads/2011/04/skull.jpg)
Multiple assumptions are involved in Carbon-14 dating, like the assumption that C-14 exists and always has existed in an “equilibrium” concentration in the carbon of living biological materials, meaning that the ratio of C-14 in the object is stable to that of Carbon-12. Carbon dating is a variety of radioactive dating which is applicable only to matter which was once living and presumed to be in equilibrium with the atmosphere, taking in carbon dioxide from the air for photosynthesis.
This means that Carbon-14 dating is assumption-based, and therefore, does not effectively classify as empirical observation.
Of course, there is a decay rate observed and radioactive carbon does exist, but we can take the evidence of what we do observe without assumptions.
DNA Refutes Evolution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ZcK…
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This video is an excerpt of a formal debate between Walter Brown, Ph.D, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M.I.T.) representing Creation Science versus two evolution professors representing evolutionary global species development from unintelligent & random chaos.
Dr. Walter Brown. Dr Brown received a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), where he was a National Science Foundation Fellow. He has taught college courses in physics, mathematics, and computer science. Brown is a retired Air Force full colonel, West Point graduate, and former Army Ranger and paratrooper. Assignments during his 21 years of military service included: Director of Benet Laboratories (a major research, development, and engineering facility); tenured associate professor at the U.S. Air Force Academy; and Chief of Science and Technology Studies at the Air War College. For much of his life Walt Brown was an evolutionist, but after years of study, he became convinced of the scientific validity of creation and a global flood. Since retiring from the military, Dr. Brown has been the Director of the Center for Scientific Creation (http://www.creationscience.com) and has worked full time in research, writing, and teaching on creation and the flood.
Opposing Dr Brown in this formal debate are two professors holding to Darwin’s theory of evolution. Dr Dick Richardson holds a Bachelor of Science from Texas A & M University in Plant & Soil Science, a Master of Science from North Carolina State University in Plant Genetics & a Ph.D from N.C. State in Genetics. Dr Richardson’s associate in this debate is Steve Bratteng. Mr. Bratteng holds a Bachelor of Science in Biology/ Biological Science from the University of Texas at Austin & a Master of Arts in Botany from the University of Texas at Austin. This debate took place in Cedar Park, Texas.
Sourcelink: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GSbR… (full debate)
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October 23, 2016 at 10:36 am
ONE CREATIONIST VS. TWO EVOLUTIONISTS DEBATE: INTELLIGENT CREATION VS. MINDLESS CHAOS, LUCK & CHANCE
CAnswersTV
Published on Jul 18, 2012
The Hydroplate Theory: An Overview:
New evidence shows that the earth has experienced a devastating, worldwide flood, whose waters violently burst forth from under earth’s crust. Standard “textbook” explanations for many of earth’s major features are scientifically flawed. We can now explain, using well-understood phenomena, how this cataclysmic event rapidly formed so many features. These and other mysteries listed below are best explained by an earthshaking event, far more catastrophic than almost anyone has imagined:
The Grand Canyon
Mid-Oceanic Ridge
Earth’s Major Components
Oceanic Trenches, Earthquakes, and the Ring of Fire
Magnetic Variations on the Ocean Floor
Submarine Canyons
Coal and Oil
Methane Hydrates
Ice Age
Frozen Mammoths
Major Mountain Ranges
Overthrusts
Volcanoes and Lava
Geothermal Heat
Strata and Layered Fossils
Limestone
Metamorphic Rock
Plateaus
The Moho and Black Smokers
Salt Domes
Jigsaw Fit of the Continents
Changing Axis Tilt
Comets
Asteroids and Meteoroids
Earth’s Radioactivity
Each appears to be a consequence of a sudden, unrepeatable event, a global flood whose waters erupted from interconnected, worldwide subterranean chambers with an energy release exceeding the explosion of trillions of hydrogen bombs. The hydroplate theory resolves all these mysteries.
But first, what is a hydroplate? Before the global flood, considerable water was under earth’s crust. Pressure increases in this subterranean water ruptured that crust, breaking it into plates. The escaping water flooded the earth. Because hydro means water, those crustal plates will be called hydroplates. Where they broke, how they moved, and hundreds of other details and evidence all consistent with the laws of physics constitute the hydroplate theory and explain to a great extent why the earth looks as it does.
Genesis 1:1
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October 23, 2016 at 11:41 am
A Thousand Years In A Day: The Mt. St. Helens Catastrophe – Dr. G. Thomas Sharp
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Uploaded on Sep 8, 2011
A Thousand Years in a Day: The Mt. St. Helens Catastrophe By Dr. G. Thomas Sharp Did you know that God can and has used natural processes in a supernatural way to impact the surface of the earth with thousands of years of change in only ONE day? What do you suppose happened when “all of the fountains of the great deep opened” at the beginning of the Flood of Noah? When you look at the canyons, mountains, rock layers and fossils of the earth, how do you explain them? The Bible has sound, reasonable explanations for these marvelous observations. Did you know that in 1980 an eleven-year process was begun at Mt. St. Helens that epitomized on a small scale the action and results of the Great Genesis Flood…that it was proven that God could take a catastrophe and do the geological work of thousands, even millions, of years in ONE day? In this program, G. Dr. Sharp will be your guide through the seconds, minutes and days the eye-opening action of catastrophic earth slides, tidal-like waves, mud flows and other residual effects of the history-making Mt. St. Helens Catastrophe. You will see, with your own eyes, the ability of catastrophic action do the work of thousands of years…IN JUST ONE DAY!
About Creation Truth’s Founder
G. Thomas Sharp has achieved national and international recognition as a Christian educator, religious leader, businessman and author. He is the founder and chairman of The Creation Truth Foundation Inc., and founder of the Institute of Biblical Worldview Studies (IBWS), both in Noble, Oklahoma and co-founder & President of the Museum of Earth History in Eureka Springs, AR. Doctor Sharp serves as the Editor In Chief for the Truth In Science curriculum, a Bible based science curriculum.
Since the 1960’s, Dr. Sharp has dedicated his life to understanding and penetration key problems facing the modern Christian society. As a result of the efforts in his research, he founded Creation Truth Foundation, Inc. in 1989. He now speaks internationally at churches, schools, universities and conventions. He has been a science educator since 1964, and has earned a Bachelor of Science degree from Purdue University, a masters of Science at the University of Oklahoma, and an Ph.D. from the South Florida Bible College and Seminary with an emphasis in the philosophy of religion and science. Dr. Sharp is a father of four children and grand father to ten grand children. He and his wife Diane reside in Oklahoma.
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October 26, 2016 at 5:38 am
Dr. Hugh Ross explains a number of critical physical requirements for God’s mass redemption of humanity:
Hugh Ross – Improbable Planet
General Han Solo
Published on Oct 24, 2016
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October 26, 2016 at 5:44 am
Hugh Ross – The Science of Genesis and the Anthropic Principle
General Han Solo
Published on Oct 24, 2016
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November 4, 2016 at 2:28 pm
Q&A: Is Evolution Falsifiable?
October 5th, 2016
By Dr. Fazale Rana
http://www.reasons.org/blogs/the-cells-design/q—a–is-evolution-falsifiable-2
From the above article:
In effect, methodological naturalism restricts the available explanations for the universe and phenomena within the universe such as the origin and history of life. Certain explanations are off the table, a priori. As a consequence, intelligent design/creationism cannot be part of the construct of science.
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November 4, 2016 at 5:08 pm
“Twinkling of the eye”.
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November 6, 2016 at 6:07 pm
ENCOUNTERS WITH THE UNEXPLAINED: THE SHROUD OF TURIN
END TIMES: DARKNESS DESCENDING
Published on Aug 20, 2016
In 1898, Secondo Pia was the first man to photograph the Shroud, the burial cloth believed to have covered the crucified body of Christ after being taken down from the cross. Pia made a startling discovery: his photography plate revealed the detailed image of a man. The shroud had created a photographic negative of the face and body of Christ. This video examines skepticism over the Shroud’s authenticity, debunking scientists who recently claimed that it could not be more than 600 years old. Those who believe trace it’s origins to a much earlier date. After the shroud was discovered in His tomb from the biblical account, the Shroud began it’s journey around the Mediterranean to Turin, Italy, where it has drawn millions of visitors from around the world for centuries. If you are a skeptic, this video will challenge your skepticism.
The Shroud of Turin shows the body of the crucified Christ. With the invention of photography, the image becomes a remarkable photograph. A black and white negative actually produces a positive print. The evidence confirms the image to be that of Christ at the very moment of resurrection.
The Shroud of Turin has long mystified the world, pitting faith against science. Is the ghostly image of a crucified man impressed upon an ancient burial cloth truly the face of Jesus? Jesus Christ, the Word who is called “the true Light”, reflects the ancient thought that the primeval Light was hidden within the Word of God Himself. At the moment of Christ’s resurrection, the Primeval Light (i.e. the Holy Spirit) burst forth from within and brought His body back to life, thus imprinting His image onto the cloth. The shroud’s face exhibit’s not only facial features, but the skull, sinus cavities and the roots of His teeth… all of this from an unearthly light that had to emanate from within.
The Shroud of Turin serves to prove that there is an afterlife for every man and woman to shun and avoid, for the man whose image is imprinted upon the cloth has testified and warned every human being that escape from this dark, horrible eternity can only be avoided through personally receiving Him through faith and being “born again.”
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November 7, 2016 at 2:49 pm
The Shroud of Turin is as phoney as the person who faked it in the first place.
(1) There is no paranormal activity on this planet
(2) This rules out the supernatural unless you can invent a supernatural Geiger Counter which the Ghost Busters were unable to perfect since the movie “Ghost Buster” from Hollywood.
(3) The Shroud was nothing more than an attempt to simulate the Burning Bush hoax by the Elders that persuaded Moses to “believe” and to come on board the God Concept the Elders embellished and fabricated with magical tricks which they told Moses to perform for Pharaoh with the staff that turned into a snake in Exodus. This persuasive hoax has been enumerated among countless similar hoaxes from that ancient time to the Benny Hin and other Evangelist’ hoaxes in modernity down through the ages.
(4) If the dogma specialists can’t persuade with mere words, they will try with elaborate tricks to try and fool you into believing the unbelievable. Why? Maybe they are just more stupid than the masses they try to fool.
(5) There is no “End Times”; there is only the end of one epoch giving way to another era and all the talk about the end of the world is nothing more than chatter about one era succumbing to another era…like the Renaissance overcoming the Dark Ages, and the Renaissance giving way to the industrial revolution etc. etc and etc.
Frank: Regardless of your attempt to try to cloak the eyes of the masses with blinders your day is already passion in front of you and you just can’t see it for the fog of farce you have lived a wasted life presenting. Today’s masses are already smarter than you could ever hope to be with your supernatural charlatanism nonsense and Quite Frank-ly…you day is over and the New Heaven and the New Earth is already here and yet you are still baked in the leaven of myth, magic, miracles and mayhem of misinformation.
You are to be pitied more than anything because no attempt to open your eyes will succeed, you are among the walking dead and will take your nonsense with you when that moment of time comes upon you and that without remedy. You are on your last legs.
Accept Jesus for the revolutionary hero, for the visionary hero he was and who put his life on the line trying to awaken a world replete with supernatural religious ritualistic charlatanism. The deceitful of a leadership gone mad with power-soaked brains about the falsehood and deceit just to satisfy the ego of men who knew nothing but death as a penalty instead of life as a reward.
OMG this is such a Christ Clear Comment it is difficult for me to understand how you can reject the logic thereof and the bible, if you read it without a supernatural skew will surely show you by the words of Jesus himself! If you only can drop your superstition……….Google superstition AND TIBET and see where you really are in the ditch.
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November 8, 2016 at 5:31 pm
Testimony from Dr. William Guy concerning whether the Shroud of Turin is a forgery:
The Most Comprehensive Present[at]ion on the Shroud on YouTube 3
William Guy
Published on Feb 28, 2016
Dr. William Guy discusses the Shroud of Turin. In part 3 he covers the physical properties, carbon dating, and contaminants of the linen cloth itself with regard to claims of authenticity
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November 20, 2016 at 5:08 pm
Refuting Textbook Arguments for Evolution
Northwest Creation Network
Published on Jul 5, 2016
Seminar by Thomas Kindell
Apologetics Symposium
Cedar Park Church, Bothell WA
June 1, 2016
This presentation exposes the flaws and fallacies of common textbook “evidences” for Darwinian evolution based on origin of life experiments, mutations coupled with natural selection, irreducibly complex biological systems, “vestigial” organs, anatomical homology, molecular homology, embryological recapitulation, and the fossil record. The presentation closes by examining known frauds that are still employed in current textbooks to “prove” Darwinian evolution is true.
About the Speaker:
Dr. Thomas Kindell was once an ardent believer in the “fact” of evolution. However, through his exposure to the scientific case for creation, he became a zealous creationist. He has received advanced training in scientific creationism through the Graduate School of the Institute for Creation Research in Santee, California. He has been privileged to study under several of the world’s most prominent creationist scientists. He also has studied Christian Apologetics and Biblical-Scientific Creationism at California Graduate School of Theology where he received his M.A. in Biblical Studies. He holds a Doctorate in Philosophy of Theology (major in philosophy of Biblical apologetics.) Dr. Kindell is the founder and president of Reasons for Faith Ministries (http://kindell.nwcreation.net/).
This seminar was recorded during our Apologetics Symposium at Cedar Park Church in Bothell Washington (http://www.cedarpark.org/). The NW Creation Network organizes numerous educational programs each year, which feature presentations by speakers, scientists, and authors who are dedicated to defending the Bible and the Christian worldview. These events are open to the public and free to attend.
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November 23, 2016 at 10:28 am
Can the Bible Explain the Origin of the Different “Races”?
Northwest Creation Network
Published on Jun 4, 2016
Seminar by Dr. Thomas Kindell
Woodin Valley Baptist Church, Bothell WA
June 2, 2016
Answers the question, “Where did Cain get his wife?” He explains from the Bible and science how all the ethnic types of humans descended from a literal Adam and Eve. Gives the Biblical answer to the scourge of racism.
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“All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.” (John 6:37)
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November 23, 2016 at 10:32 am
The Origin of Nations
Judiyah32
Published on Apr 10, 2012
This video shows which of today’s nations descend from Ham, Shem, and Japheth
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November 23, 2016 at 4:46 pm
Please Note Disclaimer:
“The following has no hours-long video by outside organizations or ministries but by poster whose Christ Clear commentary point of view is his own.”
Reason not science has excluded room for belief in a (supernatural) God; that is, a God of Intelligent Design. Please remember that the supernatural God and the Intelligent Designer God are not the same Father God that Jesus proclaimed. You are wasting your common sense breath if you think they are.
The Finely Tuned Features of the Universe of the uncanny and seemingly never-ending list of the just-perfect finely tuned parameters of the physical features of the Earth, the solar system, and the entire cosmos is just a star. This program is brought to you by God, maker of heaven and earth and other fine products! It seems to mirror just another convoluted creationist commercial on television.
The Motion FOR INTELLIGENT DESIGN:
Finely Tuned Parameters of the Universe by Science used by Creationists:
– the electron to proton ratio standard deviation of 1 to 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (37 0s)
– the 1-to-1 electron to proton ratio throughout the universe yields our electrically neutral universe
– the electron to proton mass ratio (1 to 1,836) perfect for forming molecules
– the electromagnetic and gravitational forces finely tuned for the stability of stars
– the gravitational and inertial mass equivalency
– the electromagnetic force constant perfect for holding electrons to nuclei
– the electromagnetic force in the right ratio to the nuclear force
– the strong force (which if changed by 1% would destroy all carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, and heavier elements)
– etc., etc., etc. (including the shocking apparent alignment of the universe with the orbit of the Earth)
The Whopping Physics Coincidence:
NewScientist reports about gravity and acceleration that, “a large chunk of modern physics is precariously balanced on a whopping coincidence” for, regarding gravitational and inertial mass, “these two masses are always numerically exactly the same. The consequences of this coincidence are profound…”
The Finely Tuned Parameters of the Solar System include:
– Our Sun is positioned far from the Milky Way’s center in a galactic goldilocks zone of low radiation
– Our Sun placed in an arm of the Milky Way puts it where we can discover a vast swath of the entire universe
– Earth’s orbit is nearly circular (eccentricity ~ 0.02) around the Sun providing a stability in a range of vital factors
– Earth’s orbit has a low inclination keeping it’s temperatures within a range permitting diverse ecosystems
– Earth’s axial tilt is within a range that helps to stabilize our planet’s climate
– the Moon’s mass helps stabilize the Earth’s tilt on its axis, which provides for the diversity of alternating seasons
– the Moon’s distance from the Earth provides tides to keep life thriving in our oceans, and thus, worldwide
– the Moon’s nearly circular orbit (eccentricity ~ 0.05) makes it’s influence extraordinarily reliable
– the Moon is 1/400th the size of the Sun, and at 1/400th its distance, enables educational perfect eclipses
– the Earth’s distance from the Sun provides for great quantities of life and climate-sustaining liquid water
– the Sun’s extraordinary stable output of the energy
– the Sun’s mass and size are just right for Earth’s biosystem
– the Sun’s luminosity and temperature are just right to provide for Earth’s extraordinary range of ecosystems
– the color of the Sun’s light from is tuned for maximum benefit for our plant life (photosynthesis)
– the Sun’s low “metallicity” prevents the destruction of life on Earth
– etc., etc., etc.
The Finely Tuned Earth includes:
– the Earth’s surface gravity strength prevents the atmosphere from rapidly losing water to space
– the Earth’s just-right ozone layer filters out ultraviolet radiation and helps mitigate temperature swings
– the Earth’s spin rate on its axis provides for a range of day and nightime temperatures to allow life to thrive
– the atmosphere’s composition (20% oxygen, etc.) provides for life’s high energy requirements
– if Earth’s oxygen content were higher, forest fires would worsen; at 30%-40% the atmosphere could ignite
– the atmosphere’s pressure enables our lungs to function and water to evaporate at an optimal rate to support life
– the atmosphere’s transparency to allow an optimal range of life-giving solar radiation to reach the surface
– the atmosphere’s capactity to hold water vaper provides for stable temperature and rainfall ranges
– efficient life-giving photosynthesis depends on quantum physics, as reported in the journal PNAS
– organisms do not metabolize lignin (component in soil) for otherwise most all plant life would be impossible - the water molecule’s astounding robustness results from finely balanced quantum effects. As reported by New Scientist, “Water’s life-giving properties exist on a knife-edge. It turns out that life as we know it relies on a fortuitous, but incredibly delicate, balance of quantum forces. … We are used to the idea that the cosmos’ physical constraints are fine-tuned for life. Now it seems water’s quantum forces can be added to this ‘just right’ list.”
– water is an unrivaled solvent; its low viscosity permits the tiniest blood vessels; its high specific heat stabilizes biosphere temperatures; its low thermal conductivity as a solid insulates frozen-over lakes and as a liquid its high conductivity lets organisms distribute heat; its an efficient lubricant; is only mildly reactive; has an anomalous (fish-saving) expansion when it freezes; its high vapor tension keeps moisture in the atmosphere; and it tastes great too!-
the phenomenally harmonious water cycle
– water permits the passage of the Sun’s life-giving radiation to depths of 500 meters
– the carbon atom’s astounding capabilities. As Cambridge astronomer Fred Hoyle wrote: “Some super-calculating intellect must have designed the properties of the carbon atom, otherwise the chance of my finding such an atom through the blind forces of nature would be utterly minuscule. A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question.”
– etc., etc., etc.
The Motion AGAINST INTELLIGENT DESIGN :
Finely tuning all the cosmos but not finely tuning humanity expressing a finely tuned love is truly a cosmic anomaly.
Only man could invent an Intelligent Designer named God as unspeakably heinous as himself; cowardly men who do cowardly deeds to each other on a regular, daily basis. There is nobody on earth more hated and more cursed, by both man and apparently the created Gods of Man, than thugs who use the strength of rifle bullets and other war weapons to slaughter innocent lives and torture children. Having no stomach for reasoned debate they take lives in the blink of “an eye for an eye idea” whose time of life on earth was worse than merely useless. (perpetuating old school violence instead of finely tuned love.)
The whims of marauding madmen claiming that their Intelligent Designer created Satan and Satan is to blame for mans’ demonic minds behaving like animals defending a territory they themselves never built, using perverted, sub-human stone age reasoning to destroy life in the name of a caricature concept they created and called an “Intelligent” Designer
And then claim that Intelligent Design created all life in the first place but only they, MEN OF THE INTELLIGENT DESIGNER GOD, have the right to end the lives for disobeying the rules that the men claiming to be acting on behalf of the creator, impose.
THE VOTE:
Now here is the question for the believer to ponder and maybe even postulate a reasonable response to without resorting to the “free will”, “sin” and “satan” concepts fabricated by Man to justify, not only his bizarre behaviour but his adamant proclamations humans are made in the Intelligent Designer’s image.
Creationists argue that fine tuning, etc., etc., etc. is so precise and so necessary and that the entire cosmos depends on it and it all points to an Intelligent Designer; i.e., God. If the fine tuning of an Intelligent Designer, God is necessary for existence, including very life itself; how then, is it not true that the intelligent Designer completely missed the mark for a section of the cosmos that is so out-of-sync with the rest of the finely tuned universe? Namely, Mankind and Mankind’s behaviour? Syrian war crime of bombing of hospitals, schools, people and children of Aleppo, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, the abortion denial of contraceptives conundrum, gun violence, executing police etc., etc. etc. ?
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December 21, 2016 at 9:19 am
Science and Miracles | Sir Colin Humphreys,PhD
Theology, Philosophy and Science
Published on Dec 19, 2016
Lecture by British physicist Colin Humphreys. Professor Humphreys is a Christian.
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January 8, 2017 at 7:19 am
The Beginning of the Universe, Physics and God | Stephen M. Barr, PhD
Theology, Philosophy and Science
Published on Jan 7, 2017
Scientist and Christian thinker Stephen Barr discusses modern physics, the beginning and creation. The purpose of this talk is to clarify the issues in a way accessible to non-experts in science, theology or philosophy. It will explain what physics knows about the beginning of the universe, some much-discussed physics speculations (such as “quantum creation of universes”), and what science may be learned in the future. It will also explain how various scientific ideas relate to traditional teaching on Creation.
[Links to more lectures by Stephen Barr are in the description.]
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January 8, 2017 at 10:50 am
There has never been room for God in the Human experience. Man made room when in the dawn of consciousness to create a supernatural entity to explain everything he did not understand or know. He began his invention of the Gods starting with The Food God, The Water God, the Necessary Gods for life….then as the minds opened and evolved man’s inventions grew and evolved and branched out beyond Earth Gods fulfilling his life needs, to the Design Gods that controlled the livelihood Gods: the Sun God, the Moon God the Planet Gods and then into the patterns, Astrology, in its broadest sense, is the search for purpose in the heavens.
So people at first invented the Mythological Gods and eventually as the mind evolved and broadened the Myth Gods morphed into Gods connected directly to mankind and presto the Theist God appeared. So men began to shrug off the Idols symbolizing the Food God such as the Golden Calf that infuriated Moses when the Lord was gong to slay the people (Ex 1:13) but lo and behold, 14, “The Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.”; idols of Diana. Diana was the goddess of the woodlands, of wild animals, and of hunting. She also acted as a fertility goddess, who helped women conceive and give birth to children. And so the God of Everything was invented to replace all the Myth Gods; thus, the latest Myth and Morph unto this present day.
NOW ABOUT FAITH:
“The atheist is exercising faith when he says that science will discover the naturalistic processes responsible for the remaining three items just as it had for the other seven. They may or may not. But to assume that they will despite having no evidence for this belief is blind faith. The basis for our judgments is evidence that exists today, not evidence that is hoped to exist in the future. If the current evidence shows that the God hypothesis is superior to the naturalistic hypothesis, then we are beholden to follow the evidence and admit that it at least shows it is possible that God exists, even while recognizing that our conclusions could change if the evidence changes.”
TWO THINGS many people do not know.
THE FALLACY OF FAITH!
1. All faith is blind;
2. Faith has nothing to do with you.
3. Very few Christians understand the nature of faith
4. Therefore it’s absolutely imperative that you understand the nature of faith.
5. We’re constantly being brainwashed into the idea that the more you are in the rat race, the more you rush around doing things for God the more you’re demonstrating your faith in God; diametrically opposed to the truth. The more you try to do for God the more you’re demonstrating, not your faith in God, but your faith in yourself.
6. Faith never made a man great.
7. Faith is simply that disposition that invokes the activity of a second party; it brings somebody, something, into action on your behalf.
Faith is like the clutch on a gear shift continental sports car. You could put your foot on the gas, rev the engine until every last window in the district is vibrating with the noise and the whole city lost in a cloud of dust. But if you don’t let the clutch out where will you be when you take your foot off the gas and the dust has settled? Exactly where you started! Because all the clutch does is relate the engine and the power under the hood to the wheels on the road. But the clutch doesn’t drive the car. Can you imagine a kid with his friend, open sports car, zooming down the road, nobody looking, 30, 50, 70, 80, 90, 100, 110 miles an hour, wind streaming through his hair and he turns to his friend and says man….man..he says, what a clutch! Well you’d say don’t be so stupid. You’d say Man…what an engine!. All the clutch is doing is letting the engine be an engine.
8. That’s why, never congratulate a man on his faith, that’s sheer stupidity.
9. All that faith does in terms of your relationship to Jesus Christ is to allow him to move redemptively into your experience and reconcile you to your true Humanity.
BEGINNINGS AND ENDS of THE UNIVERSE:
1. People view the universe through myopism of a gardener;
2. The gardener views the seed, plant, alive, sprout, grow, flower, bloom, die and harvest; the beginning and the end.
3. Universe is more than the seeds, the growth, the fruit, the veggie within
4. The Universe IS the Garden; it is where the seed, the fruit, the veggie and the Gardener, seed, plant, live, sprout, grow, flower, bloom, and end.
5. The Universe is the Essence, not part of the garden;
6. The Universe IS the Garden;
7. Only the parts of the garden, the stars, the seeds, form, begin and end;
8. The Universe does not begin and does not end.
9. The Garden, The cosmos has no beginning, no end;
10. Mankind believes in a conclusion; then, looks for the premise to prove it.
11. Religion believes in a Creation Conclusion and argues for the believed premise(s) to prove it; “…even while recognizing that our conclusions could change if the evidence (premises) changes. This proves my observation, “state the Conclusion and then look for the premise as evidence to prove it”
12. Science believes in a Big Bang Conclusion and argues for the believed premise(s) evidence to prove it.
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January 8, 2017 at 4:53 pm
Dr. Stephen Barr: Science and Faith, the Myth of Conflict
NapaInstitute1
Published on Sep 15, 2014
Dr. Barr addresses the supposed conflict between what science discovers and the tenets of the faith.
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January 8, 2017 at 4:57 pm
Breakout Session: Fr. Robert Spitzer, Dr. Stephen Barr
NapaInstitute1
Published on Sep 16, 2014
Fr. Spitzer and Dr. Barr speak about modern astrophysics and God in a breakout session at the Napa Institute.
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January 8, 2017 at 5:05 pm
Modern Physics and Ancient Faith by Stephen Barr 2010-02-26
Geneva Campus Ministry
Published on Feb 6, 2014
Prof. Barr will argue that the supposed conflict between science and religion has really been a conflict between scientific materialism and religion, and that the science vs. religion myth is based on an outdated view of scientific history and a skewed interpretation of what science has actually discovered. Barr will discuss five great discoveries of twentieth century science, arguing that they are more consonant with traditional Jewish and Christian understanding of the cosmos and of human beings than with materialist philosophy.
Presented by the Geneva Lecture Series on February 26, 2010.
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January 10, 2017 at 12:27 pm
So much for Determinism:
Does Quantum Physics Make it Easier to Believe in God? – Stephen M. Barr, Ph.D.
MysticalTheosis
Published on Jun 9, 2013
An article by Stephen M. Barr (professor of physics at the University of Delaware)
Article: https://www.bigquestionsonline.com/co…
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To disprove the Atheist dogmas, I encourage theists to focus on attacking the philosophy of materialism/physicalism.
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“The stream of knowledge is heading towards a non-mechanical reality; the Universe begins to look more like a great thought than like a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter… we ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter.”– Sir James Jeans
“I think that modern physics has definitely decided in favor of Plato. In fact the smallest units of matter are not physical objects in the ordinary sense; they are forms, ideas which can be expressed unambiguously only in mathematical language.”― Werner Heisenberg
“As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.”— Max Planck
“The doctrine that the world is made up of objects whose existence is independent of human consciousness turns out to be in conflict with quantum mechanics and with facts established by experiment.”– Bernard d’Espagnat
“Consciousness cannot be accounted for in physical terms. For consciousness is absolutely fundamental. It cannot be accounted for in terms of anything else.”- Erwin Schrödinger
“I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.”– Max Planck
“It seems to me immensely unlikely that mind is a mere by-product of matter. For if my mental processes are determined wholly by the motions of atoms in my brain I have no reason to suppose that my beliefs are true. They may be sound chemically, but that does not make them sound logically. And hence I have no reason for supposing my brain to be composed of atoms.”- J. B. S. Haldane
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